On Apr 13, 2020, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 08:46:02AM -0400, Dan Purgert wrote:
> > On April 12, 2020, Russ Allbery wrote:
> > > [...]
> > > There is some age correlation with the type of communication mechanism
> > > one is comfortable with [...]
>
> > Who makes up the
]] Enrico Zini
> On Sat, Apr 11, 2020 at 09:47:39PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
>
> > We quite regularly have upstreams getting access for weird architecture
> > failures. There's no particular reason for those people to have salsa
> > accounts.
>
> I understand those are temporary
AS I understand it the only open issue preventing a delegation is the
following; we need to find wording that makes it clear you can write to
parties other than the CT.
> >> * To respond to concerns raised by members of the project or
> >> people interacting with them, working with
On Fri, 2020-04-10 at 20:38 +0200, Enrico Zini wrote:
[...]
> * If we drop the requirement of having "-guest" for non-DD users on
> Salsa, how can one tell if a user is a DD?
>
> Waldi has a prototype ready for showing official membership status
> prominently and directly on a user's page, with
On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 09:33:27AM -0400, Dan Purgert wrote:
[...]
> > In-reply-to header of your mail, then ;-D
>
> Drat, didn't realize that didn't pull in :( ; sorry for the gaffe.
;-D
> > Brought to you by some dinosaur
>
> I should be getting off your lawn then, right?
:-)
Had I a
> "Luca" == Luca Filipozzi writes:
Luca> This is why having a central approach to account creation,
Luca> rather than distributed, is worth considering. I'm in favour
Luca> of usernames not changing because one's role changes but that
Luca> does not mean I'm favour of
On April 12, 2020, Russ Allbery wrote:
> [...]
> There is some age correlation with the type of communication mechanism
> one is comfortable with, and reason to believe that younger people
> skew towards being more comfortable with forums than with email.
Who makes up the "younger" crowd? sub
On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 08:46:02AM -0400, Dan Purgert wrote:
> On April 12, 2020, Russ Allbery wrote:
> > [...]
> > There is some age correlation with the type of communication mechanism
> > one is comfortable with [...]
> Who makes up the "younger" crowd? [...]
> (Aside, apologies if this is
I am going to try and split this out into two replies, so those
following along can see the different issues. The irony of the
difficulty on doing this within email may or may not be lost for others.
On Sun, Apr 12, 2020 at 02:43:31PM -0700, Ihor Antonov wrote:
> > You have to trust the
On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 04:39:17PM -0400, Sam Hartman wrote:
> Martin, Neil has said that he wants to put his effort into Discourse.
>
> It sounds like you'd try something else.
> I'll admit to wanting to see an attempt at mailman3 or something like
> that but not having the energy to put into
Hi Sam,
On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 11:19:40AM -0400, Debian Project Leader wrote:
>
>AS I understand it the only open issue preventing a delegation is the
>following; we need to find wording that makes it clear you can write to
>parties other than the CT.
>
>> >> * To respond to concerns raised
On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 7:24 PM Nathanael Skrepek wrote:
> I want to offer a suggestion, because i was a little bit puzzled by the
> following.
Please file a report about this so the installer team can work on fixing it:
https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch05s04#submit-bug
--
bye,
Hello,
On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 10:33:25PM +0200, Mathias Behrle wrote:
> * Neil McGovern: " Re: Testing Discourse for Debian - Moderation concepts"
> (Mon, 13 Apr 2020 19:56:28 +0100):
> > I just want to state, I won't debate any issues around freedom of
> > speech. I believe that these do not
On Apr 13, 2020, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Dan Purgert writes:
>
> > I think your younger colleagues are perhaps in a similar situation as me
> > then -- the first place they've experienced *real* email volumes is at
> > their first actual professional position; and they don't know how to
> > cope
On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 6:39 pm, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
It's not clear to me why removing the -guest restriction has to happen
for sso.d.o to be using Salsa as an IdP, which seems to be your
primary
goal? That's my most immediate concern. Switching to oauth2/OIDC
seems
like a good idea,
On Apr 13, 2020, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Dan Purgert writes:
>
> > Who makes up the "younger" crowd? sub 30? sub 20? I mean, I personally
> > was in my mid-20s when I first started using Linux (college), and I had
> > otherwise only been introduced to the internet via AOL.
>
> Sub 30 was what I
Hello!
I want to offer a suggestion, because i was a little bit puzzled by the
following.
After the installation of Debian I wanted to install `texlive` by typing
`apt-get texlive-full` in the terminal (i think the actual packages doesn't
really matter but anyway), but then there came the
On Sun, Apr 12, 2020 at 07:39:34PM +0200, Enrico Zini wrote:
> Does Discourse have some kind of export feature, that one could
> postprocess to get for example a mailbox of annotated emails?
>
Yes, though I think there's just automated ways of doing this for the
entire database, or for your
Hello,
On Mon 13 Apr 2020 at 08:38PM +01, Neil McGovern wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 12, 2020 at 07:39:34PM +0200, Enrico Zini wrote:
>> Does Discourse have some kind of export feature, that one could
>> postprocess to get for example a mailbox of annotated emails?
>>
>
> Yes, though I think there's
Hi Neil, hi project,
thanks for putting effort in communication improvements, either on
the social or on the technical level.
I'm a Discourse user on various instances, but I'm not an admin on
any of them. This is my end-user experience:
Good:
- Discussions are usually well structured. It is
Dan Purgert writes:
> Who makes up the "younger" crowd? sub 30? sub 20? I mean, I personally
> was in my mid-20s when I first started using Linux (college), and I had
> otherwise only been introduced to the internet via AOL.
Sub 30 was what I was thinking of. I'm only saying there's a bit of
On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 04:54:28AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
> In that sense, I would expect structured discussion systems such as
> Discourse to be a potential time saver, and therefore lower the barrier
> for contribution to everybody: those who contribute their point of view,
> and those who
On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 10:51:21AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
>
>Sub 30 was what I was thinking of. I'm only saying there's a bit of a
>statistical tendency, not that this applies to everyone, obviously. But
>when I look around at the broader development world, the majority of the
>newer
I am going to try and split this out into two replies, so those
following along can see the different issues. The irony of the
difficulty on doing this within email may or may not be lost for others.
On Sun, Apr 12, 2020 at 02:43:31PM -0700, Ihor Antonov wrote:
> - There are only 2 browsers out
> "Peter" == Peter Palfrader writes:
Peter> On Mon, 13 Apr 2020, Sam Hartman wrote:
>> > "Luca" == Luca Filipozzi writes:
>>
Luca> This is why having a central approach to account creation,
Luca> rather than distributed, is worth considering. I'm in favour
Luca>
On Monday, April 13, 2020 3:38:45 PM EDT Neil McGovern wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 12, 2020 at 07:39:34PM +0200, Enrico Zini wrote:
> > Does Discourse have some kind of export feature, that one could
> > postprocess to get for example a mailbox of annotated emails?
>
> Yes, though I think there's just
Martin, Neil has said that he wants to put his effort into Discourse.
It sounds like you'd try something else.
I'll admit to wanting to see an attempt at mailman3 or something like
that but not having the energy to put into it.
I wonder if you or some of the people who would like to try something
Hello,
On Mon 13 Apr 2020 at 10:33PM +02, Mathias Behrle wrote:
> The trust system gives me no trust at all. It is very closely bound to
> participation over the web interface, monitors the reading frequency and time
> spent on reading by users.
It seems this is indeed so.[1][2] I hope that an
On Monday, April 13, 2020 12:20:28 PM PDT Neil McGovern wrote:
> There is a commitment to improve the email integration from at least one
> Discourse employee, who also happens to be a Debian Developer. I but do
>
> want to emphasise the point I made in my original mail:
> > It should be noted
Ihor Antonov writes:
> I do apologize if I came across offensively in this thread. English is
> not my native language and often I lack communication skills to express
> what I want in a less blunt way. And often re-reading my own emails It
> picture myself as an angry enraged, which is not how
Hello,
On Mon 13 Apr 2020 at 04:54AM +09, Charles Plessy wrote:
> Le Sat, Apr 11, 2020 at 03:05:12PM -0700, Sean Whitton a écrit :
>>
>> For any technical topic (including DEPs) it is important that we can
>> find old discussions in the future, easily, and without there being too
>> many
On Mon, 13 Apr 2020, Sam Hartman wrote:
> > "Luca" == Luca Filipozzi writes:
>
> Luca> This is why having a central approach to account creation,
> Luca> rather than distributed, is worth considering. I'm in favour
> Luca> of usernames not changing because one's role changes but
Dan Purgert writes:
> I think your younger colleagues are perhaps in a similar situation as me
> then -- the first place they've experienced *real* email volumes is at
> their first actual professional position; and they don't know how to
> cope with *everything* being placed into their inbox. I
Hello Ihor,
On Sun 12 Apr 2020 at 05:12PM -07, Ihor Antonov wrote:
> I much more like what https://sourcehut.org is doing. They are working on
> improving email workflows without forcing users into web browsers and I think
> this is something we should do to.
It is worth noting that Sourcehut
* Neil McGovern: " Re: Testing Discourse for Debian - Moderation concepts"
(Mon, 13 Apr 2020 19:56:28 +0100):
> I am going to try and split this out into two replies, so those
> following along can see the different issues. The irony of the
> difficulty on doing this within email may or may not
Hello,
On Sun 12 Apr 2020 at 07:39PM +02, Enrico Zini wrote:
> Things that the current list discussion doesn't easily give:
>
> - +1 kind of feedback, or simple agreement, tends to unexpressed:
>people only reply if they have a problem with things, and shut up
>otherwise.
>
>For
On 12 April 2020 22:43:31 BST, Ihor Antonov wrote:
>On Sunday, April 12, 2020 1:15:23 PM PDT Russ Allbery wrote:
>
>> 1. A database-driven discussion system that supports updates lets you
>go
>>beyond the moderation that you're worried about (rejecting
>messages)
>>and do other forms of
On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 06:55:25AM +0100, Marcin Kulisz wrote:
[Gigantic quote elided]
> This is not true, and this email is proof of this
What is "this", and then... what is "this"? And "this"?
One of the nicest things in (nearly lost) mails and usenet
culture is the right quoting style.
If
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