On Mon, May 04, 2020 at 05:47:16AM -0400, Dan Purgert wrote:
> On May 03, 2020, Florian Weimer wrote:
> > [...]
> > What I find concerning is that Discourse (the web application) does
> > not clearly communicate how it shares the data it collects about me
> > with users. For example, it seems to
On May 03, 2020, Florian Weimer wrote:
> [...]
> What I find concerning is that Discourse (the web application) does
> not clearly communicate how it shares the data it collects about me
> with users. For example, it seems to notify other users that I'm not
> active on the site, next to my posts,
* Ansgar:
> I'm not concerned about marking messages read after some time and
> keeping the view time in ephermal storage for that. But that's not
> what Discourse does: as described elsewhere it stores all read times
> persistently on the server; that would not be neccessary for marking
> posts
Neil McGovern wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 12:47:06PM +0200, Ansgar wrote:
> > I'm not concerned about marking messages read after some time and
> > keeping the view time in ephermal storage for that. But that's not
> > what Discourse does: as described elsewhere it stores all read times
> >
On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 03:40:40PM +0200, Ansgar wrote:
> On Wed, 2020-04-15 at 08:56 +0100, Neil McGovern wrote:
> > The point of the trust levels is to distribute the moderation. Whatever
> > metric we come up with, it will involve a certain amount of actually
> > using the site, and engaging
I reordered the quoted paragraphs to make it more consistent with bottom
posting.
On Wednesday, April 15, 2020 07:24:03 AM Neil McGovern wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 12:47:06PM +0200, Ansgar wrote:
> No, but it is required for things like knowing which posts in a topic is
> popular, so
On Wednesday, April 15, 2020 03:56:28 AM Neil McGovern wrote:
> Could you explain this please? I feel that having a notification (which
> only appears for people who regularly interact with the site) that
> someone is new to the community to be useful.
I am probably going to say more about this
On Wed, 2020-04-15 at 08:56 +0100, Neil McGovern wrote:
> The point of the trust levels is to distribute the moderation. Whatever
> metric we come up with, it will involve a certain amount of actually
> using the site, and engaging with the community.
Looking at some topics on meta.discourse.org,
On 2020-04-15 11:21, Neil McGovern wrote:
> Yes. You can subscribe to categories, topics and tags (or combinations
> of them). For example, if you only ever care about m68k, you could watch
> #m68k and get a notification email for that across all categories.
This is pretty nice! Thank you!
(Also
On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 12:47:06PM +0200, Ansgar wrote:
> I'm not concerned about marking messages read after some time and
> keeping the view time in ephermal storage for that. But that's not
> what Discourse does: as described elsewhere it stores all read times
> persistently on the server;
On Wed, 2020-04-15 at 11:21 +0100, Neil McGovern wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 11:08:45AM +0200, Martin wrote:
> > On 2020-04-15 08:56, Neil McGovern wrote:
> > > Could I point out that the email program you wrote this message
> > > in is
> > > doing the same?
> >
> > Could you elaborate on
On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 11:08:45AM +0200, Martin wrote:
> On 2020-04-15 08:56, Neil McGovern wrote:
> > Could I point out that the email program you wrote this message in is
> > doing the same?
>
> Could you elaborate on that? Ansgar seems to use
> "User-Agent: Evolution 3.36.1-1"
> (While I'm
On 2020-04-15 08:56, Neil McGovern wrote:
> Could I point out that the email program you wrote this message in is
> doing the same?
Could you elaborate on that? Ansgar seems to use
"User-Agent: Evolution 3.36.1-1"
(While I'm using mutt.) How do such UAs track reading behaviour?
> Quoting does
Hi Ansgar,
To start with, I want to say that I found your mail to be quite
frustrating. I feel it may have been more constructive to phrase
concerns as questions, rather than stating them as facts, and ascribing
motivations or inferances which simply aren't correct. That said, I'll
try and reply
Hello Karsten,
On Tue 14 Apr 2020 at 06:42PM +02, Karsten Merker wrote:
> As a personal note: compared to my email client I find the
> discourse web interface very unwieldly and impractical (like most
> web forums). This is of course a matter of taste and personal
> preferences, but exactly
Hello,
On Tue 14 Apr 2020 at 08:22AM +00, Holger Levsen wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 02:31:23PM -0700, Sean Whitton wrote:
>> > The trust system gives me no trust at all. It is very closely bound to
>> > participation over the web interface, monitors the reading frequency and
>> > time
>> >
I'd like to echo the comment that requiring people to regularly visit
the site does not seem to meet Debian's needs very well for trust.
I'd imagine there are a number of people in our community who will tend
to read things via email, but who would only visit the site to help
moderate--splitting
On 2020-04-14 14:30, Ansgar wrote:
> That said I'm in principle fine with trying a mostly
> web-only system; just like GitLab also really needs to be used over the
> web.
I'm a salsa.d.o user of course, but how often would I login into
the web interface? Once a month? 99 % of the interaction is
On Mon, 2020-04-13 at 19:56 +0100, Neil McGovern wrote:
> Instead of explaining it here, please have a
> read of the following:
> https://blog.discourse.org/2018/06/understanding-discourse-trust-levels/
> The short version is that the more a particular account interacts with
> the community in a
On Tuesday, April 14, 2020 06:09:48 AM Dan Purgert wrote:
> On Apr 14, 2020, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
...
> > This is just the ultra-liberal way to see things. He who owns the
> > resources has absolute say on their use.
>
> "ultra-liberal" -- I don't think that word means what you think it
On 2020-04-13 23:33, Andy Smith wrote:
> Not to speak for Neil, but it's generally argued that private
> entities cannot censor, because a nation/state can tell you that you
> cannot express an opinion using your own resources. By contrast a
> private entity like Debian can only tell you that you
On Apr 14, 2020, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 09:33:20PM +, Andy Smith wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > Not to speak for Neil, but it's generally argued that private
> > entities cannot censor, because a nation/state can tell you that you
> > cannot express an opinion using your
On Apr 14, 2020, Holger Levsen wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 02:31:23PM -0700, Sean Whitton wrote:
> > > The trust system gives me no trust at all. It is very closely bound to
> > > participation over the web interface, monitors the reading frequency and
> > > time
> > > spent on reading by
On Lu, 13 apr 20, 19:56:28, Neil McGovern wrote:
>
> Firstly, trust levels. These are the levels of "trust" that the platform
> has in any particular user. Instead of explaining it here, please have a
> read of the following:
>
On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 08:22:22AM +, Holger Levsen wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 02:31:23PM -0700, Sean Whitton wrote:
> > > The trust system gives me no trust at all. It is very closely bound to
> > > participation over the web interface, monitors the reading frequency and
> > > time
> >
On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 02:31:23PM -0700, Sean Whitton wrote:
> > The trust system gives me no trust at all. It is very closely bound to
> > participation over the web interface, monitors the reading frequency and
> > time
> > spent on reading by users.
> [1]
>
On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 09:33:20PM +, Andy Smith wrote:
[...]
> Not to speak for Neil, but it's generally argued that private
> entities cannot censor, because a nation/state can tell you that you
> cannot express an opinion using your own resources. By contrast a
> private entity like
On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 02:31:23PM -0700, Sean Whitton wrote:
> Hello,
>
> On Mon 13 Apr 2020 at 10:33PM +02, Mathias Behrle wrote:
>
> > The trust system gives me no trust at all. It is very closely bound to
> > participation over the web interface, monitors the reading frequency and
> > time
Hello,
On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 10:33:25PM +0200, Mathias Behrle wrote:
> * Neil McGovern: " Re: Testing Discourse for Debian - Moderation concepts"
> (Mon, 13 Apr 2020 19:56:28 +0100):
> > I just want to state, I won't debate any issues around freedom of
> > spe
Hello,
On Mon 13 Apr 2020 at 10:33PM +02, Mathias Behrle wrote:
> The trust system gives me no trust at all. It is very closely bound to
> participation over the web interface, monitors the reading frequency and time
> spent on reading by users.
It seems this is indeed so.[1][2] I hope that an
* Neil McGovern: " Re: Testing Discourse for Debian - Moderation concepts"
(Mon, 13 Apr 2020 19:56:28 +0100):
> I am going to try and split this out into two replies, so those
> following along can see the different issues. The irony of the
> difficulty on doing this with
I am going to try and split this out into two replies, so those
following along can see the different issues. The irony of the
difficulty on doing this within email may or may not be lost for others.
On Sun, Apr 12, 2020 at 02:43:31PM -0700, Ihor Antonov wrote:
> > You have to trust the
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