Sam Hartman writes (Re: What it means to be Debian):
[...] However, one of the things I value about our community is
that our values ar expressed in terms of our actions, not our
believes.
I also value in Debian _both_ that so many of the people in Debian
seem to believe so many of the same
Bas == Bas Wijnen wij...@debian.org writes:
Bas The above has nothing to do with beliefs. Beliefs are about
Bas people who believe that using non-free services is better for
Bas some ethical reason. They will say that even if a free
Bas alternative would be available, the
On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 08:41:57PM +0200, Dominik George wrote:
Hi,
I find it difficult to express my disagreement with the your views,
and your attitude, with the respect that is due to a fellow
contributor. But I will try.
I looked, but somehow failed to see how the peer in question is
On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 08:59:51PM +0200, Bas Wijnen wrote:
The above has nothing to do with beliefs. Beliefs are about people who
believe
that using non-free services is better for some ethical reason.
Do such people exist or that's a straw man?
I'm not sure if they do.
Thanks.
On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 03:59:57PM +0200, Bas Wijnen wrote:
The above has nothing to do with beliefs. Beliefs are about people who
believe
that using non-free services is better for some ethical reason.
Do such people exist or that's a straw man?
So I agree with the illness statement
Ian Jackson ijack...@chiark.greenend.org.uk writes:
Dominik George writes (Re: What it means to be Debian):
I strongly support that. I also do *not* think that everyone who uses
non-free services or the like should leave Debian or is neitrely bad for
the community.
Mostly, I *personally
On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 10:47:09PM +0500, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote:
On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 03:59:57PM +0200, Bas Wijnen wrote:
The above has nothing to do with beliefs. Beliefs are about people who
believe
that using non-free services is better for some ethical reason.
Do such people
Hi,
I find it difficult to express my disagreement with the your views,
and your attitude, with the respect that is due to a fellow
contributor. But I will try.
I looked, but somehow failed to see how the peer in question is a contributor.
All there is is a demand for *our* contribution in
Hi,
This issue is important enough to me that I'd like to take a moment to
share mine. I'm not trying to pursuade you. I really appreciate how you
presented your position; you didn't try to say I was wrong, and you were
honest and open even when there is disagreement.
I am not judging you
On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 02:46:45PM +0200, Dominik George wrote:
Mostly, I *personally* do not find those people authentic enough to
uphold any such community standard. It's somewhat like donating to a
species conservation organisation, taking the money from a purse made of
crocodile skin. It's
Dominik == Dominik George n...@naturalnet.de writes:
Dominik b) BELIEF =
Dominik If any Debian contributor BELIEVES that the use of Google,
Dominik and the like, is a good thing, then the illness lies in the
Dominik divergence between their contribution and their
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On 06/16/2015 03:27 PM, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote:
Debian isn't advertised as a distribution whose main goal is to
provide 100% free something while not providing anything non-free,
I think there are other projects with such advertising. So I
On Tue, 2015-06-16 at 18:27 +0500, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote:
On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 02:46:45PM +0200, Dominik George wrote:
Mostly, I *personally* do not find those people authentic enough to
uphold any such community standard. It's somewhat like donating to a
species conservation
On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 06:24:09PM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote:
Mostly, I *personally* do not find those people authentic enough to
uphold any such community standard. It's somewhat like donating to a
species conservation organisation, taking the money from a purse made of
crocodile
Zlatan == Zlatan Todoric zla...@riseup.net writes:
Zlatan On the other hand - I do believe that Debian contributors
Zlatan should uphold Social Contract and DFSG as much as possible
Zlatan because if we don't push it forward and believe in it, then
Zlatan no one else will.
I
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