Re: Distributing software written by hostile upstream developers

2009-09-17 Thread Steve McIntyre
of reasonable guidelines which will help maintainers/ftpmaster/TC to decide without that? -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.st...@einval.com Welcome my son, welcome to the machine. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject

Re: Distributing software written by hostile upstream developers

2009-09-17 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 01:16:38PM +0200, Julien Cristau wrote: On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 00:12:18 +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: Thoughts? I'm very much in favour of something like this. Debian is better off without schilyware imo. That's an obvious example, but (as others have pointed out

Re: Distributing software written by hostile upstream developers

2009-09-17 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 09:47:10AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: On Thu, Sep 10 2009, Steve McIntyre wrote: Well, what happens if somebody wants to maintain software where there is a strong set of opinion that we don't want it? In this case, I'd like to delegate the power to the ftpmasters

Re: Distributing software written by hostile upstream developers

2009-09-10 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 11:00:53AM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: [Steve McIntyre] There has been some discussion in the last couple of years about whether or not Debian should distribute software that was written by developers that we consider to be hostile. In my opinion, the current

Distributing software written by hostile upstream developers

2009-09-09 Thread Steve McIntyre
to us. If we can't have a sensible relationship with the upstream developers, then I believe it would be better not to expose Debian and our users to the problems that will likely arise from packaging and distributing their software. Thoughts? -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK

Debian money

2009-09-09 Thread Steve McIntyre
funding? Thoughts? 6 Dunc tank 2? a Some people think this could be made to work, but I'm really not convinced at all. b We could offer bounties for specific work, maybe, but there would be a lot of discussion needed before we could set something up like this -- Steve

Re: Switching the default startup method

2009-08-24 Thread Steve McIntyre
regular sysv-rc and file-rc for years, why should we just stop now? Supported is rather a strong term for what we've had with file-rc; it's never worked well compared to sysv-rc. -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.st...@einval.com Armed with Valor: Centurion

Re: On cadence and collaboration

2009-08-05 Thread Steve McIntyre
on our mailing lists rather than diving in to feed flames in the arguments. Maybe some people think that's a bad thing. -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.st...@einval.com Is there anybody out there? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org

Re: On cadence and collaboration

2009-08-05 Thread Steve McIntyre
the control we need in terms of actually stabilising for release. A time-based freeze could mean for some teams that they'll have to stop work basically for months to a year. Exaggeration, -1. -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.st...@einval.com We don't need no education. We

Re: Debian redesign

2009-07-30 Thread Steve McIntyre
details... -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.st...@einval.com C++ ate my sanity -- Jon Rabone -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: Debian redesign

2009-07-30 Thread Steve McIntyre
; it doesn't have anything special, eye-catching like our current logo has. It's a FAIL. Thank you for your positive contribution, much appreciated. -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.st...@einval.com We don't need no education. We don't need no thought control

Re: Debian redesign

2009-07-30 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 11:52:43AM +0100, Mark Brown wrote: On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 09:19:51AM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: The new simplified swirl looks cleaner, and it would be nice to move to a free-er font. The example changes to the website made it look Might it be worth considering

Re: DAM and NEW queues processing

2009-06-25 Thread Steve McIntyre
such additional work. Why not let the new maintainers introduce themselves, then ? That sounds a very sensible idea, yes. -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.st...@einval.com We're the technical experts. We were hired so that management could ignore our recommendations

Re: DAM and NEW queues processing

2009-06-25 Thread Steve McIntyre
want, but we already have 2 questions in the pipeline with lawyers through SPI so it may take a while to get a response. -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.st...@einval.com Because heaters aren't purple! -- Catherine Pitt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project

Re: info about debian DVD update

2009-06-04 Thread Steve McIntyre
release. The 5.0.1 updates just contain the differences between 5.0.0 and 5.0.1. If you want to update from 4.0rX to 5.0.X then you'll need much more than that. See http://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#update-cd for more details. -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.st

Re: New Technical Committee Members

2009-01-12 Thread Steve McIntyre
, and the DPL still needs to approve it. We've discussed this and I'm entirely happy to accept the TC's recommendations for new members. Doubly so, as I personally recommended both! Until now, I just hadn't said so publically. Fixed. :-) -- Steve McIntyre, Debian Project Leader lea...@debian.org

Re: Results of the Lenny release GR

2009-01-11 Thread Steve McIntyre
this discussion right now, just after the first vote that has already delayed Lenny, is not going to help you or anybody. It *is* clear that a substantial majority of DDs want us to release Lenny soon rather than attempt to fix every last issue. Please drop it for now. -- Steve McIntyre, Debian

Re: transfering files between *.debian.org hosts (was: people.debian.org to move to ravel)

2008-08-31 Thread Steve McIntyre
large amounts of data as weasel between debian hosts. I don't rule out that it happens, I would just like to know if it's a daily routine. For reference, I do it multiple times daily from cron, to transfer files around for the daily CD builds. -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK

Open Invention Network

2008-07-02 Thread Steve McIntyre
://www.openinventionnetwork.com/ -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.[EMAIL PROTECTED] sladen I actually stayed in a hotel and arrived to find a post-it note stuck to the mini-bar saying Paul: This fridge and fittings are the correct way around and do

DPL teams survey: results on the way...

2008-06-02 Thread Steve McIntyre
findings to d-d-a in a week or so. Thanks, -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.[EMAIL PROTECTED] Since phone messaging became popular, the young generation has lost the ability to read or write anything that is longer than one hundred and sixty characters. -- Ignatios

Re: Openser 1.2 no longer on etch?

2008-06-02 Thread Steve McIntyre
the CD/DVD releases we did for etch, and they *all* had version 1.1.0-9etch1. Are you *sure* you didn't have backports.org or lenny in your sources.list? -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.[EMAIL PROTECTED] sladen I actually stayed in a hotel and arrived to find a post

Re: ISO DVD

2008-01-17 Thread Steve McIntyre
certo o tamanho desta ISO. http://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#small-dvd -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.[EMAIL PROTECTED] C++ ate my sanity -- Jon Rabone -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: linhdd concerns (was: Re: Updated Debian Maintainers Keyring)

2007-11-28 Thread Steve McIntyre
they review a package. #452804 -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.[EMAIL PROTECTED] Since phone messaging became popular, the young generation has lost the ability to read or write anything that is longer than one hundred and sixty characters. -- Ignatios Souvatzis

Re: Updated Debian Maintainers Keyring

2007-11-23 Thread Steve McIntyre
. -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.[EMAIL PROTECTED] C++ ate my sanity -- Jon Rabone signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Planet policy?

2007-08-04 Thread Steve McIntyre
Did we ever agree a policy about what's acceptable/reasonable for blog feeds linked from planet.d.o? I'm very tempted to disable Ian Murdock's Solaris propaganda, for example... Thoughts? -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.[EMAIL PROTECTED] You lock the door

Re: soc-ctte discussion at DebConf7 [was Re: Social committee proposal]

2007-06-26 Thread Steve McIntyre
to these decisions. I guess everyone implied that this would be left to the discretion of soc-ctte, hoping that they wouldn't do anything drastic. Yes, that was my understanding. -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.[EMAIL PROTECTED] We don't need no education. We don't

Re: Google SoC 2007 - we're in, sign up quickly!

2007-03-22 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 07:56:25AM +0100, Bastian Venthur wrote: Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña schrieb: On Thu, Mar 15, 2007 at 10:27:12PM +, Steve McIntyre wrote: If you'd like to mentor, you will need to register as such[2] and fill in your profile, checking the Debian box in the list

Re: Soc 2007: Debian CD Tester

2007-03-18 Thread Steve McIntyre
. -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.[EMAIL PROTECTED] Mature Sporty Personal More Innovation More Adult A Man in Dandism Powered Midship Specialty signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Soc 2007: Debian CD Tester

2007-03-18 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Sun, Mar 18, 2007 at 09:56:53PM +0100, Richard Hirner wrote: Hello, On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 17:12:51 + Steve McIntyre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there anything in particular you're looking for more info about? Although the Wiki page gives a clear overview, I think we would need a more

Re: Google SoC 2007 - we're in, sign up quickly!

2007-03-17 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 07:56:25AM +0100, Bastian Venthur wrote: Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña schrieb: On Thu, Mar 15, 2007 at 10:27:12PM +, Steve McIntyre wrote: If you'd like to mentor, you will need to register as such[2] and fill in your profile, checking the Debian box in the list

Re: Bits from the DPL: DSA and buildds and DAM, oh my!

2007-03-17 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 12:15:08PM +0100, Josip Rodin wrote: On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 12:53:52AM +, Steve McIntyre wrote: IMO setting up an RT system will not fundamentally solve any of this, but will at most make it more manageable. The only way to solve this is by having new blood

Re: Bits from the DPL: DSA and buildds and DAM, oh my!

2007-03-15 Thread Steve McIntyre
absolutely not touch. Yup, sounds eminently sensible. So, basically my question remains: why does it have to be so incredibly difficult to allow new members into these teams? Historical reasons as much as anything else. That's not an excuse, and things should be improving soon. -- Steve

Re: Google Summer of Code

2007-03-07 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Wed, Mar 07, 2007 at 08:14:37AM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: On Wed, Mar 07, 2007 at 01:40:45AM +, Steve McIntyre wrote: Things have opened now and I'm in the middle of the application for Debian. One thing they're asking for is a backup admin, so I guess you're it... :-) Sure

Re: Google Summer of Code

2007-03-06 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Tue, Feb 20, 2007 at 12:44:41AM +, Steve McIntyre wrote: On Sun, Feb 18, 2007 at 02:22:23PM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: On Fri, Feb 16, 2007 at 03:58:12PM +, Steve McIntyre wrote: Anyone want to volunteer to take the lead on the first couple of steps? I guess I'm ready to act

Re: Debian Tartan for Debconf7 ... progress

2007-03-03 Thread Steve McIntyre
for Debconf (if you miss that deadline, another batch can always be done of course, but that will incur another weaver's setup fee which seems to be somewhere between 300 500 GBP). I can't really afford it, but sod it. Count me in for a proper 8-yard kilt, same as you. -- Steve McIntyre

Re: Why is there only self-nomination?

2007-03-01 Thread Steve McIntyre
. -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.[EMAIL PROTECTED] This dress doesn't reverse. -- Alden Spiess signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Google Summer of Code

2007-02-19 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Sun, Feb 18, 2007 at 02:22:23PM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: On Fri, Feb 16, 2007 at 03:58:12PM +, Steve McIntyre wrote: Anyone want to volunteer to take the lead on the first couple of steps? I guess I'm ready to act as a project admin and (if needed) mentor again. I was interested

Re: Google Summer of Code

2007-02-16 Thread Steve McIntyre
-- Summer of Code work Anyone want to volunteer to take the lead on the first couple of steps? I guess I'm ready to act as a project admin and (if needed) mentor again. -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.[EMAIL PROTECTED] Into the distance, a ribbon of black Stretched

Re: Debian Weekly News - November 28th, 2006

2006-12-05 Thread Steve McIntyre
to do. This would start by rescinding the Vancouver proposal, and generally not conflating executive and legislative power. What on earth are you babbling about? -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.[EMAIL PROTECTED] I can't ever sleep on planes ... call it irrational

Re: How could we give away Debian CDs/DVDs for free?

2006-10-16 Thread Steve McIntyre
. -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.[EMAIL PROTECTED] Google-bait: http://www.debian.org/CD/free-linux-cd Debian does NOT ship free CDs. Please do NOT contact the mailing lists asking us to send them to you. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: How could we give away Debian CDs/DVDs for free?

2006-10-16 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 11:17:54AM +0200, gregor herrmann wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 11:11:49 +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: * Steve McIntyre ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [061016 11:09]: If people have to pay something for them (even something really cheap), then they're more likely to take an interest

Re: irc.debian.org

2006-05-02 Thread Steve McIntyre
this is a reason to favour a move to oftc. Ditto. -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.[EMAIL PROTECTED] The problem with defending the purity of the English language is that English is about as pure as a cribhouse whore. We don't just borrow words; on occasion, English has

irc.debian.org

2006-04-30 Thread Steve McIntyre
, oftc is also a sister org under the SPI umbrella. Thoughts? -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.[EMAIL PROTECTED] ...In the UNIX world, people tend to interpret `non-technical user' as meaning someone who's only ever written one device driver. -- Daniel Pead

Re: DVD Image

2006-03-06 Thread Steve McIntyre
not match the checksum and fail part way through the install. See http://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#small-dvd -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.[EMAIL PROTECTED] The problem with defending the purity of the English language is that English is about as pure as a cribhouse

Re: Honesty in Debian (was Re: Amendment to GR on GFDL, and the changes to the Social Contract

2006-02-11 Thread Steve McIntyre
to the users -- the other half of the Social Contract -- that they *are* an exception. Absolutely - I'd back up 100% a vote to add such a disclaimer... -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.[EMAIL PROTECTED] You raise the blade, you make the change... You re-arrange me

Re: DVD image version (r0a/r1)?

2006-01-10 Thread Steve McIntyre
-update-3.1r1-i386-2.iso.torrent ? Yes, they're correct. -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.[EMAIL PROTECTED] Is there anybody out there? signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: DVD image version (r0a/r1)?

2006-01-07 Thread Steve McIntyre
the difference, not the full ISOs. Or you can also download/use the update CDs - they will also cover what you need... -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.[EMAIL PROTECTED] Because heaters aren't purple! -- Catherine Pitt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Debian iso-dvd's

2005-10-24 Thread Steve McIntyre
wrong?? You're using a program to download the images that is not 64-bit clean, so is wrapping at 4GB. -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.[EMAIL PROTECTED] Armed with Valor: Centurion represents quality of Discipline, Honor, Integrity and Loyalty. Now you don't have

Re: Debian UK (was Re: What the DFSG really says about trademarks)

2005-09-06 Thread Steve McIntyre
through Not In Our Name-style tactics. d. You could grow up... -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.[EMAIL PROTECTED] Mature Sporty Personal More Innovation More Adult A Man in Dandism Powered Midship Specialty signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: What the DFSG really says about trademarks

2005-08-30 Thread Steve McIntyre
. *grin* -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.[EMAIL PROTECTED] Support the Campaign for Audiovisual Free Expression: http://www.eff.org/cafe/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: What the DFSG really says about trademarks

2005-08-30 Thread Steve McIntyre
as the truth. The barbecue mentioned has become an annual event hosted by me (Steve McIntyre) personally at my house in Cambridge each August. Attendees are normally a mix of UK DDs, UK Debian users and random geeks from the Cambridge area. This weekend past saw the fourth such event. It was never

Re: Problems on an ISO image

2005-08-01 Thread Steve McIntyre
an amd64 or Intel 64-bit Xeon processor, you'll need to download the (unofficial) amd64 ISO instead; see http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/sarge-amd64/ for that. -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.[EMAIL PROTECTED] Into the distance, a ribbon of black

Re: Debian Jigdo (non-us)

2005-06-21 Thread Steve McIntyre
/jigdo-area and http://mirror.ac.uk/mirror/ftp.fi.debian.org/debian-cd needs updating to cope. Please feel free to contact me off-list and I'll help you work it out. Steve (for the Debian CD team) -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.[EMAIL PROTECTED] Can't keep my

Re: About the broken jigdos and gluck's load

2004-10-22 Thread Steve McIntyre
. Disk performance falls through the floor as more people start using the same spindles, so we're much better off if we can get a dedicated machine or, failing that, a dedicated set of disks for the mirror and build space. -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.[EMAIL

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