Re: What do you expect from the DPL?

2015-02-16 Thread Ian Jackson
Anthony Towns writes (Re: What do you expect from the DPL?): To my mind, that's because there's a lack of obvious alternatives on how to do ambitious Debian reform plans -- or in particular establishing the moral and practical support for them. So in the same sense that the DPL is the final

Re: What do you expect from the DPL?

2015-02-16 Thread Ondřej Surý
Just few random notes... On Fri, Feb 13, 2015, at 04:08, Paul Wise wrote: - Mediation regarding social and technical problems The former seems like the responsibility of Debian as a whole and the latter is the responsibility of the CTTE. I have several occasions in my mind when I would be

Re: What do you expect from the DPL?

2015-02-16 Thread Nikolaus Rath
On Feb 16 2015, Ian Jackson ijack...@chiark.greenend.org.uk wrote: I haven't seen any followup from the tech ctte on some of the disucssion from Dec about improving the way the ctte approaches requests, cf https://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2014/12/msg00050.html

Re: What do you expect from the DPL?

2015-02-16 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 16/02/15 at 20:39 +0100, Ondřej Surý wrote: Just few random notes... On Fri, Feb 13, 2015, at 04:08, Paul Wise wrote: - Mediation regarding social and technical problems The former seems like the responsibility of Debian as a whole and the latter is the responsibility of the CTTE.

Re: What do you expect from the DPL?

2015-02-15 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sat, Feb 14, 2015 at 02:41:18PM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: On Sat, Feb 14, 2015 at 10:07:08AM +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: My own view on the original question (What are you expected the DPL to do?) is that the main thing the DPL must absolutely do is being a good garbage collector

Re: What do you expect from the DPL?

2015-02-14 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Sat, Feb 14, 2015 at 02:41:18PM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: On Sat, Feb 14, 2015 at 10:07:08AM +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: My own view on the original question (What are you expected the DPL to do?) is that the main thing the DPL must absolutely do is being a good garbage collector (I

Re: What do you expect from the DPL?

2015-02-14 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Sat, Feb 14, 2015 at 10:07:08AM +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: My own view on the original question (What are you expected the DPL to do?) is that the main thing the DPL must absolutely do is being a good garbage collector (I think the original naming comes from Zack). Possibly. I think I

Re: What do you expect from the DPL?

2015-02-14 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
Hi, On 13/02/15 at 11:08 +0800, Paul Wise wrote: On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 4:57 AM, Ana Guerrero Lopez wrote: Lucas sent an email asking people to encourage their 'dream DPL' [1]. I have already encouraged a few people in the last weeks, but when discussing with them, they all tell me

Re: What do you expect from the DPL?

2015-02-13 Thread Ana Guerrero Lopez
On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 11:08:44AM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 4:57 AM, Ana Guerrero Lopez wrote: Lucas sent an email asking people to encourage their 'dream DPL' [1]. I have already encouraged a few people in the last weeks, but when discussing with them, they all

What do you expect from the DPL?

2015-02-12 Thread Ana Guerrero Lopez
Hi, Lucas sent an email asking people to encourage their 'dream DPL' [1]. I have already encouraged a few people in the last weeks, but when discussing with them, they all tell me very different things about the DPL role. When I asked: What are you expecting the DPL to do?, I got a bunch of

Re: What do you expect from the DPL?

2015-02-12 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
[ just pointing to some related work / previous discussion on this topic ] On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 09:57:04PM +0100, Ana Guerrero Lopez wrote: This is, globally, people are expecting the DPL to do all of the above and maybe more. I think it's clear this is NOT humanly possible. What are the

Re: What do you expect from the DPL?

2015-02-12 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 4:57 AM, Ana Guerrero Lopez wrote: Lucas sent an email asking people to encourage their 'dream DPL' [1]. I have already encouraged a few people in the last weeks, but when discussing with them, they all tell me very different things about the DPL role. When I asked: