Re: Replace the TC power to depose maintainers

2016-12-02 Thread Paul Wise
On Sat, Dec 3, 2016 at 6:20 AM, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > We could get rid of "Maintainer" in debian/control and still display > on tracker.debian.org the name of people who are uploading/committing > in a dynamic "Maintainer" section. > > Actually, this is part of my grand-plan... :-) aka >

Re: Replace the TC power to depose maintainers

2016-12-02 Thread Ian Jackson
Stefano Zacchiroli writes ("Re: Replace the TC power to depose maintainers"): > On Thu, Dec 01, 2016 at 03:46:05PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: > > 3. Abolish maintainership entirely. > > This is the obviously right solution. I can see why this is attractive. But as I say I we need a way to deal

Re: Replace the TC power to depose maintainers

2016-12-02 Thread Johannes Schauer
Hi, Quoting Ian Jackson (2016-12-02 12:43:52) > Stefano Zacchiroli writes ("Re: Replace the TC power to depose maintainers"): > > On Thu, Dec 01, 2016 at 03:46:05PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: > > > 3. Abolish maintainership entirely. > > > > This is the obviously right solution. > > I can see

Re: Replace the TC power to depose maintainers

2016-12-02 Thread Johannes Schauer
Hi, Quoting Holger Levsen (2016-12-02 13:11:05) > I'm just commenting on this single issue (and aspect of it…) here+now… > > On Thu, Dec 01, 2016 at 07:20:36PM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 01, 2016 at 03:46:05PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: > > > 3. Abolish maintainership

Re: Replace the TC power to depose maintainers

2016-12-02 Thread Holger Levsen
On Fri, Dec 02, 2016 at 01:40:31PM +0100, Johannes Schauer wrote: > > motivation. being able to say "I'm the maintainer of $foo" is a *great* > > motivation for many. Taking this away *might* cause a lot more harm that > > gain. > Why would this be taken away? motivation works in strange ways.

Re: Replace the TC power to depose maintainers

2016-12-02 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, I'm just commenting on this single issue (and aspect of it…) here+now… On Thu, Dec 01, 2016 at 07:20:36PM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > On Thu, Dec 01, 2016 at 03:46:05PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: > > 3. Abolish maintainership entirely. > This is the obviously right solution. while I

Re: Replace the TC power to depose maintainers

2016-12-02 Thread Ian Jackson
Johannes Schauer writes ("Re: Replace the TC power to depose maintainers"): > Quoting Ian Jackson (2016-12-02 12:43:52) > > And it is this very rule which is the problem. If you propose to > > solve the stop-energy maintainer deathgrip problem by abolishing > > maintainership entirely, you need

Re: Replace the TC power to depose maintainers

2016-12-02 Thread Adam Borowski
On Fri, Dec 02, 2016 at 01:32:40PM +0100, Johannes Schauer wrote: > Quoting Ian Jackson (2016-12-02 12:43:52) > > Otherwise it really will be chaos, with people uploading contra-reverts of > > each others' reverts. > > Personally, I doubt that this would happen. In a world without maintainership,

Re: Replace the TC power to depose maintainers

2016-12-02 Thread Ian Jackson
Stefano Zacchiroli writes ("Re: Replace the TC power to depose maintainers"): > On Thu, Dec 01, 2016 at 03:46:05PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: > > 3. Abolish maintainership entirely. > > This is the obviously right solution. Hey, I have an idea that maybe you will support, which takes us much more

Re: Replace the TC power to depose maintainers

2016-12-02 Thread Iustin Pop
On 2016-12-02 13:32:40, Johannes Schauer wrote: > Quoting Ian Jackson (2016-12-02 12:43:52) > > Otherwise it really will be chaos, with people uploading contra-reverts of > > each others' reverts. > > Personally, I doubt that this would happen. In a world without maintainership, > I'd expect

Re: Replace the TC power to depose maintainers

2016-12-02 Thread Mattia Rizzolo
On Fri, Dec 02, 2016 at 01:39:30PM +, Holger Levsen wrote: > On Fri, Dec 02, 2016 at 01:40:31PM +0100, Johannes Schauer wrote: > > > motivation. being able to say "I'm the maintainer of $foo" is a *great* > > > motivation for many. Taking this away *might* cause a lot more harm that > > >

Re: Replace the TC power to depose maintainers

2016-12-02 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Fri, 02 Dec 2016, Holger Levsen wrote: > I'm not saying people like you dont exist, nor that your reasoning aint > sensible. I've just said some people take motivation from being listed > as maintainer. We could get rid of "Maintainer" in debian/control and still display on tracker.debian.org