Re: python-central vs python-support

2006-06-04 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, Jun 04, 2006 at 03:44:03PM -0500, Joe Wreschnig wrote: > On Sun, 2006-06-04 at 20:56 +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > now you know a bit better the policy (or at least the generic idea, feel > > free to discuss details further), > No. After the previous thread I am still in the dark on:

Re: python-central vs python-support

2006-06-04 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Jun 05, 2006 at 12:24:19AM +0200, Marc Dequènes wrote: > >> 3) The tight upper bound on module dependencies will be removed, > >> provided the module actually works on future versions of Python. The > >> upper bound on extension dependencies will not, because then they > >> wouldn't work.

Re: python-central vs python-support

2006-06-04 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, Jun 04, 2006 at 11:44:00PM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: > > 4) python2.x-* virtual packages are to be used only when necessary, but > > packages can provide them regardless. > you don't know in advance, if they are necessary. Not a problem, if > they are generated. No, but they can be add

Re: python-central vs python-support

2006-06-04 Thread Gustavo Noronha Silva
Em Dom, 2006-06-04 às 20:56 +0200, Raphael Hertzog escreveu: > I agree with Matthias that it would be better to use only one "helper > tool" but I would favor python-support instead of python-central for the > reasons outlined below. Beware this is only *my* opinion. I'll gladly > follow the consen

Re: Thoughts on apps supporting multiple versions of python

2006-06-04 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, Jun 04, 2006 at 07:16:14PM +0200, Marc Dequènes wrote: > >> Let me reexplain the situation i was talking about with a little graph: > >> python-editobj (using python-support) > >>| > >> python2.3-soya (compiled) > >>| > >> python-ontopofsoya (using python-support) > >

Re: python-central vs python-support

2006-06-04 Thread Duck
Coin, Matthias Klose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > s/available/supported/. we will try to keep the number of supported > python versions/implementations minimal. Is there difference between available and supported versions ? What use for an official python package if it is not supported ? > Pl

Re: python-central vs python-support

2006-06-04 Thread Matthias Klose
Joe Wreschnig writes: > 1) Public modules and extensions should support all available Python > versions, using a single binary package. s/available/supported/. we will try to keep the number of supported python versions/implementations minimal. > 2) A new control field, XC-Python-Version will be

Re: python-central vs python-support

2006-06-04 Thread Joe Wreschnig
On Sun, 2006-06-04 at 23:05 +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > On Sun, 04 Jun 2006, Joe Wreschnig wrote: > > On Sun, 2006-06-04 at 20:56 +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > > > now you know a bit better the policy (or at least the generic idea, feel > > > free to discuss details furthe

Re: python-central vs python-support

2006-06-04 Thread Matthias Klose
Joe Wreschnig writes: > On Sun, 2006-06-04 at 20:56 +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > Hello, > > > > now you know a bit better the policy (or at least the generic idea, feel > > free to discuss details further), > > No. After the previous thread I am still in the dark on: > - Tight upper depende

Re: python-central vs python-support

2006-06-04 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hi, On Sun, 04 Jun 2006, Joe Wreschnig wrote: > On Sun, 2006-06-04 at 20:56 +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > Hello, > > > > now you know a bit better the policy (or at least the generic idea, feel > > free to discuss details further), > > No. After the previous thread I am still in the dark on:

Re: python-central vs python-support

2006-06-04 Thread Joe Wreschnig
On Sun, 2006-06-04 at 20:56 +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > Hello, > > now you know a bit better the policy (or at least the generic idea, feel > free to discuss details further), No. After the previous thread I am still in the dark on: - Tight upper dependencies. We you just incorrect, or are t

python-central vs python-support

2006-06-04 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hello, now you know a bit better the policy (or at least the generic idea, feel free to discuss details further), it's time to think about the implementation (for modules and extensions). References used: - python-support source package in Debian - python-central source package on http://people.d

Re: Thoughts on apps supporting multiple versions of python

2006-06-04 Thread Duck
Coin, Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Let me reexplain the situation i was talking about with a little graph: > >> python-editobj (using python-support) >>| >> python2.3-soya (compiled) >>| >> python-ontopofsoya (using python-support) >>| >> slune

Re: New python policy

2006-06-04 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Fri, 02 Jun 2006, Joe Wreschnig wrote: [Steve Langasek] > > Yes, this was also discussed in the BoF, with the same conclusion: because > > providing python2.x-foo can only be done safely if the package depends on > > the python2.x versions of all other modules it requires, making transitions > >