Hello,
On Fri 04 Jan 2019 at 05:29pm GMT, Ulrike Uhlig wrote:
>> Exactly. I understand Ulrike's practical concerns but do not consider
>> them to outweigh the need to avoid permanency. Even writing "possible
>> CoC violation" could hurt someone twenty years down the line.
>
> Ack. I have no
Hello,
On Fri 04 Jan 2019 at 03:03pm GMT, Ian Jackson wrote:
> Years later someone who did some bad things when they were much
> younger might reasonably come to us and say "can you please redact
> that unfortunate incident from your public web page - it's ancient
> history now". We should be
Hi Sean!
Sean Whitton:
> Hello Ulrike,
>
> On Thu 03 Jan 2019 at 06:03pm GMT, Ulrike Uhlig wrote:
>
>>> Yes, let's avoid this.
>>
>> As currently phrased, if people are unsure, they should contact the
>> planet administrator's team. I think this should solve such concerns.
>
> I'm afraid I
Ulrike Uhlig writes ("Re: Planet Debian revisions"):
> Please, no. A commit message ensures that everybody is aware of the
> removal reason, including planet admins. Resorting to email? I don't
> think emails are encoded in the feeds and we cannot reasonably expect
> peo
Hello Ulrike,
On Thu 03 Jan 2019 at 06:03pm GMT, Ulrike Uhlig wrote:
>> Yes, let's avoid this.
>
> As currently phrased, if people are unsure, they should contact the
> planet administrator's team. I think this should solve such concerns.
I'm afraid I don't follow. I wanted to keep details out
Hi!
Roberto C. Sánchez:
> On Wed, Jan 02, 2019 at 05:39:58PM +0200, Jonathan Carter wrote:
>>
>> On #6 I was tempted to add "When a blog is removed, the committer should
>> add a comment listing the posts that resulted in it being removed", but
>> not sure if that's overloading it a bit too much.
Hi,
Sean Whitton:
> Hello,
>
> On Thu 03 Jan 2019 at 10:19am -0500, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Jan 02, 2019 at 05:39:58PM +0200, Jonathan Carter wrote:
>>>
>>> On #6 I was tempted to add "When a blog is removed, the committer should
>>> add a comment listing the posts that resulted
On Thu, Jan 03, 2019 at 05:50:03PM +0100, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
> On 15271 March 1977, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
>
> > > And I sometimes remove blogs for them just going 5xx. A commit msg
> > > is fine.
> > I still think an email to the author would be a good thing in that case.
> > I have had
On 15271 March 1977, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
And I sometimes remove blogs for them just going 5xx. A commit
msg is fine.
I still think an email to the author would be a good thing in
that case. I have had parts of my site stop functioning and
known of it for some time. An email from
Quoting Roberto C. Sánchez (2019-01-03 16:33:51)
> I have built up quite a backlog of email, so I did not see that the
> discussion had effectively concluded when I wrote my message.
>
> On Thu, Jan 03, 2019 at 04:25:14PM +0100, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
> > On 15271 March 1977, Roberto C. Sánchez
On Thu, Jan 03, 2019 at 03:25:07PM +, Sean Whitton wrote:
On Thu 03 Jan 2019 at 02:47pm GMT, Ulrike Uhlig wrote:
Looks good! I like it.
One tiny thingy based on a remark: I've looked up 'slur' in the
dictionary and 'slander' and 'libel' seem to be synonyms that might be
more widely known.
I have built up quite a backlog of email, so I did not see that the
discussion had effectively concluded when I wrote my message.
On Thu, Jan 03, 2019 at 04:25:14PM +0100, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
> On 15271 March 1977, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
>
> > Probably better to say something like, "When a
Hello,
On Thu 03 Jan 2019 at 02:47pm GMT, Ulrike Uhlig wrote:
> Looks good! I like it.
>
> One tiny thingy based on a remark: I've looked up 'slur' in the
> dictionary and 'slander' and 'libel' seem to be synonyms that might be
> more widely known. Maybe a native speaker could confirm this.
Hello,
On Thu 03 Jan 2019 at 10:19am -0500, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 02, 2019 at 05:39:58PM +0200, Jonathan Carter wrote:
>>
>> On #6 I was tempted to add "When a blog is removed, the committer should
>> add a comment listing the posts that resulted in it being removed", but
>>
On Thu, Jan 03, 2019 at 02:47:00PM +, Ulrike Uhlig wrote:
> Hi!
>
> Jonathan Carter:
> > On 2019/01/03 00:26, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
>
> > Full text: https://wiki.debian.org/PlanetDebian/ProposedChanges
>
> Looks good! I like it.
>
> One tiny thingy based on a remark: I've looked up 'slur'
On 15271 March 1977, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
Probably better to say something like, "When a blog is removed,
the committer should send a direct email message to the author
of the removed content explaining the reason for the removal."
Ah please not.
That keeps potentially loaded
On Wed, Jan 02, 2019 at 05:39:58PM +0200, Jonathan Carter wrote:
>
> On #6 I was tempted to add "When a blog is removed, the committer should
> add a comment listing the posts that resulted in it being removed", but
> not sure if that's overloading it a bit too much.
>
Probably better to say
Hi!
Jonathan Carter:
> On 2019/01/03 00:26, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
> Full text: https://wiki.debian.org/PlanetDebian/ProposedChanges
Looks good! I like it.
One tiny thingy based on a remark: I've looked up 'slur' in the
dictionary and 'slander' and 'libel' seem to be synonyms that might be
more
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On 1/3/19 2:21 AM, Jonathan Carter wrote:
> Where would be the best place to reach planet syndicators to notify
> them about the update, d-d-a?
Chances are people posting on Planet also read Planet :P
But yeah, d-d-a is also a good idea.
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On 2019/01/03 02:23, Benj. Mako Hill wrote:
> I like these changes. Thanks for doing this.
Thanks, the changes are now live:
https://wiki.debian.org/PlanetDebian
Where would be the best place to reach planet syndicators to notify them
about the update, d-d-a?
-Jonathan
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⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ Jonathan
> > I've added everyone's suggestions because I think they were good, here's
> > the updated section on a subpage:
> >
> > https://wiki.debian.org/PlanetDebian/ProposedChanges
> >
> > If I get two +1's I'll go ahead and change it.
>
> +1
>
> Cheers, Phil.
>
> P.S. with the caveat that I'd
Le Wed, Jan 02, 2019 at 06:54:25PM +0100, Enrico Zini a écrit :
> On Wed, Jan 02, 2019 at 05:39:58PM +0200, Jonathan Carter wrote:
>
> > 4. Avoid posting personal fights or insults. Planet Debian is not an
> > appropriate medium for this.
>
> If I'm still on time, I'd suggest: "personal fights,
On 2019/01/03 00:26, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
>> 6. Posts that are syndicated on Planet Debian that doesn't conform
>> to our community standards may result in removal of a post or even an
>> entire blog. In such a case, please reach out to the Planet
>> administrators before re-adding your blog
On 15270 March 1977, Jonathan Carter wrote:
Dear Planet administrators and debian-project
Based on the very short amount of discussion we've had so far,
I'd like to make the following changes to
https://wiki.debian.org/PlanetDebian
Yah, followed that, didn't see reason to add more to it. :)
Jonathan Carter writes:
> On 2019/01/02 19:54, Enrico Zini wrote:
>> If I'm still on time, I'd suggest: "personal fights, insults, or slurs",
>> as I'm not sure how much we can give for granted that everyone
>> understands that using slurs counts as insulting.
>
> IMHO we're going to have to
On 2019/01/02 19:54, Enrico Zini wrote:
> If I'm still on time, I'd suggest: "personal fights, insults, or slurs",
> as I'm not sure how much we can give for granted that everyone
> understands that using slurs counts as insulting.
IMHO we're going to have to revisit these rules a few times to
On Wed, Jan 02, 2019 at 05:39:58PM +0200, Jonathan Carter wrote:
> 4. Avoid posting personal fights or insults. Planet Debian is not an
> appropriate medium for this.
If I'm still on time, I'd suggest: "personal fights, insults, or slurs",
as I'm not sure how much we can give for granted that
Thank you for doing this.
On Wed, Jan 02, 2019 at 05:39:58PM +0200, Jonathan Carter wrote:
5. Debian's community standards fully apply to Planet Debian, that
includes following [[https://www.debian.org/code_of_conduct|Debian's
Code of Conduct]].
I think this should be point #1. It's the most
On Wed, Jan 02, 2019 at 03:54:00PM +, Ulrike Uhlig wrote:
>Jonathan Carter:
>> Dear Planet administrators and debian-project
>>
>> Based on the very short amount of discussion we've had so far, I'd like
>> to make the following changes to https://wiki.debian.org/PlanetDebian
>>
>> I've scaled
Jonathan Carter:
> Dear Planet administrators and debian-project
>
> Based on the very short amount of discussion we've had so far, I'd like
> to make the following changes to https://wiki.debian.org/PlanetDebian
>
> I've scaled the wording down from what I originally suggested on
>
Hi Jonathan,
Jonathan Carter:
> Dear Planet administrators and debian-project
>
> Based on the very short amount of discussion we've had so far, I'd like
> to make the following changes to https://wiki.debian.org/PlanetDebian
>
> I've scaled the wording down from what I originally suggested on
>
Dear Planet administrators and debian-project
Based on the very short amount of discussion we've had so far, I'd like
to make the following changes to https://wiki.debian.org/PlanetDebian
I've scaled the wording down from what I originally suggested on
debian-project so that it doesn't include
Hi Jonathan, and Happy New Year!
On Tue, Jan 01, 2019 at 10:38:58PM +0200, Jonathan Carter wrote:
>On 2019/01/01 22:22, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
...
>> (for clarity, that was part of the original GR that validated the code
>> of conduct)
>>
>> I don't think it's a stretch (at all!) to claim that
On 2019/01/01 22:22, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
>>> I think it's important to be upfront that if an outside contributor
>>> wants to republish content on Planet Debian, that they be aware that we
>>> have certain community standards and that we expect them to follow it.
>>> Currently the planet wiki
On Mon, Dec 31, 2018 at 02:37:00PM +, Ulrike Uhlig wrote:
> Hi!
>
> Jonathan Carter:
>
> > I think that it might be beneficial to revisit the rules of Planet
> > Debian and fortify it a bit.
>
> Thanks for this initiative.
>
> > The Planet's rules aren't that bad, it's quite liberal; any
Hi!
Jonathan Carter:
> I think that it might be beneficial to revisit the rules of Planet
> Debian and fortify it a bit.
Thanks for this initiative.
> The Planet's rules aren't that bad, it's quite liberal; any debian
> contributor can post and the rules even encourages political posts.
>
>
Hi
Recently some unhappiness (sorry for the euphemism) was caused by posts
on Planet Debian, which resulted in a whole number of public and private
discussions (yes, that too is a euphemism).
I think that it might be beneficial to revisit the rules of Planet
Debian and fortify it a bit.
The
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