Re: Bug#785275: ITP: python-ipaddress -- Backport of the ipaddress module from Python 3.3

2015-05-14 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, May 14, 2015 06:55:40 AM Tristan Seligmann wrote: On 14 May 2015 at 06:04, Scott Kitterman deb...@kitterman.com wrote: Why can't python-cryptography use python-ipaddr that's already in the archive? cryptography is python2/3 dual-source. Carrying a Debian-specific patch[1

Re: Bug#785275: ITP: python-ipaddress -- Backport of the ipaddress module from Python 3.3

2015-05-13 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, May 14, 2015 05:42:56 AM Tristan Seligmann wrote: Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Tristan Seligmann mithra...@mithrandi.net * Package name: python-ipaddress Version : 1.0.7 Upstream Author : Philipp Hagemeister * URL :

Re: Sample DPMT SVN-GIT migration

2015-05-05 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tuesday, May 05, 2015 11:34:46 PM Jeremy Lainé wrote: Hi Stefano, Thanks for taking on the svn - git migration. From a practical point of view: where should we commit new changes? Is the migration considered done, or should we still commit to SVN? This was a sample migration. Still

Re: Sample DPMT SVN-GIT migration

2015-05-01 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Friday, May 01, 2015 10:37:08 PM Barry Warsaw wrote: On Apr 30, 2015, at 12:46 AM, Stefano Rivera wrote: Here's where I currently am (a migration of r32486): https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/python-modules/svn-migration/ I did a quick test of converting one of these repos to git-dpm. I

Re: Attempting to remove python-support?

2015-05-01 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Friday, May 01, 2015 01:28:43 PM Luca Falavigna wrote: 2015-04-26 18:26 GMT+02:00 Luca Falavigna dktrkr...@debian.org: Would it be better to start filing a MBF against the affected packages Is there consensus about this MBF? I'd like to work on it on the coming days, so please express

Re: Python packaging question (Python binaries)

2015-04-25 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Saturday, April 25, 2015 03:42:29 PM Tomasz Buchert wrote: Hi guys, I'm preparing a package for this library: https://bitbucket.org/bgneal/enigma/ It's rather trivial (see alioth:/git/collab-maint/python-enigma.git), but I have two questions that remain: * the library provides a

Re: Python 2, Python 3, Stretch Buster

2015-04-23 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, April 23, 2015 02:52:33 PM Enrico Zini wrote: On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 11:14:28AM -0400, Paul Tagliamonte wrote: So, round one of all of this is getting the critical path *under* each of our services ready, so that when we need to migrate, we don't need to scramble. There is

Re: Python 2, Python 3, Stretch Buster

2015-04-20 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Monday, April 20, 2015 12:04:14 PM Enrico Zini wrote: HOWEVER. I am the only person currently looking after all that code, and my development time on it is mostly spent fixing bugs and implementing the features that make it useful. See for example [1] and [2] for the kind of things that are

Re: Bits from the Debian PyCon Hangout - PyPy

2015-04-16 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, April 16, 2015 06:45:08 PM Stefano Rivera wrote: Hi Scott (2015.04.15_18:30:23_+0200) If we are sharing dist-packages, then pypy can probably use the same binary when the content would be the same. Only in cases where the content is different would you duplicate a separate

Re: Bits from the Debian PyCon Hangout - PyPy

2015-04-15 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday, April 15, 2015 04:54:45 PM Stefano Rivera wrote: Hi Scott (2015.04.15_02:17:18_+0200) Consensus seems to be give it a shot and try to see what works. There are no pypy apps, so this isn't an issue yet. What is the it that's to be given a shot? I see two choices there?

Re: Bits from the Debian PyCon Hangout - /usr/bin/python

2015-04-15 Thread Scott Kitterman
On April 15, 2015 11:17:52 AM EDT, Stefano Rivera stefa...@debian.org wrote: Hi Scott (2015.04.15_02:17:18_+0200) Upstream Python's direction for Python paths is in favor of explicitly numbered /usr/bin/python2 and /usr/bin/python3. In support of this, rough consensus in the room is that

Re: Bits from the Debian PyCon Hangout - PyPy

2015-04-15 Thread Scott Kitterman
On April 15, 2015 11:24:30 AM EDT, Stefano Rivera stefa...@debian.org wrote: Hi Scott (2015.04.15_17:19:39_+0200) Since these pypy extension packages are new and there are no applications, I think it would make a lot of sense to limit this to PY3. It makes things much simpler technically.

Re: Bits from the Debian PyCon Hangout - /usr/bin/python

2015-04-15 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday, April 15, 2015 02:16:58 PM Barry Warsaw wrote: On Apr 15, 2015, at 12:24 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: Maybe I'll mellow over time, but currently my thinking is that if there's an upload to point /usr/bin/python at a python3, it will be immediately followed by one where I remove

Re: Python 2 d-d-a proposal

2015-04-15 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday, April 15, 2015 04:27:51 PM Paul Tagliamonte wrote: Heyya d-p, I'd like to send an email to d-d-a asking that project to consider no longer creating new Debian tools in Python 2. I'd like this to have the endorsement of the team, so, does anyone object to me asking people to

Re: Bits from the Debian PyCon Hangout - /usr/bin/python

2015-04-15 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday, April 15, 2015 11:00:53 PM Stefano Rivera wrote: Hi Scott (2015.04.15_22:42:26_+0200) P.S. It would be nice if there would be a PEP that says to never ever do this. I know it would make Arch have a sad, but they'll get over it. I think everyone wants to make Arch sad. In

Re: Python 2 d-d-a proposal

2015-04-15 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday, April 15, 2015 11:07:13 PM Matthias Klose wrote: On 04/15/2015 10:27 PM, Paul Tagliamonte wrote: Heyya d-p, I'd like to send an email to d-d-a asking that project to consider no longer creating new Debian tools in Python 2. I'd like this to have the endorsement of the

Re: Bits from the Debian PyCon Hangout - /usr/bin/python

2015-04-15 Thread Scott Kitterman
of Python installed, 'python' refers to that whether it is Python 3 or 2. So it's already not a safe assumption that 'python' always means Python 2, even if you discount Arch. On 15 April 2015 at 21:04, Scott Kitterman skl...@kitterman.com wrote: On April 15, 2015 8:00:22 PM EDT, Barry Warsaw ba

Re: Bits from the Debian PyCon Hangout

2015-04-14 Thread Scott Kitterman
On April 14, 2015 6:01:56 PM EDT, Paul Tagliamonte paul...@debian.org wrote: === BITS FROM THE DEBIAN PYCON HANGOUT === Agenda: - Discuss how we might support multiple interpreters with Python 3 packages, for cpython + pypy C extensions. - Set up a plan for

Re: PyCon BoF: Stretch goals for cPython, PyPy CFFI

2015-04-14 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tuesday, April 14, 2015 09:22:22 AM Thomas Kluyver wrote: On 14 April 2015 at 08:57, Scott Kitterman deb...@kitterman.com wrote: I have scripts I use locally that are untouched in almost a decade that use /usr/bin/python. I'm thinking about scripts that are written and distributed

Re: PyCon BoF: Stretch goals for cPython, PyPy CFFI

2015-04-14 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tuesday, April 14, 2015 08:10:49 AM Barry Warsaw wrote: On Apr 14, 2015, at 12:38 AM, Scott Kitterman wrote: If you want python (which include /usr/bin/python), install it. If you want python3, then the interpreter you're looking for is found at /usr/bin/python3. I just don't want

Re: PyCon BoF: Stretch goals for cPython, PyPy CFFI

2015-04-14 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tuesday, April 14, 2015 08:24:01 AM Thomas Kluyver wrote: On 14 April 2015 at 08:10, Barry Warsaw ba...@python.org wrote: But it fails unhelpfully when you use it in a shebang. $ /tmp/foo.py bash: /tmp/foo.py: /usr/bin/python: bad interpreter: No such file or directory Let's

Re: PyCon BoF: Stretch goals for cPython, PyPy CFFI

2015-04-13 Thread Scott Kitterman
On April 13, 2015 4:30:59 PM EDT, Barry Warsaw ba...@debian.org wrote: On Apr 13, 2015, at 10:17 PM, Stefano Rivera wrote: Matthias and I are planning to have a Debian Python BoF at PyCon, tomorrow afternoon. I think lunch is 2pm, so 3pm? Meet outside the cPython sprint room? +1; +1 Matthias

Re: PyCon BoF: Stretch goals for cPython, PyPy CFFI

2015-04-13 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tuesday, April 14, 2015 01:57:26 AM Matthias Klose wrote: On 04/14/2015 01:20 AM, Scott Kitterman wrote: What is a /usr/bin/python launcher? #! /bin/sh python=$(shuffle /usr/bin/python2 /usr/bin/python3) exec $python $@ I agree it's not perfect, there should be a preference depending

Re: PyCon BoF: Stretch goals for cPython, PyPy CFFI

2015-04-13 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Monday, April 13, 2015 10:36:43 PM Barry Warsaw wrote: On Apr 14, 2015, at 01:57 AM, Matthias Klose wrote: #! /bin/sh python=$(shuffle /usr/bin/python2 /usr/bin/python3) exec $python $@ That was more or less the joke I made at the Pycon Language Summit. It's too twisted *not* to

Re: Fixing #744145, `pip install --user --upgrade requests` breaks pip

2015-02-25 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday, February 25, 2015 04:37:53 PM Barry Warsaw wrote: Debian bug #744145 (Ubuntu LP: #1363642) describes this failure: $ pip install --user --upgrade requests $ pip install --user --upgrade mistunes (well, any package will have the same effect for step #2) Quick recap:

Re: dh_python2 extension rename breaking module loading

2015-02-11 Thread Scott Kitterman
On February 11, 2015 10:04:50 AM EST, Michael Crusoe michael.cru...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I'm working on the packaging of the khmer project[0] with the debian-med team[1] and we've run into an odd problem: dh_python2 renames the Python extension shared library from `_khmermodule.so` to a

Bug#770785: unblock: python-gnutls/2.0.1-2

2014-11-23 Thread Scott Kitterman
for the bug report, the diagnosis, and + the initial version of the patch +- Note: Change is done inline to avoid adding a patch system during + freeze, so it does not appear in the DPMT svn + + -- Scott Kitterman sc...@kitterman.com Sun, 23 Nov 2014 20:34:20 -0500 + python-gnutls (2.0.1

Bug#770791: unblock: pisa/3.0.32-2

2014-11-23 Thread Scott Kitterman
+ fine patches, but the one used was the smaller change since Debian is in + pre-release freeze + + -- Scott Kitterman sc...@kitterman.com Sun, 23 Nov 2014 21:51:06 -0500 + pisa (3.0.32-1) unstable; urgency=low * Initial release (Closes: #504277). Thanks to Toby Smithe diff -u pisa

Re: How to solve #751375, file clash

2014-10-16 Thread Scott Kitterman
On October 16, 2014 5:49:37 PM EDT, Per Andersson avtob...@gmail.com wrote: Hi! A while ago I uploaded python-pies to the archive, a dependency for frosted which is also in the archive. One of the binary packages python-pies2overrides, has an important bug; it overwrites configparser.py, which

Re: Keeping upstream commits separate from Debian packaging commits

2014-10-12 Thread Scott Kitterman
On October 12, 2014 2:49:47 AM EDT, Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org wrote: On 10/10/2014 12:59 PM, Ben Finney wrote: Scott Kitterman deb...@kitterman.com writes: Changing the number of commits is solving the wrong problem. The problem that needs to be solved is including upstream commits

Re: Fighting commit storm madness (was: [Python-modules-commits] [python-mplexporter] 135/135: Merge pull request #30 from rainwoodman/patch-1)

2014-10-09 Thread Scott Kitterman
On October 9, 2014 5:36:02 AM EDT, Raphael Hertzog hert...@debian.org wrote: On Thu, 09 Oct 2014, W. Martin Borgert wrote: On 2014-10-09 10:02, Raphael Hertzog wrote: I fixed the default configuration in setup-repository to limit to 20 commits per push as a maximum. And I also limited the

Re: Fighting commit storm madness (was: [Python-modules-commits] [python-mplexporter] 135/135: Merge pull request #30 from rainwoodman/patch-1)

2014-10-09 Thread Scott Kitterman
On October 9, 2014 10:43:38 AM EDT, Barry Warsaw ba...@debian.org wrote: On Oct 09, 2014, at 10:19 AM, Scott Kitterman wrote: Upstream commits are off topic. Agreed. There's no reason why we need notifications of upstream commits, though I don't know if it's possible to filter them out. I'm

Re: Fighting commit storm madness (was: [Python-modules-commits] [python-mplexporter] 135/135: Merge pull request #30 from rainwoodman/patch-1)

2014-10-09 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Friday, October 10, 2014 00:22:42 Dimitri John Ledkov wrote: On 9 October 2014 20:57, Scott Kitterman deb...@kitterman.com wrote: On October 9, 2014 10:43:38 AM EDT, Barry Warsaw ba...@debian.org wrote: On Oct 09, 2014, at 10:19 AM, Scott Kitterman wrote: Upstream commits are off topic

Re: Fighting commit storm madness (was: [Python-modules-commits] [python-mplexporter] 135/135: Merge pull request #30 from rainwoodman/patch-1)

2014-10-09 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Friday, October 10, 2014 11:08:53 Chow Loong Jin wrote: On Thu, Oct 09, 2014 at 07:57:48PM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: [..] Presumably one is the one who set up the git repos. I, for another one, would really appreciate it if someone would take care of this. Don't they all share

Re: Fighting commit storm madness (was: [Python-modules-commits] [python-mplexporter] 135/135: Merge pull request #30 from rainwoodman/patch-1)

2014-10-09 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Friday, October 10, 2014 12:56:41 Charles Plessy wrote: Le Thu, Oct 09, 2014 at 11:41:47PM -0400, Scott Kitterman a écrit : On Friday, October 10, 2014 11:08:53 Chow Loong Jin wrote: On Thu, Oct 09, 2014 at 07:57:48PM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: [..] Presumably one is the one

Re: Fwd: [Python-modules-commits] [python-mplexporter] 135/135: Merge pull request #30 from rainwoodman/patch-1

2014-09-23 Thread Scott Kitterman
On September 23, 2014 6:46:58 PM EDT, Charles Plessy ple...@debian.org wrote: Le Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 10:29:10PM +0100, Sandro Tosi a écrit : Hi all, there's some people who's subscribed to the commit ml, so getting all the changes done to our repos. Now, with the transition to git we are

Re: git-dpm vs gbp-pq: new upstream and patch refresh (long)

2014-09-04 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, September 04, 2014 15:40:42 Barry Warsaw wrote: That gets you a source package, but the binary package FTBFS because one additional test cannot be run during the build process (there's a DEP-8 test for full coverage). Now though, you *must* commit or stash the d/changelog change.

Re: git-dpm vs gbp-pq: new upstream and patch refresh (long)

2014-09-04 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, September 04, 2014 16:05:53 Scott Kitterman wrote: On Thursday, September 04, 2014 15:40:42 Barry Warsaw wrote: That gets you a source package, but the binary package FTBFS because one additional test cannot be run during the build process (there's a DEP-8 test for full

Re: multiple deb packages from python program.

2014-08-30 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Saturday, August 30, 2014 09:44:30 Barry Warsaw wrote: On Aug 30, 2014, at 11:19 AM, Simon McVittie wrote: On 30/08/14 10:50, Cornelius Kölbel wrote: But now my originial program package is empty and does not contain the python code. It looks like only the .install scripts are run, but

Re: multiple deb packages from python program.

2014-08-30 Thread Scott Kitterman
On August 30, 2014 1:06:41 PM EDT, Barry Warsaw ba...@debian.org wrote: On Aug 30, 2014, at 12:57 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: I don't think that's the case for multiple binary packages. Hmm. An example is enum34, which has python-enum34, python3-enum34, and python-enum34-doc binary packages. I

Re: [Python-modules-team] Bug#756872: RM: gnupginterface -- ROM; No human maintainer left, dead upstream

2014-08-05 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Sunday, August 03, 2014 22:01:00 Dmitry Shachnev wrote: On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 7:06 PM, Barry Warsaw ba...@debian.org wrote: On Aug 02, 2014, at 06:23 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: If someone on the team is interested in this package staying in Debian and willing to be added to uploaders

Re: policy for source package names

2014-08-04 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tuesday, August 05, 2014 11:54:37 Ben Finney wrote: Vincent Cheng vch...@debian.org writes: […] just don't pick a source package name that's already taken, and pick one that is relevant to your package […] I further advise: Try to avoid names which are too broad (e.g. “coverage” for a

Re: [Python-modules-team] Bug#756872: RM: gnupginterface -- ROM; No human maintainer left, dead upstream

2014-08-02 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Saturday, August 02, 2014 17:09:55 Scott Kitterman wrote: Package: ftp.debian.org Severity: normal Both of the human maintainers/uploaders of gnupginterface are retired. See #698274 and #729385, leaving only the Debian Python Modules Team as an uploader. The package has gone almost 5

Bug#755355: lintian: New check for use of pyqtconfig

2014-07-19 Thread Scott Kitterman
Package: lintian Version: 2.5.25 Severity: wishlist For applications that use python-qt4, pyqtconfig has been the standard way to access attributes about the PyQt4 installation. Upstream has decided to drop this for alternate methodes. For now, we can continue to use the upstream legacy

Re: python-wheel backport to Wheezy

2014-07-13 Thread Scott Kitterman
On July 13, 2014 6:00:58 AM EDT, Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org wrote: Hi, There's more and more packages in Sid which requires python-wheel. I was wondering if it was possible to do a backport of it. It seems very likely, because the setup.py is handling old stuff like Python prior 2.7. Many

Re: python-wheel backport to Wheezy

2014-07-13 Thread Scott Kitterman
On July 14, 2014 1:35:51 AM EDT, Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org wrote: On 07/13/2014 07:08 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: On July 13, 2014 6:00:58 AM EDT, Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org wrote: Hi, There's more and more packages in Sid which requires python-wheel. I was wondering

python3.3 removed

2014-06-20 Thread Scott Kitterman
python3.3 will be gone from Unstable as of the next dinstall. Thanks for everyone that helped out. Scott K -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-python-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive:

Re: conflict python-captcha vs django-captcha

2014-06-19 Thread Scott Kitterman
This isn't necessarily fatal. See python-dnspython (provides the dns module) and python-dns (provides the DNS module). Sine python-captcha is already used, I'd recommend picking an alternate name for your package. Since python module names are case sensitive, this thing can happen and we

Re: New version of pyparsing, 2.0.2

2014-06-02 Thread Scott Kitterman
On June 2, 2014 3:06:15 PM MDT, Matt Grant m...@mattgrant.net.nz wrote: Hi Torsten! I can get an NMU for PyParsing done as I am a DPMT member. Any Objections on the list? Regards, Matt Grant On Mon, 2014-06-02 at 21:28 +0200, Torsten Marek wrote: I'm sorry but I'm not active in Debian any

Re: Proposed changes to python-virtualenv

2014-05-29 Thread Scott Kitterman
On May 29, 2014 7:54:53 PM EDT, Barry Warsaw ba...@debian.org wrote: I'm looking again at updating tox to the latest upstream 1.7.1. Along the way, I'd like to make /usr/bin/tox a Python 3 script. This requires that virtualenv be importable, e.g. `$python -m virtualenv`. It is today in Python 2

Re: Proposed changes to python-virtualenv

2014-05-29 Thread Scott Kitterman
On May 29, 2014 8:27:07 PM EDT, Donald Stufft don...@stufft.io wrote: On May 29, 2014, at 8:15 PM, Scott Kitterman deb...@kitterman.com wrote: On May 29, 2014 7:54:53 PM EDT, Barry Warsaw ba...@debian.org wrote: I'm looking again at updating tox to the latest upstream 1.7.1. Along the way

Python3.4 is default python3

2014-05-27 Thread Scott Kitterman
The release team gave the go ahead today to make 3.4 the default, so that's done. There are a few binNMUs to do (See #746709 for details). Is anyone aware of anything that would prevent dropping python3.3 from supported versions as soon as this transition is done? Scott K signature.asc

Re: wheel support for Debian?

2014-05-19 Thread Scott Kitterman
On May 19, 2014 9:55:22 AM EDT, Barry Warsaw ba...@debian.org wrote: On May 19, 2014, at 12:19 PM, Piotr Ożarowski wrote: ... * I don't think we should force maintainers to do changes in their packages if it's not really needed, (not to mention additional work for ftpmasters) The additional

Re: Proposed policy change to define but discourage Python wheels in Debian

2014-05-16 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Friday, May 16, 2014 11:28:45 Barry Warsaw wrote: Here is the diff I propose to Debian Python policy, describing our policy on packaging wheels. Cheers, -Barry === modified file 'debian/python-policy.sgml' --- debian/python-policy.sgml 2014-05-12 10:21:25 + +++

Re: Proposed policy change to define but discourage Python wheels in Debian

2014-05-16 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Friday, May 16, 2014 14:09:26 Barry Warsaw wrote: Second draft. -Barry === modified file 'debian/python-policy.sgml' --- debian/python-policy.sgml 2014-05-12 10:21:25 + +++ debian/python-policy.sgml 2014-05-16 18:08:52 + @@ -32,7 +32,11 @@ nameScott Kitterman/name

Re: wheel support for Debian?

2014-05-15 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, May 15, 2014 18:32:01 Barry Warsaw wrote: My thoughts... On May 16, 2014, at 12:07 AM, Matthias Klose wrote: - should we add wheels everywhere? I don't think we should, but I'd like to state this somewhere, like in the python policy. Agreed, we should not add wheels

Switch to python3.4 as default python3 imminent

2014-05-09 Thread Scott Kitterman
Based on discussions with the release team, I think we'll be able to do this next week (assuming the sip-api transition that just started goes well). blender will need an upload and python-astropy is broken and will remain broken until upstream fixes it. Are there any other issues people know

Re: favouring Python3 in the Debian policy

2014-05-07 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday, May 07, 2014 11:27:20 Barry Warsaw wrote: Should we also update Appendix B to promote --buildsystem=pybuild or at least reference it? It's a reasonably safe bet that almost anything needs update. Scott K -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-python-requ...@lists.debian.org with a

Re: python-docker

2014-05-05 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Monday, May 05, 2014 17:20:09 Paul Tagliamonte wrote: On Mon, May 05, 2014 at 09:18:57PM +, Tianon Gravi wrote: Hi! :) I'm part of the docker-maint team (which is listed in Uploaders on python-docker), and I'm interested in joining DPMT to help Paul maintain and update

Re: Getting rid of python-support?

2014-05-01 Thread Scott Kitterman
On April 30, 2014 1:15:42 PM EDT, Dimitri John Ledkov x...@debian.org wrote: On 30 April 2014 18:01, Matthias Klose d...@debian.org wrote: Am 30.04.2014 17:31, schrieb Luca Falavigna: Hi, python-central is gone (\o/) and python-support usage is slowly decreasing in the archive:

Re: Getting rid of python-support?

2014-04-30 Thread Scott Kitterman
On April 30, 2014 11:31:55 AM EDT, Luca Falavigna dktrkr...@debian.org wrote: Hi, python-central is gone (\o/) and python-support usage is slowly decreasing in the archive: http://lintian.debian.org/tags/dh_pysupport-is-obsolete.html Do you think it would be the right time to prepare a mass bug

Re: ‘dh’ invoking Python 2 ‘pyversions’ in a Python 3-only package

2014-03-30 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Sunday, March 30, 2014 17:01:05 Ben Finney wrote: Howdy all, I'm attempting to build a Python 3-only package, but ‘dh’ insists on trying to find some Python 2 versions. The ‘debian/control’ contains a “X-Python3-Versions” field, and does not contain any “X-Python-Versions” field. This

Re: Python 3.4 and ensurepip (rehashed, long)

2014-03-25 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tuesday, March 25, 2014 15:29:06 Barry Warsaw wrote: On Mar 25, 2014, at 03:19 PM, Donald Stufft wrote: I assume once someone has installed pip with apt-get they’d still be able to run pip install —upgrade pip if they wanted too? I would think they should be able to do that. If I've

Re: Python 3.4 and ensurepip (rehashed, long)

2014-03-21 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday, March 19, 2014 17:40:51 Barry Warsaw wrote: Signed by ba...@warsaw.us.Show Details TL;DR: Let's re-enable the ensurepip module in Python 3.4, and possibly address some usability issues. We should descend en masse on Montreal and stage a revolt at Pycon. :) Python 3.4

Re: Request for join the team

2014-03-05 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday, March 05, 2014 18:28:56 Sandro Knauß wrote: Hello, I'm interested to join the team with my alioth account (hefee-guest). I want to package python-srs within this team. Scott K. has agreed to sponser me. Sounds good. Ive accepted your request. Welcome, Scott K signature.asc

Re: ABI change that causes PyQwt and PyQwt3d to segfault

2014-01-08 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday, January 08, 2014 23:22:40 Gudjon I. Gudjonsson wrote: Hi list I got a bug report regarding PyQwt (see below). Once again it segfaults and when I test PyQwt3d it segfaults as well. The problem is fixed by a new upload but my problem is that I cannot request a binNMU unless

Re: Will rtupdate be used for python 2 -- python 3 transition?

2013-10-30 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday, October 30, 2013 09:57:36 Barry Warsaw wrote: On Oct 30, 2013, at 10:04 AM, Dmitry Shachnev wrote: Not before python2.7 is removed from the archive. See previous discussions on this ML, i.e. this thread: http://lists.debian.org/debian-python/2013/07/msg00049.html. The other

Re: Using ‘export http_proxy = http://127.0.9.1:9/’ to fail noisily on dependency problems

2013-10-11 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Saturday, October 12, 2013 11:26:28 Thomas Goirand wrote: On 10/12/2013 01:26 AM, Barry Warsaw wrote: On Oct 11, 2013, at 07:23 PM, Julian Taylor wrote: It is better if one disables internet access of package builds completely. With pbuilder and iptables this is very easy, just run

Re: Program shebang line with specific ‘/usr/bin/pythonX.Y’ interpreter (was: Bug#635476: current packaging work for Coverage)

2013-10-10 Thread Scott Kitterman
Ben Finney ben+deb...@benfinney.id.au wrote: Dmitry Shachnev mity...@gmail.com writes: In your particular case, python3-coverage depends on 'python3 ( 3.4), python3 (= 3.3)', so when it is installed /usr/bin/python3 will be always a link to python3.3, so the shebang doesn't matter here. But

Re: PEP 453 affects Debian packaging of Python packages

2013-09-20 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Friday, September 20, 2013 15:44:05 Thomas Kluyver wrote: On 20 September 2013 12:08, Paul Tagliamonte paul...@debian.org wrote: Don't take this as me trashing on Python or Pythonistas. If you want to talk about this in person, I'm usually at PyCon. I'm also usually in the packaging

Re: PEP 453 affects Debian packaging of Python packages

2013-09-19 Thread Scott Kitterman
Paul Tagliamonte paul...@debian.org wrote: On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 05:16:22PM +1000, Ben Finney wrote: Howdy all, Over at the ‘python-dev’ forum, PEP 453 is being discussed. This affects Debian packaging of Python, and packages written for Python. See the discussion thread and take the

Re: PEP 453 affects Debian packaging of Python packages

2013-09-18 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday, September 18, 2013 17:16:22 Ben Finney wrote: Howdy all, Over at the ‘python-dev’ forum, PEP 453 is being discussed. This affects Debian packaging of Python, and packages written for Python. See the discussion thread and take the opportunity to represent Debian

Re: PEP 453 affects Debian packaging of Python packages

2013-09-18 Thread Scott Kitterman
Paul Tagliamonte paul...@debian.org wrote: On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 03:22:19PM +0200, Piotr Ożarowski wrote: [W. Martin Borgert, 2013-09-18] As a passionate pip hater I would go for a Conflicts, which finally would make pip uninstallable :~) Next steps: get rid of gem, npm, EPT, ... +1

Re: PEP 453 affects Debian packaging of Python packages

2013-09-18 Thread Scott Kitterman
Paul Wise p...@debian.org wrote: On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 4:33 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: P.S. I'm not nominating myself to be the diplomat that talks to upstream for what are probably obvious reasons. Too late, upstream folks (for eg Barry Warsaw) are on this list, are DDs and are part

Re: PEP 453 affects Debian packaging of Python packages

2013-09-18 Thread Scott Kitterman
Paul Tagliamonte paul...@debian.org wrote: On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 05:41:52PM +0200, Piotr Ożarowski wrote: ok, I forgot to add ;), but... Sure, but let's be more careful - I don't want people quoting Debian Python people telling people they're going to purge pip from the archive... It's all

Re: PEP 453 affects Debian packaging of Python packages

2013-09-18 Thread Scott Kitterman
Paul Tagliamonte paul...@debian.org wrote: On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 10:57:30PM +0200, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 3:36 PM, Paul Tagliamonte paul...@debian.org wrote: 4) Python modules from dpkg are borderline useless for developers. We package modules so that

Re: Please install /usr/bin/python2

2013-09-15 Thread Scott Kitterman
Kerrick Staley kerr...@kerrickstaley.com wrote: Scott, I booted up a CentOS 6.4 VM, and the symlink is there (runs python2.6). I'd be interested to know if there are any other systems where it's unavailable though. OK. I think that convinces me it's widely enough spread we ought to fix this

Re: Please install /usr/bin/python2

2013-09-15 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Sunday, September 15, 2013 14:34:27 Scott Kitterman wrote: Kerrick Staley kerr...@kerrickstaley.com wrote: Scott, I booted up a CentOS 6.4 VM, and the symlink is there (runs python2.6). I'd be interested to know if there are any other systems where it's unavailable though. OK. I think

Re: Please install /usr/bin/python2

2013-09-14 Thread Scott Kitterman
Kerrick Staley kerr...@kerrickstaley.com wrote: Thanks! The upstream recommendation (from PEP 394 [1]) is that, going forward, portable scripts *can't* assume python is python2, and *should* use python2. - Kerrick [1] http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0394/ I'm very familiar with it. Now

Re: Please install /usr/bin/python2

2013-09-14 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 9:25 AM, Scott Kitterman deb...@kitterman.comwrote: Kerrick Staley kerr...@kerrickstaley.com wrote: Thanks! The upstream recommendation (from PEP 394 [1]) is that, going forward, portable scripts *can't* assume python is python2, and *should* use python2

Re: Please install /usr/bin/python2

2013-09-13 Thread Scott Kitterman
Kerrick Staley kerr...@kerrickstaley.com wrote: Please install /usr/bin/python2 as part of the default Debian install. It still doesn't exist on 7.1, which prevents scripts with a shebang of #!/usr/bin/python2 from running. Note that the following matters (which have derailed previous threads

Re: Request to join DPMT

2013-08-21 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday, August 21, 2013 21:25:41 Diane Trout wrote: Hi, I wanted to help maintain python-lightblue which was currently up for adoption. I also submitted python-htseq a little while ago through the debian- med team. My day job is as a python programmer/systems administrator at a

Re: dh-python in unstable

2013-08-05 Thread Scott Kitterman
Stefano Rivera stefa...@debian.org wrote: Hi Dmitrijs (2013.08.05_00:05:50_+0200) pypy published a release with python3 support I'm not entirely sure how to handle pypy3 yet... pypy3 will be able to share /usr/lib/python3/dist-packages, which probably means single binary packages for both

Re: python3.3 status

2013-08-05 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Friday, August 02, 2013 09:13:56 Scott Kitterman wrote: python3.3 is the default python3. We're going straight to dropping python3.2 from supported python3 versions. binNMUs were already done for morse- simulator,postgresql-9.1,yafaray,and znc after python3.3 became default. These issues

Re: python3.3 status

2013-08-02 Thread Scott Kitterman
python3.3 is the default python3. We're going straight to dropping python3.2 from supported python3 versions. binNMUs were already done for morse- simulator,postgresql-9.1,yafaray,and znc after python3.3 became default. These issues still remain: libguestfs - No longer FTBFS on amd64, but

Re: django-ajax-selects

2013-07-30 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tuesday, July 30, 2013 16:15:58 Brian May wrote: On 30 July 2013 15:52, Scott Kitterman deb...@kitterman.com wrote: The package name is incorrect. Per the python policy, the binary name should be python-ajax-select. That's the module name. Really? I thought it was based

Re: django-ajax-selects

2013-07-29 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tuesday, July 30, 2013 09:37:21 Brian May wrote: x: python-django-ajax-selects: incorrect-package-name python-ajax-select I don't know where it is getting the python-ajax-select name from. If I don't get any responses here, I will assume my package is fine. Where is the package? Scott

Re: django-ajax-selects

2013-07-29 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tuesday, July 30, 2013 11:19:58 Brian May wrote: On 30 July 2013 11:15, Scott Kitterman deb...@kitterman.com wrote: Where is the package? The source is on subversion: svn+ssh:// svn.debian.org/svn/python-modules/packages/django-ajax-selects/trunk http://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc

Re: PEP 394 and shebang lines for /usr/bin/python2 scripts

2013-07-24 Thread Scott Kitterman
Jakub Wilk jw...@debian.org wrote: * Barry Warsaw ba...@debian.org, 2013-07-24, 12:38: In any case, it's come up that PEP 394 recommends distros start adopting shebang lines that state /usr/bin/python2 in their scripts, and I don't think we do this yet. We should! We absolutely should not.

Re: PEP 394 and shebang lines for /usr/bin/python2 scripts

2013-07-24 Thread Scott Kitterman
Barry Warsaw ba...@debian.org wrote: On Jul 24, 2013, at 01:32 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: Jakub Wilk jw...@debian.org wrote: * Barry Warsaw ba...@debian.org, 2013-07-24, 12:38: In any case, it's come up that PEP 394 recommends distros start adopting shebang lines that state /usr/bin/python2

Re: PEP 394 and shebang lines for /usr/bin/python2 scripts

2013-07-24 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday, July 24, 2013 07:09:26 PM Barry Warsaw wrote: Alright, I obviously haven't convinced anybody, so I'll drop it. We'll let the PEP 394 bug reports speak for themselves wink. But the responses I've read so far make me think I probably wasn't clear in what I am proposing. On Jul

Re: python3.3 status

2013-07-14 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Saturday, July 06, 2013 10:22:22 PM Scott Kitterman wrote: On Wednesday, July 03, 2013 01:55:07 PM Scott Kitterman wrote: On Friday, June 21, 2013 01:30:00 AM Scott Kitterman wrote: On Wednesday, June 19, 2013 12:53:40 AM Scott Kitterman wrote: Here's a further update on packages

Re: Inconsistency in source package naming for python modules

2013-07-10 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, July 11, 2013 12:30:54 AM Stuart Prescott wrote: Thomas Goirand wrote: On 07/08/2013 10:10 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: There is no policy on this either way, so there's no mistake. Well, the mistake is precisely to have no rule, IMO. Rules for packaging things are normally

Re: python3.3 status

2013-07-03 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Friday, June 21, 2013 01:30:00 AM Scott Kitterman wrote: On Wednesday, June 19, 2013 12:53:40 AM Scott Kitterman wrote: Here's a further update on packages pertaining to the 3.3 transition: libguestfs - No longer FTBFS on amd64, but does on i386, #710545, now builds for all python3

Re: python3.3 status

2013-07-03 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday, July 03, 2013 02:04:08 PM Barry Warsaw wrote: On Jul 03, 2013, at 01:55 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: Looking at where we are now, the open issues are down to #711761 and #711761. Don't forget #711761 and #711761. :) Meh. #710545. Scott K I don't think they are enough

Re: python3.3 status

2013-07-03 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday, July 03, 2013 06:15:11 PM PICCA Frédéric-Emmanuel wrote: Looking at where we are now, the open issues are down to #711761 and #711761. To my opinion, (I am the maintainer of pytango) this is not a problem if pytango is not available on s390. I forwarded the bug to the upstream

Re: Requesting non -guest account on Alioth

2013-06-28 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Friday, June 28, 2013 09:08:33 PM Jakub Wilk wrote: * Barry Warsaw ba...@debian.org, 2013-06-28, 11:46: Could the project admins for DPMT and PAPT please add my non-guest account? Done for DPMT. Done for PAPT. Scott K -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-python-requ...@lists.debian.org

Re: Introducing myself

2013-06-23 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Sunday, June 23, 2013 07:21:53 PM Jakub Wilk wrote: * Etienne Millon etienne.mil...@gmail.com, 2013-06-23, 14:57: What is the preferred method: update the TODO page[2], post a RFS on the list, I prefer e-mails, but I don't sponsor much, and other sponsors/reviewers preferences may vary.

Re: python3.3 status

2013-06-20 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday, June 19, 2013 12:53:40 AM Scott Kitterman wrote: Here's a further update on packages pertaining to the 3.3 transition: libguestfs - No longer FTBFS on amd64, but does on i386, #710545, now builds for all python3 versions nuitka FTBFS unrepoducible pyepr builds successfully

Re: django-tables package

2013-06-18 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday, June 19, 2013 01:57:47 PM Brian May wrote: Hello, Can I please get somebody to review my django-tables package before I upload to Debian? I copied the updates from my django-filter package. Code is at

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