Re: Debian Quiz game

2014-10-03 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Thu, October 2, 2014 11:45, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: It would be great if a team could magically form to maintain it as a Debian package. I'm Ccing people who already expressed interest in helping with this, but feel free to just join the fun! Maybe this fun Debian Quiz could also serve as

Re: Can I donate in bitcoin?

2014-08-27 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Wed, August 27, 2014 04:54, martin f krafft wrote: also sprach Russ Allbery r...@debian.org [2014-08-26 19:43 -0700]: I believe Debian's major expenses are Debconf, team meetings (mostly travel and possibly some lodging and food), and computing hardware. I would be surprised if Bitcoin

Re: Pro-ftpd 1.3.3a

2014-06-16 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
Hi Juan, On Mon, June 16, 2014 20:35, Juan Barrera wrote: My name is Juan Barrera. I am a security analyst at Trustwave. I am looking for information about whether or not Proftpd-1.3.3a is going continue receiving support. Visiting: https://www.debian.org/News/2014/20140424 says that

Re: Debian squeeze/LTS

2014-06-12 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
Hi René, On Thu, June 12, 2014 10:54, René Bleisch wrote: Hi, are there any news concerning the planned LTS of Squeeze? (How to get it and so on) I'm quite a bit frustated: * there were no more news since 26. April. * the standard support has ended by 31.May (no news about it ?!)

Re: 20140407 keyring report

2014-04-22 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Sun, April 20, 2014 06:12, Gunnar Wolf wrote: Kurt Roeckx dijo [Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 12:51:45AM +0200]: On Sat, Apr 19, 2014 at 09:41:40PM +, Clint Adams wrote: Upon request. Made with an unpackaged set of keyrings[0]. Thanks for the update. (...) So we seem to making some

Re: systemd bad press? score card?

2014-02-10 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Mon, February 10, 2014 18:26, Daniel Pocock wrote: http://www.itwire.com/opinion-and-analysis/open-sauce/63079-debian-init-system-vote-has-become-a-farce finishes off with the line And users are still expected to take this lot seriously. Not really objective journalism Even if objective

Re: link removal

2014-01-10 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
Hi Peter, On Fri, January 10, 2014 02:45, link master wrote: My name is Pete Crisaf and I’m getting in touch on behalf of our company www.dzineit.net .We noticed that you’ve linked to our website on your page with the text (new york web design) and am requesting that you remove the link.I’m

Re: Debian services and Debian infrastructure

2014-01-06 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Mon, January 6, 2014 11:38, Stephen Gran wrote: I don't think jumping straight to a solution that puts all of the responsibility for every idea for a service in Debian on DSA shoulders is either the only way to go or even a good way to go.  There are plenty of bad ideas that should be

Re: Need debian lenny source code

2013-12-13 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
Hi Venkatesh, On Fri, December 13, 2013 09:44, Venkatesh Pawar wrote: I am Venkatesh Pawar need a link for debian lenny os source code for some operation purpose. So can you please tell me from where should i download source code of debian lenny os. It will be great help if uou help me.

Re: Please update the DSA delegation

2013-12-05 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Thu, December 5, 2013 02:15, Ian Jackson wrote: I would go further and say that I think it would be better to do things differently. For a team which is functioning well, it would be helpful if the DPL delegated to the team the authority over its own composition, explicitly reserving the

Re: Please update the DSA delegation

2013-12-05 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Thu, December 5, 2013 11:46, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: This was discussed in https://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2013/05/msg00018.html. Main points are: * it facilitates the monitoring of the team manpower, which helps taking proactive actions before things get too difficult. * it

Re: Possibly moving Debian services to a CDN

2013-11-20 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Wed, November 20, 2013 19:03, anarcat wrote And saying that because there's proprietary firmware in your BIOS it's okay to offload all of Debian's infrastructure to a non-free CDN is okay seems to me to be a slippery slope. Nobody has talked about moving all of Debian's infrastructure.

Re: Possibly moving Debian services to a CDN

2013-10-16 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Wed, October 16, 2013 15:01, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: I do realize that most of the value of a CDN is not in its software parts. But I'm under the impression there is still quite a bit of software behind commercial CDN offerings. So my question is: would the CDN providers we're going to

Re: Paths into Debian

2013-09-24 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Mon, September 23, 2013 14:46, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: Did you tag them 'gift'? https://wiki.debian.org/qa.debian.org/GiftTag This may just be me, as it's very personal, and no offense intended at you, but I really detest the name 'gift' of that tag and that prevents me from using it. Tagging

Re: Authorizing minor expenses by DSA without prior DPL approval

2013-09-12 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Wed, August 28, 2013 18:12, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: ]] Lucas Nussbaum I like this idea of max outstanding of $300 instead of an explicit time limit. But I think that your proposal makes it possible for DSA to not get reimbursed if the DPL is grumpy and decides not to approve the expense. I

Re: Survey of new contributors -- results

2013-08-08 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Wed, August 7, 2013 21:52, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: 22/37 were sponsored as part of a team 10/37 had a friend or colleague sponsor them 5/37 were sponsored as part of debian-mentors Other things mentioned (once): - sponsored by the previous maintainer when adopting a package - sponsored by

Re: PaySwarm-based Debian donations

2013-06-18 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Tue, June 18, 2013 04:31, Martin Owens wrote: On Mon, 2013-06-17 at 19:03 -0500, Gunnar Wolf wrote: site requesting user's charity You mean user's involvement. You don't want users to be invited to participate in Debian. Debian isn't elitist and it shouldn't care that the tool being

Re: Debating difficult development issues in essay form

2013-05-10 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
Op donderdag 9 mei 2013 23:40:45 schreef Wouter Verhelst: I do agree that sometimes, mailinglists aren't the best possible medium to hold a discussion. However, I'm not convinced that your proposal is the best way to fix that. I think that with all its flaws, mailinglists (and/or usenet) are

Re: gravatar on bugs.debian.org - acceptable or not?

2013-03-16 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Fri, March 15, 2013 21:03, Simon Paillard wrote: Regardless avatar on/off, I really miss the CSS that used to have a grey background for email headers in BTS. You have an old version of the CSS cached. Use shift-F5 to solve this. Cheers, Thijs -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Copyright assignement for Debian tools?

2013-02-11 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Mon, February 11, 2013 14:54, Antonio Terceiro wrote: There are several cases where upstream explicitly puts Copyright 2013 The Foo Developers and similar statements. Are they invalid as well? If they are valid, wouldn't Copyright 2013 Debian Project have the similar (if not the same)

Re: mjg59's blog on planet.d.o

2012-10-30 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Tue, October 30, 2012 12:38, Jakub Wilk wrote: * Lars Wirzenius l...@liw.fi, 2012-10-30, 09:45: AFAIK Matthew Garrett hasn't been active and directly involved participant in the Debian development community for years. What is the reason for keeping his blog on planet.d.o? Matthew has been

Re: ditching the official use logo?

2012-10-08 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Mon, October 8, 2012 16:52, Paul Tagliamonte wrote: Right now, the way I understand it is that you can, in a DFSG and legal way, create a document with the Debian logo brand, and create a certificate that looks to be from Debian, and sell them as some sort of certification from Debian

Re: ditching the official use logo?

2012-10-08 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Mon, October 8, 2012 20:54, Paul Tagliamonte wrote: On Mon, Oct 08, 2012 at 08:48:40PM +0200, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote: On Mon, October 8, 2012 16:52, Paul Tagliamonte wrote: Right now, the way I understand it is that you can, in a DFSG and legal way, create a document with the Debian logo

Re: ditching the official use logo?

2012-10-01 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Mon, October 1, 2012 12:27, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: I haven't touched (nor looked into) the official logo. My impression is that that that logo is massively underused and basically unknown to most of our public out there. My personal take on it is that we should simply ditch it, focusing

Re: trademark policy draft

2012-08-14 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Tue, August 14, 2012 16:51, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: I agree with this. In dealing with lawyers on behalf of Debian, I've quickly learned that there are almost never 100% safe or 100% risky positions. It is *always* a cost/benefit/risk analysis. You ask the experts to evaluate the risks of

Re: trademark policy draft

2012-08-06 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Wed, August 1, 2012 18:54, Russ Allbery wrote: Lars Wirzenius l...@liw.fi writes: I'll leave the discussion with this counter suggestion: change the trademark policy to say: We call ourselves the Debian project. You can use our name as long as it doesn't make reasonable people

Re: RFC - Changing current policy of debian.net entries

2012-06-25 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Fri, June 22, 2012 23:01, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote: There is nothing carved into stone yet! I just want to hear your comments on this. The key point is that lay users will not understand the difference between debian.net and debian.org, and we should not require that they do. The purpose of

Re: Claiming the debian account on GitHub ? (was: Re: Packaging on GitHub ?)

2012-06-14 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Thu, June 14, 2012 16:56, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 09:31:39AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: I have not added links to their competitors, as I think that it would be bad taste, but yes, I invite every developer to consider Free alternatives such as Gitorious or

Re: revenue sharing agreement with DuckDuckGo

2012-03-29 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Thu, March 29, 2012 04:27, Paul Wise wrote: Probably you missed the part of the email that says we should add t=debian by default to every new DDG search URL? I would suggest that it should be up to the users what t= should be set to when sending search requests to DDG, not Debian. I'm

Re: Report from DSA Team Sprint in Oslo

2012-03-21 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Tue, March 20, 2012 09:06, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: Shouldn't the various teams handling the group take care of managing them? Do they currently fail at that? I think we can say that yes, they generally fail at asking for people to be removed from groups. I'm still a member of webwml even

Re: Report from DSA Team Sprint in Oslo

2012-03-21 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Wed, March 21, 2012 13:16, Clint Adams wrote: On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 10:07:30AM +0100, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote: So I would advise to only make an effort to 'clean up' groups that have sufficiently 'dangerous' consequences attached to them. Then logically it would follow that the ones

Re: Security guidelines for Debian people

2011-11-05 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Thu, November 3, 2011 18:44, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: On Thu, 03 Nov 2011, Jakub Wilk wrote: * Lars Wirzenius l...@liw.fi, 2011-10-30, 17:33: Personally, I think some guidelines for DD's about securing their personal machines where their private keys are located would be a good

Re: Squirrelmail package availability question

2011-01-20 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
Hi Douglas, On Thursday 20 January 2011 16:45:50 g...@ccil.org wrote: I'm curious why only eleven Squirrelmail plug-ins seem to be available as Debian packages: http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=squirrelmail Specifically, I don't see that the Unsafe Image Rules plug-in is available:

Re: Debian decides to adopt time-based release freezes

2009-07-29 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Wed, July 29, 2009 14:24, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl wrote: If you don't like that, don't shoot the messenger, because they might get sick of being shooten at at every occasion; thanks. I think an important critic in this thread is the way the message was brought: DD's like myself are

Re: Linux System Engineer (100%) in Zurich

2008-11-26 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Wed, November 26, 2008 11:12, martin f krafft wrote: You may be 70 and capable to do a job which required me to invest 2 years into you, I'd be with you if the ad required a maximum age that was actually somewhere close to the pension age. Your example does not compare with the arbitrary age

Re: DEP1: Non Maintainer Uploads (final call for review)

2008-08-24 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Friday 22 August 2008 15:49, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: Conclusion: we need a way to version stable/testing uploads that avoids this. While I'm not convinced that it's a pressing issue that needs resolving, if people badly want it I'll use the new system. I think that instead, we should use

Re: DEP1: Non Maintainer Uploads (final call for review)

2008-08-21 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Thu, August 21, 2008 10:33, Steve Langasek wrote: On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 01:33:16PM +0200, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote: But perhaps we need another mechanism to signal this. Consecutive uploads to the same distribution should not cause previously present version entries to disappear from

Re: DEP1: Non Maintainer Uploads (final call for review)

2008-08-21 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Wed, August 20, 2008 14:14, Raphael Hertzog wrote: Say stable and testing have 1.0-1. Sid has 1.0-2. stable-security has 1.0-1+etch1 The maintainer wants to upload something to t-p-u. If we had a codename that sorted before etch we would be screwed. I don't think we're screwed, rather that

Re: DEP1: Non Maintainer Uploads (final call for review)

2008-08-20 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Wednesday 20 August 2008 10:06, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: On 20/08/08 at 09:38 +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: On Tue, 19 Aug 2008, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote: The past weeks I had several encounters with the situation that a maintainer completely overlooked and NMU and uploaded a newer version

Re: DEP1: Non Maintainer Uploads (final call for review)

2008-08-19 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
Hi, Sorry for breaking the thread and chiming in late, I was until recently not aware of this thread and not subscribed to debian-project. I hope my comments can still be considered. The version must be the version of the last upload, plus +nmuX, This special versioning is needed to

Re: When Debian 4.1 will arrive... will anyone care?

2007-04-20 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Fri, 2007-04-20 at 19:43 +1000, Craig Sanders wrote: 1. why is this allegedly a 'benefit'? what's so special about libraries? why is a new libc6 or libssl etc more scary than a new apache or php etc? When using a backports package, the breakage is confined to that package. When pulling in

Re: Why is there only self-nomination? [Re: Expulsion process: Sven Luther]

2007-03-02 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Thu, 2007-03-01 at 22:39 +0100, Luk Claes wrote: Personally, I think the idea of a DD having to ack his nomination, though only after being nominated by some (Q?) fellow DDs would be better than a plain self-nomination. What do others think? What would be better about it? I haven't seen

Re: DWN

2006-10-16 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Sun, 2006-10-15 at 20:18 -0400, Hubert Chan wrote: I also appreciated the package summaries at the bottom of DWN. (e.g. these are new packages in the archive this week, these packages have been orphaned, etc). Is there some other easy way to find that information? They are automatically

Re: Filibustering general resolutions

2006-09-19 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Tue, 2006-09-19 at 10:09 -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: The project should decide how it wants to handle filibustering, if it feels like doing anything about it, of course. But now, any GR has a veto contingent of only 6 developers. How about we see how to solve that when it

Re: Packages awaiting proposed-updates moderation

2006-08-02 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Wed, 2006-08-02 at 10:50 +0200, Loïc Minier wrote: I don't quite understand the various steps that a package traverses when uploaded to SPU. Is some document explaining that? In short, I would just like to understand the number of steps, the human-triggered transitions, and the public

Re: package ownership in Debian

2006-07-29 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Sat, 2006-07-29 at 08:48 +0200, Martin Schulze wrote: There's a nother problem with team maintained packages. The Security Team has to work on packages that are team-maintained in sid every once in a while. Often we want to get in touch with the maintainer privately before disclosure or

Re: Constitutional Amendment GR: Handling assets for the project

2006-07-24 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Sun, 2006-07-23 at 23:47 -0400, Joe Smith wrote: That is true. However this ammendment substancially changes the section that talks about SPI, so it would be reasonable to have SPI's board look at it if they so desire. At best they could find some text that ought to be tweeked, and at

Re: Call for a new DPL mediation ... This will be the only thread i will reply to in the next time about this issue.

2006-06-20 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Mon, 2006-06-19 at 23:32 -0500, Ean Schuessler wrote: Social politics creeping into Debian is one of the greater mortal dangers that we face. I surely hope not. Your mail suggests that someone who has severe social problems but is technically competent is per definition fit as a developer.

Re: Donations

2006-06-10 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
Hello Wouter, On Sat, 2006-06-10 at 12:45 +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: Perhaps a formulation like Since Debian has no authority to hold money or property, any monetary donations for the Debian Project must be made to an organization that has been vetted by the DPL to be

Re: Donations

2006-06-10 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Sat, 2006-06-10 at 18:51 +0100, David Pashley wrote: Presumably because transfering money between countries involves non-neglegable cost, where as transfer of ownership of hardware doesn't[0]. I understand that - my point is that I don't see a clear reason to *disallow* other of such vetted

Re: Shouldn't we have more ftp masters ?

2006-06-10 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Wed, 2006-05-31 at 15:10 +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: If you can't think of anything useful to do, you might like to look at http://ftp-master.debian.org/unmet-deps/ for a bunch of ftp-masterish problems that no one else is looking at much these days. Might be a dumb question, but isn't

Re: Using the Debian open use logo to distinguish DFSG-compatible licenses

2006-05-19 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Thu, 2006-05-18 at 12:34 -0400, Evan Prodromou wrote: So: if there's a public statement by Debian or debian-legal on a license (like http://people.debian.org/~evan/ccsummary is now), would it be misleading for an organization to point to that statement? Especially if it was clear that the

Re: irc.debian.org

2006-05-06 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Sat, 2006-05-06 at 13:09 +0100, Simon Huggins wrote: Since Debian doesn't donate any money to Freenode, I think that the question of donation spending is not relevant to what network Debian should choose as its default. By pointing irc.d.o at freenode, it says Debian supports

Re: irc.debian.org

2006-05-03 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Sun, 2006-04-30 at 19:34 +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: I've heard it suggested by a variety of people that we should move the official irc.debian.org alias away from freenode to oftc. I can see that more and more of my own Debian IRC discussions are on oftc, to the extent that I'm

Re: Reforming the NM process

2006-04-13 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Wed, 2006-04-12 at 21:33 +0200, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote: Michael Banck [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] I am not sure 6 months of sustained contributions is really necessary, I think several months or sustained contributions are alright, where both measures are up for interpretation

Re: Reforming the NM process

2006-04-13 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Thu, 2006-04-13 at 08:39 +0200, Benjamin Mesing wrote: like your studies (beeing in a computer science PhD/MSC helps), Well this might be interesting for the Debian project, but applicants might not want this to become public knowledge. Please do not assume, that this is for any

Re: Reforming the NM process

2006-04-11 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
Hey Marc, Thanks for this initiative; I'd just decided to not get involved in the threads on -newmaint anymore because even though I feel strongly about the issue, the threads were just a repeat of themselves. However, your mail seems to be different, in that it comes from someone actually

Re: About expulsion requests

2006-03-19 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Sun, 2006-03-19 at 13:32 +0100, Harald Geyer wrote: I don't want future employers to be able to google about my bugs. http://bugs.debian.org/robots.txt Thijs :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Re: uol.com.br and petsupermarket

2006-03-14 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Mon, 2006-03-13 at 22:46 -0300, Guilherme de S. Pastore wrote: You have dropped a nuclear bomb to kill a cockroach, and the cockroach is still alive. I consider this a bit of a hyperbole. Appearently you can still read and post to the lists, albeit through another account. It might be

Re: Hi, request to remove spammed links from http://lists.debian.org/

2006-01-21 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
Hello Koen, This is a request to remove spam from http://lists.debian.org/debian-l10n-portuguese/2002/01/msg00026.html. My reason for requesting the removal of this page is that it is the most powerful link (on google) for bethedealer.com, a poker website that spams alot. Koen Every message

Re: Stable security support

2005-12-21 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Wed, 2005-12-21 at 12:08 +0100, Adrian von Bidder wrote: On Tuesday 20 December 2005 19.33, Anthony Towns wrote: ... it's worth considering a GR ... I really liked your analysis up to that point. I can't see any reason why we would need a GR here. I think it's an interesting approach.

Re: Complaint about #debian operator

2005-12-12 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Mon, 2005-12-12 at 13:41 +0100, martin f krafft wrote: But your post makes it all the more clear that *a lot* of Debian people need to get the facts straight, and that a Debian vs. Ubuntu comparison on #debian is definitely not out of place. My biggest surprise whas that the channel