Re: Unteralterbach (was: Re: clarify FTP master delegation?)

2014-03-14 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 13/03/14 11:14, Mateusz Jończyk wrote: W dniu 12.03.2014 22:17, Vincent Cheng pisze: On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 11:42 AM, Russ Allbery r...@debian.org wrote: I don't believe Debian is the right place or mechanism to pick this fight. I think it would be a huge distraction from the point of

Re: Unteralterbach (was: Re: clarify FTP master delegation?)

2014-03-14 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Daniel Pocock said: Reading the thread, it appears that people have some hope that this would actually be considered as a package, e.g. if they remove the images that are technically illegal An outsider looking at that discussion - and not finding anything in our

Re: Unteralterbach (was: Re: clarify FTP master delegation?)

2014-03-13 Thread Mateusz Jończyk
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 W dniu 12.03.2014 22:17, Vincent Cheng pisze: On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 11:42 AM, Russ Allbery r...@debian.org wrote: I don't believe Debian is the right place or mechanism to pick this fight. I think it would be a huge distraction from the point of

Re: clarify FTP master delegation?

2014-03-12 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 11/03/14 20:47, Neil McGovern wrote: On 11 Mar 2014, at 18:20, Daniel Pocock dan...@pocock.com.au wrote: There is some ongoing discussion (on debian-legal) about whether the FTP masters will accept a particular package For those who weren’t around 10 years ago, I would suggest[0] reading up

Re: clarify FTP master delegation?

2014-03-12 Thread Nikolaus Rath
Daniel Pocock dan...@pocock.pro writes: On 11/03/14 20:47, Neil McGovern wrote: On 11 Mar 2014, at 18:20, Daniel Pocock dan...@pocock.com.au wrote: There is some ongoing discussion (on debian-legal) about whether the FTP masters will accept a particular package For those who weren’t around 10

Re: clarify FTP master delegation?

2014-03-12 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 09:04:13AM -0700, Nikolaus Rath wrote: quick glance over debian-legal at Gmane didn't show any obvious megathreads). I don't know why gmane doesn't show it. https://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2014/03/ -- WBR, wRAR signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: clarify FTP master delegation?

2014-03-12 Thread Daniel Pocock
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 12/03/14 18:02, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 09:04:13AM -0700, Nikolaus Rath wrote: quick glance over debian-legal at Gmane didn't show any obvious megathreads). I don't know why gmane doesn't show it.

Re: clarify FTP master delegation?

2014-03-12 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Daniel Pocock said: My impression is that the type of issue currently under discussion is not adequately specified in the FTP master delegation, it leaves the FTP masters to do more work on something that is actually quite complicated and has far-reaching

Re: clarify FTP master delegation?

2014-03-12 Thread Russ Allbery
Daniel Pocock dan...@pocock.com.au writes: On 12/03/14 18:02, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 09:04:13AM -0700, Nikolaus Rath wrote: quick glance over debian-legal at Gmane didn't show any obvious megathreads). I don't know why gmane doesn't show it.

Unteralterbach (was: Re: clarify FTP master delegation?)

2014-03-12 Thread Vincent Cheng
(Crossposting to debian-devel-games, where most of the discussion is being held about this) On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 11:42 AM, Russ Allbery r...@debian.org wrote: Daniel Pocock dan...@pocock.com.au writes: On 12/03/14 18:02, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 09:04:13AM -0700,

Re: clarify FTP master delegation?

2014-03-11 Thread Paul R. Tagliamonte
http://bugs.debian.org/535645 is perhaps relevant: 2. reaffirms the ftp team's authority to exercise their own judgement in deciding to remove packages from the archive, whenever this is done for reasons consistent with the twin mandates to keep the archive operational and to support the

Re: clarify FTP master delegation?

2014-03-11 Thread Ian Jackson
Daniel Pocock writes (clarify FTP master delegation?): The FTP team wiki[1] links to a delegation email[2] The delegation email is very light, it just says they are Accepting and rejecting packages that enter the NEW and byhand queues without any reference to the policies they should apply

Re: clarify FTP master delegation?

2014-03-11 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 11/03/14 20:19, Ian Jackson wrote: Daniel Pocock writes (clarify FTP master delegation?): The FTP team wiki[1] links to a delegation email[2] The delegation email is very light, it just says they are Accepting and rejecting packages that enter the NEW and byhand queues without any

Re: clarify FTP master delegation?

2014-03-11 Thread Neil McGovern
On 11 Mar 2014, at 18:20, Daniel Pocock dan...@pocock.com.au wrote: There is some ongoing discussion (on debian-legal) about whether the FTP masters will accept a particular package For those who weren’t around 10 years ago, I would suggest[0] reading up on #283578, and associated mails to