Re: python3.3 status

2013-06-18 Thread Scott Kitterman
Here's a further update on packages pertaining to the 3.3 transition: boost1.49 Fixed flufl.bounce builds now that zope.interface is updated hivex FTBFS fixed, dependencies fixed, nothing further to do. libguestfs - No longer FTBFS on amd64, but does on i386, #710545, now builds for all python3

Re: django-tables package

2013-06-18 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday, June 19, 2013 02:47:44 PM Brian May wrote: On 19 June 2013 14:33, Scott Kitterman deb...@kitterman.com wrote: Patch to use the installed copy. I had to do this once before. How do I do this? I don't see any references to objects.inv in the upstream source code for django

Re: python3.3 status

2013-06-13 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday, June 12, 2013 03:13:38 PM Scott Kitterman wrote: On Wednesday, June 12, 2013 12:48:45 AM Scott Kitterman wrote: On Thursday, June 06, 2013 12:46:05 PM Scott Kitterman wrote: More updates and added all the unknown packages from the transition tracker. Items marked as fixed

Re: python3.3 status

2013-06-12 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday, June 12, 2013 12:48:45 AM Scott Kitterman wrote: On Thursday, June 06, 2013 12:46:05 PM Scott Kitterman wrote: More updates and added all the unknown packages from the transition tracker. Items marked as fixed in the last update have been removed. On Thursday, May 23, 2013

Re: python3.3 status

2013-06-11 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, June 06, 2013 12:46:05 PM Scott Kitterman wrote: Here's another update based on work I've done, noticed other people did, or responses to the last one of these I sent. It does not include work which I neither notice nor people told me about. Items marked as fixed in the last

Re: python3.3 status

2013-06-06 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, May 23, 2013 06:19:06 PM Scott Kitterman wrote: I've been working on this a bit ... On Tuesday, May 07, 2013 02:01:26 PM Jakub Wilk wrote: python3-defaults maintainer(s?) decided to make python3.3 a supported version without prior notice. Yay. Now we have dozens of packages

Re: python3.3 status

2013-05-23 Thread Scott Kitterman
I've been working on this a bit ... On Tuesday, May 07, 2013 02:01:26 PM Jakub Wilk wrote: python3-defaults maintainer(s?) decided to make python3.3 a supported version without prior notice. Yay. Now we have dozens of packages failing to build: boost1.49 FTBFS TODO boost1.50 FTBFS TODO

Re: Typo in Python Policy

2013-05-21 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tuesday, May 21, 2013 11:05:30 PM Reuben Thomas wrote: Near the start of Chapter 1, Section 1.1: implmentation → implementation Checked against 0.9.4.2. Fixed in the VCS for the next python-defaults upload. Thanks, Scott K -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Bug#708573: trac-accountmanager: Please remove Python Applications Packaging Team as maintainer

2013-05-17 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Friday, May 17, 2013 10:53:39 AM Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote: On 05/17/2013 08:22 AM, W. Martin Borgert wrote: Quoting Scott Kitterman deb...@kitterman.com: Package: trac-accountmanager ... Since the package has been removed from the PAPT repository, please remove PAPT

Re: Bug#708573: trac-accountmanager: Please remove Python Applications Packaging Team as maintainer

2013-05-17 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Friday, May 17, 2013 01:33:38 PM Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote: On 05/17/2013 01:20 PM, Thomas Kluyver wrote: This came up recently on debian-python. It's a very long thread, but the basic outcome was that, while quite a few people wanted to move away from svn, there was very little

Re: Bug#708573: trac-accountmanager: Please remove Python Applications Packaging Team as maintainer

2013-05-17 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Friday, May 17, 2013 01:50:09 PM Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote: On 05/17/2013 01:40 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: If the team moves to full source git archives, I'll just drop the team from all the packages I maintain. Scott K P.S. See, now the fun begins. fun, indeed. it sounds

Re: Bug#708573: trac-accountmanager: Please remove Python Applications Packaging Team as maintainer

2013-05-17 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Friday, May 17, 2013 02:13:10 PM Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote: On 05/17/2013 01:55 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: You misunderstand. I don't think i misunderstood at all. I'm all for having a good common environment for the team to work on. I happen to think you suggested just about

Re: Accepted python-defaults 2.7.3-5 (source all)

2013-05-06 Thread Scott Kitterman
Do you object to the dropping of 2.6 or just the lack of discussion before it was done? Scott K On Monday, May 06, 2013 09:29:11 AM Sandro Tosi wrote: Hello, has this been discussed *and* agreed on? I can only see Luca's mail for python plans, but no ack from other members of the debian

Re: About canonical Vcs fields

2013-03-14 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, March 14, 2013 05:56:47 PM Dmitry Shachnev wrote: Hi, We discussed new lintian vcs-field-not-canonical check in IRC last week, which affects *lots* of packages in our SVN (see [¹]). Now people are recommended to use `svn://anonscm.debian.org/*` URIs instead of

Re: How does team maintenace of python module works?

2013-02-22 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Friday, February 22, 2013 03:14:30 PM Thomas Goirand wrote: ... The problem is that with SVN, it takes so much time and space (as each tag will generate some files), so you might have been fooled into thinking it would also with Git. But the reality simply not that at all. ... I almost

Re: Packaging applications with extensions modules

2013-02-22 Thread Scott Kitterman
Stefano Rivera stefa...@debian.org wrote: Hi Jakub (2013.02.22_23:48:24_+0200) * Stefano Rivera stefa...@debian.org, 2013-02-22, 23:31: * you can ship extensions for more than one 3.x version in the same private directory, thanks to tags Does dh_python3 support such setup? (I would be

Re: Packaging applications with extensions modules

2013-02-22 Thread Scott Kitterman
Stefano Rivera stefa...@debian.org wrote: Hi Scott (2013.02.23_00:17:30_+0200) * you can ship extensions for more than one 3.x version in the same private directory, thanks to tags Does dh_python3 support such setup? (I would be very surprised if it did.) You have a point. That'd be

Re: Packaging applications with extensions modules

2013-02-22 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Saturday, February 23, 2013 12:24:16 AM Jakub Wilk wrote: * Scott Kitterman deb...@kitterman.com, 2013-02-22, 17:56: * you can ship extensions for more than one 3.x version in the same private directory, thanks to tags Does dh_python3 support such setup? (I would be very surprised

Re: How does team maintenace of python module works?

2013-02-20 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday, February 20, 2013 04:34:05 PM Thomas Goirand wrote: On 02/20/2013 12:41 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: This all seems to assume full source branches which is not something I'm interested in participating in at all. I've tried it and I find it very difficult to work

Re: How does team maintenace of python module works?

2013-02-20 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday, February 20, 2013 10:14:26 PM Thomas Goirand wrote: Upstream tarballs, in some cases, is a concept of the past. When they are released (sometimes, they simply don't exist), it may only an image based on a git tag. Then using Git tags is often better, because tags may be PGP

Re: How does team maintenace of python module works?

2013-02-20 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday, February 20, 2013 11:23:44 PM Thomas Goirand wrote: On 02/20/2013 10:43 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: First, full source repositories are much larger than debian only repositories. I don't have a full checkout of all team packages locally, so that means if I'm going to touch

Re: How does team maintenace of python module works?

2013-02-20 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, February 21, 2013 11:12:58 AM Chow Loong Jin wrote: On 21/02/2013 01:59, Scott Kitterman wrote: I've done the boring bits enough that my fingers mostly do them without much attention from my brain. If I were going to abandon my current approach, I'd have to see significant

Re: How does team maintenace of python module works?

2013-02-20 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, February 21, 2013 11:08:13 AM Chow Loong Jin wrote: ... That argument applies to any VCS that you don't use on a daily basis. You use bzr on a daily basis and forget how to use git. I use git on a daily basis and forget how to use svn/bzr and have to relearn it any time someone

Re: How does team maintenace of python module works?

2013-02-20 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, February 21, 2013 12:08:45 PM Chow Loong Jin wrote: On 21/02/2013 11:58, Scott Kitterman wrote: On Thursday, February 21, 2013 11:12:58 AM Chow Loong Jin wrote: On 21/02/2013 01:59, Scott Kitterman wrote: I've done the boring bits enough that my fingers mostly do them without

Re: How does team maintenace of python module works?

2013-02-20 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday, February 20, 2013 11:46:31 PM Barry Warsaw wrote: At least with git, you know when you've rewritten history -- you're no longer on the same commit. #9 on Steve Bennett's list is right on target IMHO, but I've had this discussion so many times before, I don't have much energy

Re: How does team maintenace of python module works?

2013-02-20 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, February 21, 2013 03:00:56 PM Charles Plessy wrote: Le Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 11:02:15PM -0500, Scott Kitterman a écrit : On Thursday, February 21, 2013 11:08:13 AM Chow Loong Jin wrote: ... That argument applies to any VCS that you don't use on a daily basis. You use

Re: How does team maintenace of python module works?

2013-02-20 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, February 21, 2013 01:52:59 PM Chow Loong Jin wrote: (Re-posted back on list. Sorry ScottK.) On 21/02/2013 12:37, Scott Kitterman wrote: With git (I've never used gpb, and maybe that's my problem) I end up having to do things like: git clone git://git.debian.org/….git

Re: How does team maintenace of python module works?

2013-02-20 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, February 21, 2013 02:02:09 PM Chow Loong Jin wrote: On 21/02/2013 12:46, Barry Warsaw wrote: #9 on Steve Bennett's list is right on target IMHO, but I've had this discussion so many times before, I don't have much energy for it again. 9. Git history is a bunch of lies

Re: How does team maintenace of python module works?

2013-02-19 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tuesday, February 19, 2013 05:20:48 PM Barry Warsaw wrote: On Feb 19, 2013, at 09:42 PM, Thomas Kluyver wrote: After that it gets tricky, because we'd knock E out next, but the I'm not sure where the votes counted for E (Scott Barry) should be reallocated. If it makes things easier, I am

Re: How does team maintenace of python module works?

2013-02-19 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday, February 20, 2013 12:23:02 PM Thomas Goirand wrote: The idea to use git archive was mostly from Julien Danjou. It's very nice because that way, we can use xz compression, instead of what upstream provides (that is, github .zip or .tar.gz, which isn't the best). See devref 6.7.8.

Re: How does team maintenace of python module works?

2013-02-19 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday, February 20, 2013 12:23:02 PM Thomas Goirand wrote: On 02/20/2013 06:20 AM, Barry Warsaw wrote: * Figure out whether full-source or debian/ only works better (maybe give us both repos so we can play with them and discuss the pros and cons from actual working examples).

Re: How does team maintenace of python module works?

2013-02-16 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Saturday, February 16, 2013 12:43:02 PM Thomas Kluyver wrote: On 16 February 2013 09:10, Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org wrote: It would be really stupid to only want to claim to be working as part of the team, that's not at all what I want to do. I'd like to be able to help when I can,

Re: How does team maintenace of python module works?

2013-02-16 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Sunday, February 17, 2013 10:35:01 AM Robert Collins wrote: On 17 February 2013 08:29, Dmitrijs Ledkovs x...@debian.org wrote: On 16 February 2013 14:27, Jakub Wilk jw...@debian.org wrote: * Scott Kitterman deb...@kitterman.com, 2013-02-16, 09:10: On Saturday, February 16, 2013 12:43:02

Re: How does team maintenace of python module works?

2013-02-14 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, February 14, 2013 04:53:23 PM Barry Warsaw wrote: On Feb 14, 2013, at 08:54 PM, Thomas Kluyver wrote: I don't think it's a particularly good example, though. Lots of packages continue to use the older helpers, and not due to a lack of time - attempts to move away from the

Re: PIL/python-imaging becomes a python package and gets Python3 support

2013-02-11 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Monday, February 11, 2013 05:05:23 PM Piotr Ożarowski wrote: [Barry Warsaw, 2013-02-11] On Feb 11, 2013, at 03:51 PM, Piotr Ożarowski wrote: I'd also use python-pil and let python-imaging contain the compat code (with Depends: python-pil) Do you mean, get rid of the -compat

Re: pybuild - one to rule^W build them all

2013-01-20 Thread Scott Kitterman
Piotr Ożarowski pi...@debian.org wrote: [Yaroslav Halchenko, 2013-01-20] ... wouldn't it make more sense to ship it in a separate package since it is relevant not only for python3? then it would also make possible to provide backport packages yes, it makes sense. We already talked about it

python3-defaults-3.3.0-1 in Experimental

2012-11-26 Thread Scott Kitterman
I've just uploaded a version of python3-defaults to experimental to support testing with python3.3 and with Piotr's new pybuild script (still definitely experimental). Here are the significant changelog entries: * Add Python 3.3 to the list of supported Python 3 versions and make it a

Re: pyxs review

2012-11-09 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Friday, November 09, 2012 01:32:53 PM Thomas Kluyver wrote: On 9 November 2012 12:44, Maykel Moya mm...@mmoya.org wrote: Even in the case of the more restrictive license applying only to debian/* work? Could you/someone elaborate a little the implications of this (link to fine

Re: Join request

2012-10-16 Thread Scott Kitterman
Jakub Wilk jw...@debian.org wrote: * Raúl Benencia r...@kalgan.cc, 2012-10-15, 19:41: I would very much like to join the Debian Python team. I've a bit of experience packaging and programming python apps, and now I would like to help with the maintainance of some of the team's packages.

New sip4 release with API bump

2012-10-01 Thread Scott Kitterman
...@yahoo.es calibre Modestas Vainius mo...@debian.org pykde4 (U) Python Applications Packaging Team python-apps-t...@lists.alioth.debian.org veusz Scott Kitterman sc...@kitterman.com python-qt4 (U) qscintilla2 (U) Sune Vuorela s...@debian.org pykde4 (U) Torsten Marek shlo

Re: PyCon 2013 -- tentative title/abstract/outline -- feedback plz

2012-09-28 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Friday, September 28, 2012 09:53:42 AM Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: On Fri, 28 Sep 2012, Paul Wise wrote: ^^ this is a great idea. It'd be nice if we could prototype a flake8 / pyflakes run against the archive, and filter for serious errors We did do that at one point with pyflakes:

Re: suffix for packages with (optional?) Python extensions

2012-07-16 Thread Scott Kitterman
Julien Cristau julien.cris...@logilab.fr wrote: On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 11:57:01 -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: 1. python{3}-foo which is arch all and follows the current naming convention of foo being the name you import. It would depend on the arch any python-foo- ext package. all

Re: suffix for packages with (optional?) Python extensions

2012-07-16 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Monday, July 16, 2012 10:24:18 AM Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: On Mon, 16 Jul 2012, Scott Kitterman wrote: 1. python{3}-foo which is arch all and follows the current naming convention of foo being the name you import. It would depend on the arch any python-foo- ext

Re: suffix for packages with (optional?) Python extensions

2012-07-16 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Monday, July 16, 2012 11:06:59 AM Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: On Mon, 16 Jul 2012, Scott Kitterman wrote: OK. python-nipy depends on python-nipy-lib. Makes sense. Is python-nipy-lib useful on it's own? nope -- moreover it might be somewhat detrimental -- module might appear

Re: suffix for packages with (optional?) Python extensions

2012-07-13 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Friday, July 13, 2012 11:48:57 AM Barry Warsaw wrote: On Jul 12, 2012, at 09:00 PM, Piotr Ożarowski wrote: can we agree on a common suffix for such¹ packages and add a suggestion to Debian Python Policy? +1 I use -ext (python-sqlalchemy-ext) but now I see that there are also -accel

Re: dh_python2 and large /usr/share/pyshared

2012-07-10 Thread Scott Kitterman
debian-de...@liska.ath.cx wrote Jakub Wilk jw...@debian.org writes: * Olе Streicher debian-de...@liska.ath.cx, 2012-07-10, 12:14: I: python-astropy: arch-dep-package-has-big-usr-share 4137kB 87% How do I create an arch independend package that contains these files? [...] I'd rather not do

Re: roundup and dh_python2

2012-06-18 Thread Scott Kitterman
Toni Mueller t...@debian.org wrote: Hi, On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 01:09:55PM +0200, Jakub Wilk wrote: * Toni Mueller t...@debian.org, 2012-06-18, 12:55: debian/control: ... X-Python-Version: = 2.5, 2.8 In any case, I'd get rid of the 2.8 part. Surely roundup cannot be incompatible

Re: Request to Join Project Python Applications Packaging Team from Elena Grandi (valhalla-guest)

2012-06-12 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tuesday, June 12, 2012 02:13:14 PM nore...@alioth.debian.org wrote: I would like to join the python-apps team for the following reasons. * short term: take care of pdfposter, update it to version 0.5.0, try to close the existing bugs. * mid term: if the Maintainer of pdfposter continues

Re: RFS: numpydoc/0.4-1 [RFP/ITP 559916]

2012-06-12 Thread Scott Kitterman
Yaroslav Halchenko deb...@onerussian.com wrote: On Tue, 12 Jun 2012, Denis Laxalde wrote: Policy-compliant package name would be python-numpydoc, but that could be easily confused with python-numpy-doc. So I agree with your assessment: python-numpydoc-sphinx is a better for the binary

Re: Request to Join Project Python Applications Packaging Team from Nicolas Dandrimont (dandrimont-guest)

2012-05-31 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Friday, June 01, 2012 01:52:09 AM Nicolas Dandrimont (dandrimont-guest) wrote: Hello, I'd like to join the PAPT to adopt and maintain the hellanzb package, that I use and which needs some love. I'm a DM and already a member of DPMT. Thanks in advance, Nicolas Welcome to the

Re: [Python-modules-team] Removal of python-qt3?

2012-05-18 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Friday, May 18, 2012 11:48:07 AM Ana Guerrero wrote: Hi, I'm considering how feasible is removing Qt3 from wheezy. Even if we freeze soon, removing packages is never a problem :-) One of the big parts of the effort would be removing python-qt3, there are only 6 packages in the archive

Re: pythonX.Y maintenance team

2012-05-13 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Saturday, May 12, 2012 09:46:55 AM Sandro Tosi wrote: On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 3:26 PM, Scott Kitterman deb...@kitterman.com wrote: On Friday, April 13, 2012 08:37:26 AM Sandro Tosi wrote: On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 23:35, Scott Kitterman deb...@kitterman.com wrote: On Thursday, April 12

Re: Double build failures

2012-05-04 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Friday, May 04, 2012 06:38:30 PM Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote: On 04/05/12 18:23, Sandro Tosi wrote: On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 7:19 PM, Jakub Wilk jw...@debian.org wrote: or in setuptools. Ideally, by burning it with fire. CPython upstreams are developing a new module to replace distutils

Re: Python 3.3

2012-05-01 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tuesday, May 01, 2012 10:45:24 AM Barry Warsaw wrote: ... The ipaddr library is as well, though that might get the provisional tag. ... This is one I'll need to keep an eye on as ipaddr is packaged in dpmt as a seperate module (maintained by me). Upstream has a separate release that's

Re: How do I add support for python3 to my package?

2012-04-18 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday, April 18, 2012 10:35:04 AM Paul Elliott wrote: On Wednesday, April 18, 2012 10:12:24 AM Barry Warsaw wrote: On Apr 18, 2012, at 03:09 AM, Paul Elliott wrote: I am not a expert python packager. I am dubious about a bunch of cargo cult packagers all writing seperate but similar

Re: How do I add support for python3 to my package?

2012-04-18 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday, April 18, 2012 02:35:20 PM Paul Elliott wrote: On Wednesday, April 18, 2012 10:49:34 AM Scott Kitterman wrote: Alternately you could invest a little time in understanding what Barry's written up and build both sets of binaries from one source. This is the usual method

Re: How do I add support for python3 to my package?

2012-04-18 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday, April 18, 2012 03:09:35 PM Paul Elliott wrote: On Wednesday, April 18, 2012 02:46:33 PM Scott Kitterman wrote: No. You'd need overrides for a python3 only source package as well. The fundamental problem is debhelper doesn't know about building for python3. That doesn't

Re: pythonX.Y maintenance team

2012-04-14 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Saturday, April 14, 2012 05:12:54 PM Paul Wise wrote: On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 9:26 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: times when the only 'solution' available is a short term hack that's needed for Ubuntu's time based release schedule that isn't appropriate to Debian's approach of doing

Re: pythonX.Y maintenance team

2012-04-13 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Friday, April 13, 2012 08:37:26 AM Sandro Tosi wrote: On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 23:35, Scott Kitterman deb...@kitterman.com wrote: On Thursday, April 12, 2012 11:04:33 PM Sandro Tosi wrote: On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 22:50, Scott Kitterman deb...@kitterman.com wrote: On Thursday, April 12

Re: pythonX.Y maintenance team

2012-04-12 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, April 12, 2012 11:25:07 AM Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: On Tue, Apr 03, 2012 at 10:36:58AM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: Allow me be blunt then: do we have volunteers to maintain the pythonX.Y packages? Can those volunteers manifest themselves on this list? So, ~10 days later

Re: pythonX.Y maintenance team

2012-04-12 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, April 12, 2012 09:12:23 PM Sandro Tosi wrote: On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 16:13, Scott Kitterman deb...@kitterman.com wrote: I don't think that the *-defaults packages and the interpreter packages fundamentally require the same maintainer, but I expect it to be problematic to have

Re: pythonX.Y maintenance team

2012-04-12 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, April 12, 2012 10:20:04 PM Sandro Tosi wrote: To give a (fresh) example and what I meant above, you can try to answer this provocative question: Why Ubuntu has Python 2.7.3 since more than 2 days (even before it was publicly announced) while Debian is still stuck with a RC,

Re: pythonX.Y maintenance team

2012-04-12 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, April 12, 2012 11:04:33 PM Sandro Tosi wrote: On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 22:50, Scott Kitterman deb...@kitterman.com wrote: On Thursday, April 12, 2012 10:20:04 PM Sandro Tosi wrote: To give a (fresh) example and what I meant above, you can try to answer this provocative question

Re: RFC: Adding discussion about required versions to Python policy

2012-03-19 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Monday, March 19, 2012 12:20:18 PM Jakub Wilk wrote: * Scott Kitterman deb...@kitterman.com, 2012-03-17, 14:29: Upon reflection, this could be better stated something like this: The generated minumum dependency may be different than the lowest version currently supported. In such cases, X

Re: Possible misbuilt python3 module packages

2012-03-17 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, March 15, 2012 12:02:42 PM Scott Kitterman wrote: Last night I uploaded an updated python3-defaults package to fix a problem where dh_python3 was not honoring version requirements set the -V option in debian/rules or X-Python3-Version in debian/control. If you have a python3

RFC: Clarifying version specific depends/provides in Python policy

2012-03-17 Thread Scott Kitterman
I've attached a patch (it's built on the last one I sent) that attempts to clarify policy around packages that only work with specific versions of Python/Python3. Here's what I attempted to do: - Changed should support the default version to should support all supported versions. - Dropped

Removing legacy XS-Python-Version support from python3-defaults

2012-03-16 Thread Scott Kitterman
When Squeeze was nearing freeze, the definition of some aspects of python3 support were still new. There were some packages that used XS-Python-Version in debian control, instead of X-Python3-Version. There are now none (one package still has it in debian/control, but it's not actually

RFC: Adding discussion about required versions to Python policy

2012-03-16 Thread Scott Kitterman
I've worked on a couple of dh_python3 bugs in the last few days and as a result, gotten my hands dirty on the Python 3 dependency generation code. This caused me to consider the question of specifying which Python 3 versions are supported by a package a little more closely. I have generally

Possible misbuilt python3 module packages

2012-03-15 Thread Scott Kitterman
Last night I uploaded an updated python3-defaults package to fix a problem where dh_python3 was not honoring version requirements set the -V option in debian/rules or X-Python3-Version in debian/control. If you have a python3 module package that set a minumum version of python3 to 3.2 using

Re: qscintilla2: package Python 3 bindings

2012-03-14 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday, March 14, 2012 12:41:32 PM Thomas Kluyver wrote: On 14 March 2012 04:13, Scott Kitterman deb...@kitterman.com wrote: I did have to make some additional changes, such as using a policy compliant binary name in python3, as we did for PyQt4 (python3-pyqt4.qsci) and using

Re: qscintilla2: package Python 3 bindings

2012-03-14 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday, March 14, 2012 04:02:40 PM Simon McVittie wrote: On 14/03/12 15:40, Barry Warsaw wrote: It would be nice to build for all supported Python 3 versions. Python 3.3 is currently scheduled for August of this year, but I'm hoping we'll start seeing it show up in Debian around the

Re: qscintilla2: package Python 3 bindings

2012-03-13 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 11:27:01 PM Thomas Kluyver wrote: Following on from tornado, the attached patch updates the packaging for qscintilla2 to build Python 3 bindings. It's roughly following the python-qt4 packaging (which it depends on). Except for the Python/Python 2 parts (it's a

Re: qscintilla2: package Python 3 bindings

2012-03-13 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 11:27:01 PM Thomas Kluyver wrote: Following on from tornado, the attached patch updates the packaging for qscintilla2 to build Python 3 bindings. It's roughly following the python-qt4 packaging (which it depends on). I did have to make some additional changes, such

Helper selection and namespaces

2012-03-07 Thread Scott Kitterman
From the discussion in Bug #662965: ...packages sharing the same namespace must use the same helper. They can use different helpers if the package that is earlier in sys.path uses this trick: http://docs.python.org/library/pkgutil.html#pkgutil.extend_path The multiple helper path issue

Re: getting rid of python-central

2012-03-03 Thread Scott Kitterman
Arthur de Jong adej...@debian.org wrote: Hello lists, I've been seeing what it would take to remove python-central from my system and it wasn't actually that much so I sent patches to the BTS for the remaining packages and fixed a few python-apps-team and python-modules-team packages in SVN.

Re: New python-qt4 upload to experimental

2012-01-31 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Sunday, January 29, 2012 12:28:22 AM Scott Kitterman wrote: I just uploaded a new python-qt4 revision to experimental (it's arrival will be delayed since it has to go through new. It is experimental for at least three reasons: 1. It is changed to build with a multiarched Qt as qt4-x11

Re: New python-qt4 upload to experimental

2012-01-29 Thread Scott Kitterman
Piotr Ożarowski pi...@debian.org wrote: [Scott Kitterman, 2012-01-29] 2. It builds a new python3-pyqt4-dbus (and dbg) package that needs python3- dbus which is only available in experimental at the moment. why not python3-dbus.mainloop.qt? Because I didn't think it through when naming

New python-qt4 upload to experimental

2012-01-28 Thread Scott Kitterman
I just uploaded a new python-qt4 revision to experimental (it's arrival will be delayed since it has to go through new. It is experimental for at least three reasons: 1. It is changed to build with a multiarched Qt as qt4-x11 4.8 in experimental is. 2. It builds a new python3-pyqt4-dbus

Re: [Python-modules-commits] r20032 - in packages/pyusb/trunk/debian (6 files)

2012-01-17 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tuesday, January 17, 2012 07:14:23 PM Sandro Tosi wrote: On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 18:12, kitter...@users.alioth.debian.org wrote: Date: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 @ 17:12:00 Author: kitterman Revision: 20032 * Team upload ... * Switch to dh_python2 I think changing the

PyQt4 4.9

2011-12-28 Thread Scott Kitterman
python-qt4 is currenlty broken in Unstable (See #653293) due to incompatible changes in the new sip4 uploaded last week (thanks upstream). Upgrading python-qt4 resolves this issue, but it is a major new release. I've rebuilt some of the packages (like pykde4) the build-depend on it without

RFH: python-sip runtime version checks

2011-11-03 Thread Scott Kitterman
See #647210 for the most recent instance of these checks causing problems. python-sip will raise a RuntimeError if the upstream version of python-qt4 (specifically PyQt4.QtCore) used at runtime is different than the one the package was built with. RuntimeError: the PyQt4.QtCore module is

Re: Python 3 packaging

2011-10-29 Thread Scott Kitterman
On 10/29/2011 05:23 PM, Bernd Zeimetz wrote: On 10/29/2011 08:05 PM, Thomas Kluyver wrote: Hi, I've been having a go at repackaging some Python modules where I know the same codebase can be compiled for Python 3. So far, that's pyzmq and python-qt4. I've not done any packaging before, so I've

Magical Python Depends was: Re: Dependencies with cType

2011-10-03 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Monday, October 03, 2011 09:56:21 PM Jakub Wilk wrote: BTW, I'm slightly disturbed by the fact, that so many people believe that a Python helper does code inspection (or maybe use some magical means...) to generate python:Depends. It seems to be a new phenomenon, I don't recall any

Re: Python 2.7 for Squeeze?

2011-10-02 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Sunday, October 02, 2011 09:38:37 PM Miguel Landaeta wrote: On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 9:25 AM, Thomas Waldmann tw-pub...@gmx.de wrote: So, is anybody working on putting python2.7 into squeeze-backports or do I need to work on that myself? (I don't have much experience with debian packaging

Python2.7 as default

2011-09-27 Thread Scott Kitterman
The release team has given us a transition slot and python-defaults is ready for upload, so we'll be starting the transition shortly. We're currently looking into 642601. We're not aware of any other issues that might cause us to delay. Scott K -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Python2.7 as default

2011-09-27 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tuesday, September 27, 2011 08:07:09 PM Luca Falavigna wrote: Il 27/09/2011 19:35, Scott Kitterman ha scritto: We're currently looking into 642601. It seems some uploaders have been asked to provide an update. If they don't react, I could prepare a team upload myself. I'm not aware

python-qt4, sip4 and dy_python2 conversion

2011-07-29 Thread Scott Kitterman
Currently python-qt4 is uninstallable due to breaks put in for python-dbus when it switched. There's a proposed change to switch python-qt4 in DPMT svn. Since switching sip4 to dh_python2 will break approximately the same packages as switching python-qt4, I'm going to switch it too (working

Re: New python-defaults upload to experimental

2011-07-27 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, July 07, 2011 01:30:48 AM Scott Kitterman wrote: I've just uploaded 2.7.2-2 to experimental. It's mostly about dh_python2 improvements from POX, but also has some minor updates to Python Policy that I think improve the currency of it a bit. Please review the changes and I'll fix

Re: Accepted python-defaults 2.7.2-3 (source all)

2011-07-10 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Sunday, July 10, 2011 06:53:34 PM Jakub Wilk wrote: * Matthias Klose d...@debian.org, 2011-07-10, 19:34: Changes: python-defaults (2.7.2-3) experimental; urgency=low . * python: Provide python profiler. * Provide a python2 symlink according to PEP 394. Excuse me, what?

Re: New python-defaults upload to experimental

2011-07-07 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, July 07, 2011 04:27:32 AM Piotr Ożarowski wrote: [Scott Kitterman, 2011-07-07] B.Packaging Tools - B.1. distutils - B.2. python-support - B.3. python-central - B.4. CDBS + B.1. dh_python2 and dh_python3

Re: New python-defaults upload to experimental

2011-07-07 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, July 07, 2011 08:43:29 AM Jakub Wilk wrote: * Scott Kitterman deb...@kitterman.com, 2011-07-07, 01:30: I've just uploaded 2.7.2-2 to experimental. It's mostly about dh_python2 improvements from POX, but also has some minor updates to Python Policy that I think improve

Re: New python-defaults upload to experimental

2011-07-07 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, July 07, 2011 11:23:13 AM Brian Sutherland wrote: On Thu, Jul 07, 2011 at 09:18:19AM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: On Thursday, July 07, 2011 04:27:32 AM Piotr Ożarowski wrote: [Scott Kitterman, 2011-07-07] B.Packaging Tools - B.1

New python-defaults upload to experimental

2011-07-06 Thread Scott Kitterman
+16,7 @@ Scott Kitterman sc...@kitterman.com - version 0.9.3.0 + version 0.9.4.0 --- @@ -94,10 +94,11 @@ A.Build Dependencies

Re: list of package for python_support - dh_python2 ?

2011-06-12 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Sunday, June 12, 2011 10:24:51 AM Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: On Sun, 12 Jun 2011, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: I am asking because I have a few packages which use pysupport now and it seems to work (so it is the mighty for me)... not sure if I am ready to invest time into doing a

Re: X-Python3-Version if Python 3 is unsupported?

2011-05-21 Thread Scott Kitterman
Nikolaus Rath nikol...@rath.org wrote: Hello, What should I put into X-Python3-Version for a package that does not support Python 3? According to http://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/python-policy/ch-module_packages.html, not providing that header would mean that the package is compatible

Re: pypi-install for python3?

2011-05-16 Thread Scott Kitterman
Barry Warsaw ba...@python.org wrote: On May 15, 2011, at 11:57 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: http://pkgme.net/ Which is rather less complete for Python packaging than stdeb and I'd prefer we don't recommend. Perhaps, but I think it's a good project to contribute to if you want to make package

Re: pypi-install for python3?

2011-05-16 Thread Scott Kitterman
Sandro Tosi mo...@debian.org wrote: On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 16:43, Scott Kitterman deb...@kitterman.com wrote: I think it's deeply unfortunate that the pkgme authors chose duplicate something for which there is already a reasonably complete solution rather than focus on areas where

Re: pypi-install for python3?

2011-05-16 Thread Scott Kitterman
Sandro Tosi mo...@debian.org wrote: On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 16:43, Scott Kitterman deb...@kitterman.com wrote: I think it's deeply unfortunate that the pkgme authors chose duplicate something for which there is already a reasonably complete solution rather than focus on areas where

Re: pypi-install for python3?

2011-05-15 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Sunday, May 15, 2011 06:24:47 PM Barry Warsaw wrote: On May 15, 2011, at 10:40 PM, Piotr Ożarowski wrote: [Janne Snabb, 2011-05-13] I assume that pypi-install is the most sensible way to install Python packages which have not been packaged for Debian. true [...] How do I tell

Re: Request to Join Project Python Applications Packaging Team

2011-05-04 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday, May 04, 2011 02:23:58 AM nore...@alioth.debian.org wrote: Johannes Ring has requested to join your project. Comments by the user: Hi, I am currently a member of the DPMT, but now I have started working on some packages that fits better under the umbrella of PAPT. Therefore, I

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