Re: For those who care about stable updates

2006-03-09 Thread Sven Mueller
Wouter Verhelst wrote on 09/03/2006 19:28: > [...] saying > that James is The Problem(TM) here sounds like overreaction to me. It might be. > Though I'll acknowledge that there is a problem if James is slow in > response on one of the many hats he's wearing, I urge you to respect him > for the hu

Re: For those who care about stable updates

2006-03-09 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Thu, Mar 09, 2006 at 02:59:37PM +, Thaddeus H. Black wrote: > Branden, this is outrageous. It has gone too far. The > Project has discussed the matter for years. If the > consensus is not that James does useful, steady work but I think James does useful, steady work, yes. I also think th

Re: For those who care about stable updates

2006-03-09 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Thu, Mar 09, 2006 at 11:10:10AM -0500, Clint Adams wrote: > That way the mob can make well-thought-out, dispassionate, logical > decisions about whom to exclude. After a flamewar? Allow me to 'hmm' on that one ;-) -- Fun will now commence -- Seven Of Nine, "Ashes to Ashes", stardate 53679.4

Re: For those who care about stable updates

2006-03-09 Thread Anthony Towns
On Thu, Mar 09, 2006 at 02:59:37PM +, Thaddeus H. Black wrote: > James: [...] I > grieve at the harm you have done Debian in the evident > blindness of your pride. Your formidable enmity I may > earn today. If so, this in itself is a regrettable and > serious matter, but so be it. Now please

Re: For those who care about stable updates

2006-03-09 Thread Amaya
Hi Marga, I tend to agree with you. Let's calm down. Margarita Manterola wrote: > For the next time, it would be better if before asking the DPL to > relieve a fellow developer from his duties and making such a big plea > as you've made, you'd consider hearing all the different sides of the > sto

Re: For those who care about stable updates

2006-03-09 Thread Margarita Manterola
On 3/9/06, Thaddeus H. Black <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > but I want Joey not James. Like you, James has > invested thousands of hours in Debian, but Joey's own > thousands count no less. Thaddeus, I think that you've made a terrible mistake with the mail you've sent. You've reacted with anger,

Re: For those who care about stable updates

2006-03-09 Thread Clint Adams
> If you make James be lynched by the mob, I will go as well. All the people who think it's appropriate to blackmail the project with full or partial withdrawal of their services should probably start listing in great detail those contributions which we would be missing if they actually followed t

Re: For those who care about stable updates

2006-03-09 Thread Michael Banck
On Thu, Mar 09, 2006 at 02:59:37PM +, Thaddeus H. Black wrote: > Martin Schulze wrote: > > I'm sorry to announce this but you'll have to find a > > new person who works on updating Debian stable and who > > is willing to cope with black holes and ftpmasters. > > > > I'm sick of being left in t

Re: For those who care about stable updates

2006-03-09 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Thu, 2006-03-09 at 14:59 +, Thaddeus H. Black wrote: > The time has come for the peasants to bear up the hill > on which James is king the message: James, your service > is recognized, but enough is enough. Have you considered, before sending this, that you might have only heard one side

Re: For those who care about stable updates

2006-03-09 Thread Thaddeus H. Black
Martin Schulze wrote: > I'm sorry to announce this but you'll have to find a > new person who works on updating Debian stable and who > is willing to cope with black holes and ftpmasters. > > I'm sick of being left in the void. I'm sick of > ftpmasters not answering mails from the stable release