Re: Reminder: Removing 2048 bit keys from the Debian keyrings

2014-11-09 Thread Enrico Zini
On Sat, Nov 08, 2014 at 10:19:02PM +0100, Richard Hartmann wrote:

 That seems to have happened in similar form a few times already; given
 the context, it's reasonable to expect them to poke -project,
 -private, or just anyone on their own.

I know at least one of the people listed who is already taking action,
currently managed to get one DD signature (me) and several other paths
to the strongly connected set, and will probably wait until closer to
the deadline to do the key update, hoping for opportunities for more DD
sigs.

Therefore I would not claim that all of the people listed there are
sitting there doing nothing. I like that Jonathan's mail was worded as
an invitation to offer help.


Enrico

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Re: Reminder: Removing 2048 bit keys from the Debian keyrings

2014-11-09 Thread Jonathan McDowell
On Sat, Nov 08, 2014 at 08:25:58PM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote:
 On Nov 08, Jonathan McDowell nood...@earth.li wrote:
 
  Back in August I sent notification[0] about the fact that we will be
  removing all keys less than 2048 from our keyrings at the end of the
  year (31st December 2014). Sadly the response to this has been slower
  than expected, and we still have about 439 keys that require
  replacement.

 So the plan is that the beatings will continue until morale improves?

I am sorry you and those developers who have emailed me privately to
complain feel like I am engaging in some form of punishment or naming
and shaming. I deliberately did not include the list of affected
contributors in my August mail, despite being asked to be several
people.

At this point I'm now trying to make sure that absolutely no one can
claim that they were not warned about the forthcoming key removals; I
have also been criticised for having too soft an approach up to this
point, such that several people have felt that the first warning they
had that the project was phasing out shorter key lengths was the August
mail.

To reinforce Enrico's mail I'm well aware that there are people on the
list who are valiantly trying to get the signatures they need on new
keys, and have had legitimate issues with getting them. I ask the
project to help them where possible.

J.

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Re: Reminder: Removing 2048 bit keys from the Debian keyrings

2014-11-09 Thread Marco d'Itri
nood...@earth.li wrote:

I am sorry you and those developers who have emailed me privately to
complain feel like I am engaging in some form of punishment or naming
and shaming.
No, I do not think that there is anything wrong with publishing their 
names.
What I feel is that this new policy of removing the shorter keys in such
a timeframe, other than not being justified by the actual security
risks, is failing to achieve the results desidered (still many people
have not replaced their key) but no actions are being taken to correct
it.

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