Re: [BTB] Asking vs enforcing (was: [Summary] Discourse for Debian)

2020-04-17 Thread Pierre-Elliott Bécue
Some private discussion with Thomas made me understand why he felt ill-at-ease with my email, and I do think it requires a clarification, as I actually screwed up my phrasing. I wrote Le jeudi 16 avril 2020 à 22:58:08+0200, Pierre-Elliott Bécue a écrit¬: > As you seem perfectly aware of,

Re: [BTB] Asking vs enforcing (was: [Summary] Discourse for Debian)

2020-04-17 Thread tomas
On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 08:37:48AM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: Scott, I think we both agree that the reaction to the apology was unnecessarily harsh, but this: > I feel like you are intentionally twisting my words, is not helping. > but I

Re: [BTB] Asking vs enforcing (was: [Summary] Discourse for Debian)

2020-04-17 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Friday, April 17, 2020 5:07:04 AM EDT Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote: > Le jeudi 16 avril 2020 à 18:39:06-0400, Scott Kitterman a écrit : > > When you say you are acting "in the name of the Community Team", you don't > > get to claim you're just like everyone else. I agree that any project > >

Re: [BTB] Asking vs enforcing (was: [Summary] Discourse for Debian)

2020-04-17 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 11:47:36AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de a écrit : > > - If someone obviously apologizes in public, by all means, >take his/her word for it. Yeah, people lie sometimes (I >know *I* do), but don't assume a lie unless you have >strong evidence for it Hi Tomás I

Re: [BTB] Asking vs enforcing (was: [Summary] Discourse for Debian)

2020-04-17 Thread Pierre-Elliott Bécue
Le vendredi 17 avril 2020 à 11:47:36+0200, to...@tuxteam.de a écrit : > > Indeed, because it's our job to remind the CoC and try to have it > > respected. And it's regarding this job that I intervened. I'm happy > > that we agree on this and therefore don't really understand how you > > could have

Re: [BTB] Asking vs enforcing (was: [Summary] Discourse for Debian)

2020-04-17 Thread tomas
On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 11:07:04AM +0200, Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote: [...] > As said, the weight I'm giving to my act is perfectly in the scope of > our delegation: we will act upon this should the matter persist. I have no qualms with you intervening here. I think before you intervended

Re: [BTB] Asking vs enforcing (was: [Summary] Discourse for Debian)

2020-04-17 Thread Pierre-Elliott Bécue
Le jeudi 16 avril 2020 à 18:39:06-0400, Scott Kitterman a écrit : > When you say you are acting "in the name of the Community Team", you don't > get > to claim you're just like everyone else. I agree that any project member (or > list participant for that matter) can and should take steps to

Re: [BTB] Asking vs enforcing (was: [Summary] Discourse for Debian)

2020-04-16 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, April 16, 2020 6:22:32 PM EDT Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote: > Le 16 avril 2020 23:17:46 GMT+02:00, Scott Kitterman a écrit : > >On Thursday, April 16, 2020 4:58:08 PM EDT Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote: > >... > > > >> Hi, > >> > >> I'm contacting you both publicly (via debian-project@)

[BTB] Asking vs enforcing (was: [Summary] Discourse for Debian)

2020-04-16 Thread Pierre-Elliott Bécue
Le 16 avril 2020 23:17:46 GMT+02:00, Scott Kitterman a écrit : >On Thursday, April 16, 2020 4:58:08 PM EDT Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote: >... >> Hi, >> >> I'm contacting you both publicly (via debian-project@) and privately >(on >> your GMail address) in the name of the Community Team following