Re: Answers to questions raised about registering the Debian Logo as our trademark

2013-06-26 Thread Richard Hartmann
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 6:38 AM, Brian Gupta brian.gu...@brandorr.com wrote: 4) What is the impact of registering in the US only? A: We would still only have Common law protection in those countries we don't register the logo. We'd gain no benefit in those jurisdictions, but it wouldn't hurt

Re: Answers to questions raised about registering the Debian Logo as our trademark

2013-06-19 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
Hi, On 12/06/13 at 11:49 +0100, MJ Ray wrote: Brian Gupta brian.gu...@brandorr.com I finally had a chance to discuss with our legal counsel, and have some answers to the questions raised in the discussion. Thanks for this. It covers all I remember. One small question: Yes, thanks a

Re: Answers to questions raised about registering the Debian Logo as our trademark

2013-06-12 Thread MJ Ray
Brian Gupta brian.gu...@brandorr.com I finally had a chance to discuss with our legal counsel, and have some answers to the questions raised in the discussion. Thanks for this. It covers all I remember. One small question: 3) Should we register in the US only or register internationally?

Re: Answers to questions raised about registering the Debian Logo as our trademark

2013-06-12 Thread Gunnar Wolf
MJ Ray dijo [Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 11:49:09AM +0100]: I finally had a chance to discuss with our legal counsel, and have some answers to the questions raised in the discussion. Thanks for this. It covers all I remember. One small question: 3) Should we register in the US only or

Answers to questions raised about registering the Debian Logo as our trademark

2013-06-11 Thread Brian Gupta
I finally had a chance to discuss with our legal counsel, and have some answers to the questions raised in the discussion. The summary of the QA is (from list and some of my own): 1) Does registering logo require any changes to TM policy? A: No changes required 2) What are the costs to register

Re: Registering the Debian Logo as our trademark?

2013-05-03 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 07:51:06AM +0900, Charles Plessy a écrit : Le Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 04:04:34PM -0400, Brian Gupta a écrit : Cons: - - Filing costs of ~$700 - Labor/work required to file (With assistance from SFLC, I am willing to do much of the work required.) I wonder

Re: Registering the Debian Logo as our trademark?

2013-04-30 Thread Steve Langasek
Hi Brian, On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 04:04:34PM -0400, Brian Gupta wrote: I have been helping to field trademark inquiries for Debian since late February, and the issue of our Logo has come up a number of times. Currently, our logo is not a registered Trademark, but is considered (and treated

Re: Registering the Debian Logo as our trademark?

2013-04-28 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Brian Gupta brian.gu...@brandorr.com [2013-04-22 16:58]: 1) Gnome foot is licensed under LGPL/GPL and is a registered Trademark: (Pretty much all artwork including the foot is licensed under Copyright law under LGPL/GPL). GNOME actually has a good example of why it makes sense to license

Re: Registering the Debian Logo as our trademark?

2013-04-28 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Brian Gupta brian.gu...@brandorr.com [2013-04-22 16:04]: What do people feel about proceeding with this registration? I'm strongly in favour. As pointed out in my other email, there's no conflict between having a DFSG-free logo and having a registered trademark. -- Martin Michlmayr

Re: Registering the Debian Logo as our trademark?

2013-04-24 Thread MJ Ray
MJ Ray mjr at phonecoop.coop writes: [registration] allows law enforcement officers to prosecute what they consider infringement, whether or not we do. This is one way that multinationals make taxpayers pay for policing their brands - however, debian is not locked down like LVMH or DG. I'd

Re: Registering the Debian Logo as our trademark?

2013-04-23 Thread MJ Ray
Brian Gupta brian.gu...@brandorr.com Pros: - - Makes it easier, legally speaking, to protect our trademark, if it ever came to it Is this a significant benefit? How many protection actions have been prevented by the lack of registration? - When companies are doing trademark searches

Registering the Debian Logo as our trademark?

2013-04-22 Thread Brian Gupta
Hi all, I have been helping to field trademark inquiries for Debian since late February, and the issue of our Logo has come up a number of times. Currently, our logo is not a registered Trademark, but is considered (and treated by our current Trademark policy) as a common law trademark, in that

Re: Registering the Debian Logo as our trademark?

2013-04-22 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
Hi Brian, Just to make sure: you are talking not about swirl alone, but rather about swirl + word Debian. Is that correct? On Mon, 22 Apr 2013, Brian Gupta wrote: Hi all, I have been helping to field trademark inquiries for Debian since late February, and the issue of our Logo has come up

Re: Registering the Debian Logo as our trademark?

2013-04-22 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 04:13:24PM -0400, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: Hi Brian, Just to make sure: you are talking not about swirl alone, but rather about swirl + word Debian. Is that correct? Both are now open-use. The only non-DFSG free logo would be the bottle logo, ISTR. (the font is

Re: Registering the Debian Logo as our trademark?

2013-04-22 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
On Mon, 22 Apr 2013, Paul Tagliamonte wrote: Just to make sure: you are talking not about swirl alone, but rather about swirl + word Debian. Is that correct? Both are now open-use. I was interested which logo was suggested to become a registered Trademark. -- Yaroslav O. Halchenko,

Re: Registering the Debian Logo as our trademark?

2013-04-22 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
On Mon, 22 Apr 2013, Brian Gupta wrote: Just to make sure: you are talking not about swirl alone, but rather about swirl + word Debian. Is that correct? Yes, the swirl alone. Could it be trademarked? I thought that because of its unfortunately common origin there is so many of existing

Re: Registering the Debian Logo as our trademark?

2013-04-22 Thread Brian Gupta
On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 4:09 PM, Paul Tagliamonte paul...@debian.org wrote: On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 04:04:34PM -0400, Brian Gupta wrote: Hi all, I have been helping to field trademark inquiries for Debian since late February, and the issue of our Logo has come up a number of times.

Re: Registering the Debian Logo as our trademark?

2013-04-22 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 04:58:27PM -0400, Brian Gupta wrote: On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 4:09 PM, Paul Tagliamonte paul...@debian.org wrote: On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 04:04:34PM -0400, Brian Gupta wrote: Hi all, I have been helping to field trademark inquiries for Debian since late February,

Re: Registering the Debian Logo as our trademark?

2013-04-22 Thread Brian Gupta
On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 4:37 PM, Yaroslav Halchenko deb...@onerussian.com wrote: On Mon, 22 Apr 2013, Brian Gupta wrote: Just to make sure: you are talking not about swirl alone, but rather about swirl + word Debian. Is that correct? Yes, the swirl alone. Could it be trademarked? I

Re: Registering the Debian Logo as our trademark?

2013-04-22 Thread Brian Gupta
On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 5:01 PM, Paul Tagliamonte paul...@debian.org wrote: On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 04:58:27PM -0400, Brian Gupta wrote: On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 4:09 PM, Paul Tagliamonte paul...@debian.org wrote: On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 04:04:34PM -0400, Brian Gupta wrote: Hi all, I have