win32-loader (was: Re: Bug#856139: certspotter: long description advertises commercial service)

2017-08-12 Thread Didier 'OdyX' Raboud
Le samedi, 12 août 2017, 10.06:40 h EDT Christian Seiler a écrit : > win32-loader probably doesn't run on Wine or ReactOS (though I haven't > tried it, so I may be wrong here) - should that be in contrib if that's > the case? win32-loader runs fine on wine, for what is worth. It's also built entir

Re: Bug#856139: certspotter: long description advertises commercial service

2017-08-09 Thread Russ Allbery
Vincent Bernat writes: > As a sidenote, I strongly think I should just shut up. This kind of > discussions always lead nowhere and people just forget them. But... Yeah, I've been feeling the same way. But one message in support of this point, just to try to balance the expressed opinions a bit.

Re: Bug#856139: certspotter: long description advertises commercial service

2017-08-09 Thread Vincent Bernat
❦ 9 août 2017 19:57 GMT, "Dr. Bas Wijnen"  : > If the free options are limited to a point where it does not make sense to > recommend them to our users, that means the non-free service should be > recommended and IMO that means the program should be in contrib. As a sidenote, I strongly think I

Re: Bug#856139: certspotter: long description advertises commercial service

2017-08-09 Thread Dr. Bas Wijnen
On Tue, Aug 08, 2017 at 07:58:06AM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: > On Mon, 07 Aug 2017, Dr. Bas Wijnen wrote: > > Ah, that's good then! Still, I think its description has the same > > problem as certspotter, namely that it recommends the use of a > > non-free service. In Debian, I would prefer to see

Re: Bug#856139: certspotter: long description advertises commercial service

2017-08-08 Thread Don Armstrong
On Mon, 07 Aug 2017, Dr. Bas Wijnen wrote: > Ah, that's good then! Still, I think its description has the same > problem as certspotter, namely that it recommends the use of a > non-free service. In Debian, I would prefer to see a recommendation > for the free alternative, while the non-free altern

Re: Bug#856139: certspotter: long description advertises commercial service

2017-08-07 Thread Dr. Bas Wijnen
On Tue, Aug 08, 2017 at 02:25:51AM +0800, Shengjing Zhu wrote: > The description of s3cmd is outdated. It's *not* useless without AWS. > It can be used with self-hosted S3 protocol compatible service, such > as Ceph RGW, minio[1]. Both are free softwares, and Ceph is in our > main archive. Ah, tha

Re: Bug#856139: certspotter: long description advertises commercial service

2017-08-06 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Paul Wise (2017-08-05 09:38:45) > On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 2:03 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > > Am I alone in finding it wrong to promote commercial services in long > > descriptions of packages n Debian main? > > In general, I think we should avoid doing that. > > In this case, the adve

Re: Bug#856139: certspotter: long description advertises commercial service

2017-08-06 Thread Dr. Bas Wijnen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, Aug 05, 2017 at 09:38:45AM -0400, Paul Wise wrote: > > No, at worst this is misuse of Debian resources for commercial gain - > > i.e. using long description field for advertising a non-free service. > > I got the impression that Faidon is not

Re: Bug#856139: certspotter: long description advertises commercial service

2017-08-05 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 2:03 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > Am I alone in finding it wrong to promote commercial services in long > descriptions of packages n Debian main? In general, I think we should avoid doing that. In this case, the advertisement is also present on the upstream github page, v

Re: Bug#856139: certspotter: long description advertises commercial service

2017-08-04 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Dear fellow Debian developers, Am I alone in finding it wrong to promote commercial services in long descriptions of packages n Debian main? Quoting Faidon Liambotis (2017-08-04 13:57:10) > On Sat, Feb 25, 2017 at 03:53:13PM +0100, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > Long description includes a paragra