Re: DCC (Debian Confusion Core) trademark negotiation status

2005-11-01 Thread Nathanael Nerode
posted mailed Cc:ed to dcca-discuss, since that's who needs to change this FAQ. Anthony Towns wrote: On Mon, Oct 17, 2005 at 05:01:06PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: snip Look at the www.dccalliance.org website: They need to be asked to change their FAQ to remove more trademark infringements.

Re: DCC (Debian Confusion Core) trademark negotiation status

2005-11-01 Thread John Hasler
They need to be asked to change their FAQ to remove more trademark infringements. Careful. While I agree that all the changes you suggest are desireable, I think that most are nominative and so do not infringe the trademark. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Elmwood, WI USA -- To

Re: DCC (Debian Confusion Core) trademark negotiation status

2005-11-01 Thread Nathanael Nerode
John Hasler wrote: They need to be asked to change their FAQ to remove more trademark infringements. Careful. While I agree that all the changes you suggest are desireable, I think that most are nominative and so do not infringe the trademark. Well, the ones I mentioned later, perhaps.

Re: DCC (Debian Confusion Core) trademark negotiation status

2005-10-23 Thread Philip Hands
Anthony Towns wrote: On Mon, Oct 17, 2005 at 05:01:06PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: Bart Schuller writes (Re: DCC (Debian Confusion Core) trademark negotiation status): http://ianmurdock.com/?p=274 This is some kind of insulting joke. Glad I'm not the only one that thinks that. I wonder

Re: DCC (Debian Confusion Core) trademark negotiation status

2005-10-23 Thread Florian Weimer
* Philip Hands: Also, I was under the impression that recursive acronyms needed to be witty, or at least close to being a pronounceable word, to count. I suppose one could try pronouncing DCC as Dick to make it qualify ;-) But it is, maybe unintentionally. DCC Alliance sounds like a closed

Re: DCC (Debian Confusion Core) trademark negotiation status

2005-10-23 Thread Florian Weimer
* Anthony Towns: Look at the www.dccalliance.org website: You missed The initial release of the Debian Common Core, expected in the September time frame, will be based on Debian 3.1 (Sarge) and certified to LSB. from the rather prominent Press link. Unfortunately, It's still there. Maybe

Re: DCC (Debian Confusion Core) trademark negotiation status

2005-10-23 Thread Mark Brown
On Sun, Oct 23, 2005 at 10:16:42PM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: Unfortunately, It's still there. Maybe the lack of updates indicates that the project is already dead, or something like that. Given their business model (which does neither promote business nor free software), this wouldn't be

Re: DCC (Debian Confusion Core) trademark negotiation status

2005-10-20 Thread Anthony Towns
On Mon, Oct 17, 2005 at 05:01:06PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: This is some kind of insulting joke. There's been two articles on newsforge about this now, both by David Graham, who's the non-Debian guy on the SPI board (AIUI); the first, summarising mails on this list:

Re: DCC (Debian Confusion Core) trademark negotiation status

2005-10-18 Thread Anthony Towns
On Mon, Oct 17, 2005 at 05:01:06PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: Bart Schuller writes (Re: DCC (Debian Confusion Core) trademark negotiation status): http://ianmurdock.com/?p=274 This is some kind of insulting joke. Glad I'm not the only one that thinks that. Look at the www.dccalliance.org

DCC (Debian Confusion Core) trademark negotiation status

2005-10-17 Thread Ian Jackson
Don Armstrong writes (Delegation for trademark negotiatons with the DCCA): Branden Robinson (Debian Project Leader) has delegated to me the authority to make a decision regarding the use of the Debian trademark by the (as currently named) Debian Core Consortium Alliance. [...] I'm sorry to

Re: DCC (Debian Confusion Core) trademark negotiation status

2005-10-17 Thread Bart Schuller
On Mon, Oct 17, 2005 at 12:22:59PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: It is time for us to stop pussyfooting around. Asking DCCA nicely hasn't resulted in them changing their name voluntarily. http://ianmurdock.com/?p=274 They have, just maybe not in email. Or loud enough. -- Bart. -- To

Re: DCC (Debian Confusion Core) trademark negotiation status

2005-10-17 Thread Ian Jackson
Bart Schuller writes (Re: DCC (Debian Confusion Core) trademark negotiation status): http://ianmurdock.com/?p=274 This is some kind of insulting joke. Look at the www.dccalliance.org website: * `common, standards-based core for Debian-based Linux distributions' (including Debian, one might

Re: DCC (Debian Confusion Core) trademark negotiation status

2005-10-17 Thread Siward de Groot
On Monday 17 October 2005 13:22, Ian Jackson wrote: | PS: Don's message that I quote above was posted to debian-private but ... | The alternative, to paraphrase Don's words, seems silly. That sounds like you can't draw a straight line, Ian. What's wrong with Stick to what you agreed to. ? If a

Re: [Spi-trademark] Re: DCC (Debian Confusion Core) trademark negotiation status

2005-10-17 Thread MJ Ray
Ian Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [...] Perhaps Debian should revoke their permission to use the Debian Open Use logo. Non-free though the Open Use Logo licence is, it has no revocation or termination clause (unlike the Official Use which they don't seem to be using?). You may be able to find a way