Re: Coordinated effort to update python packages

2006-06-14 Thread Graham Wilson
On Wed, Jun 14, 2006 at 06:43:32PM -0600, Jed Frechette wrote: > This is exactly the situation I am in now. I want to use PyX for > plotting but I need some of the features in Python 2.4. Well I > probably don't need them, I am sure I could find work arounds, but why > should I write code that is m

Re: Coordinated effort to update python packages

2006-06-14 Thread Jed Frechette
Piotr Ozarowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > What if user will change his default python version (f.e. if his > > > scripts will use /usr/bin/env python, or simply he will start his > > > script with pythonX.Y)? > > > > I'm not sure I understand your question. Why would the user change his > >

Re: Coordinated effort to update python packages

2006-06-14 Thread Graham Wilson
On Wed, Jun 14, 2006 at 11:06:53PM +0200, Piotr Ozarowski wrote: > He can simply change /usr/bin/python symlink (that's very bad, but > it's possible) To be honest, I don't think it's worth supporting that, since the user is basically breaking his Python install. > or if he will need some feature

Re: Coordinated effort to update python packages

2006-06-14 Thread Graham Wilson
On Tue, Jun 13, 2006 at 11:45:32PM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: > that is correct. OTOH, each new upload to unstable may add a new > dependency on a newly uploaded library having a more strict dependency > or a new soname. If you build for the version we transition from, and > for the version we tr

Re: Coordinated effort to update python packages

2006-06-14 Thread Piotr Ozarowski
Graham Wilson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > What if user will change his default python version (f.e. if his scripts > > will use /usr/bin/env python, or simply he will start his script with > > pythonX.Y)? > > I'm not sure I understand your question. Why would the user change his > default Python vers

Re: Coordinated effort to update python packages

2006-06-14 Thread Graham Wilson
On Tue, Jun 13, 2006 at 11:43:21PM +0200, Piotr Ozarowski wrote: > Graham Wilson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > That would happen anyway for new Python releases, plus, my understanding > > is that with the new Python framework in place, supporting new Python > > versions can be handled simply by bin NMUs

Re: Coordinated effort to update python packages

2006-06-14 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 at 16:10:48 -0500, Joe Wreschnig wrote: > On Tue, 2006-06-13 at 22:05 +0200, Mike Hommey wrote: > > What about people who want to use pyxpcom with modules that aren't > > available with the current python ? > > But a user couldn't install more than one such module at a time, si

Re: Coordinated effort to update python packages

2006-06-14 Thread Frederic Peters
Frank Lichtenheld wrote: > My libgpod package didn't appear in the list because it currently only > builds an python2.3-gpod and no python-gpod at all. Feel free to NMU > this package as I really have no idea about that whole python modules My python2.3-lasso package didn't appear either; I shoul

request for NMUs [Was: Coordinated effort to update python packages]

2006-06-14 Thread Robert Jordens
Hello! [Tue, 13 Jun 2006] Raphael Hertzog wrote: > If you don't have time to do this now, please reply on > debian-python@lists.debian.org and allow us to make NMU of your packages. I wont have much time to fix my packages so please feel free to NMU any of them: > Robert Jordens <[EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: Coordinated effort to update python packages

2006-06-14 Thread Pierre Habouzit
Le Mar 13 Juin 2006 20:38, Raphael Hertzog a écrit : > For NMUers, always start by filling a bug report refering to this > announce, register the bug number and your intent to work on it in > the wiki page, do the work, send the patch to the BTS and upload the > package appropriately (using a DELA

Re: Coordinated effort to update python packages

2006-06-13 Thread Frank Lichtenheld
On Tue, Jun 13, 2006 at 08:38:57PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > the Python team has agreed on a new policy [1]. As we want to do the > python 2.4 transition now, we need to make sure the packages match the > policy. This will limit the amount of broken packages when python2.4 will > become the d

Re: Coordinated effort to update python packages

2006-06-13 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Jun 13, 2006 at 09:13:26PM +0200, Mike Hommey wrote: > PS: Anyways, there's one package you didn't list because it's in NEW, > which WON'T be merged as required by the new policy: python2.x-xpcom, > provided by xulrunner. > The reason is simple: different installations for different python

Re: Coordinated effort to update python packages

2006-06-13 Thread Matthias Klose
Mike Hommey writes: > On Tue, Jun 13, 2006 at 09:55:08PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > When you install some python extensions (.so), it is common that they come > > with > > associated .py files (modules). Those .py files usually are the same in > > /usr/lib/python2.3

Re: Coordinated effort to update python packages

2006-06-13 Thread Matthias Klose
Graham Wilson writes: > On Tue, Jun 13, 2006 at 11:22:27PM +0200, Piotr Ozarowski wrote: > > Graham Wilson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > > Speaking of this, I have a module (python-pyx) that I think is only used > > > by end-users (not applications), so I think it makes sense to only > > > install modul

Re: Coordinated effort to update python packages

2006-06-13 Thread Piotr Ozarowski
Graham Wilson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > On Tue, Jun 13, 2006 at 11:22:27PM +0200, Piotr Ozarowski wrote: > > What if default python version will change? You will have to reupload > > your package. > > That would happen anyway for new Python releases, plus, my understanding > is that with the new Pyth

Re: Coordinated effort to update python packages

2006-06-13 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mardi 13 juin 2006 à 16:31 -0500, Graham Wilson a écrit : > That would happen anyway for new Python releases, plus, my understanding > is that with the new Python framework in place, supporting new Python > versions can be handled simply by bin NMUs in the case that I can't make > an upload myse

Re: Coordinated effort to update python packages

2006-06-13 Thread Graham Wilson
On Tue, Jun 13, 2006 at 11:22:27PM +0200, Piotr Ozarowski wrote: > Graham Wilson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > Speaking of this, I have a module (python-pyx) that I think is only used > > by end-users (not applications), so I think it makes sense to only > > install modules and extensions for the curren

Re: Coordinated effort to update python packages

2006-06-13 Thread Piotr Ozarowski
Graham Wilson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Speaking of this, I have a module (python-pyx) that I think is only used > by end-users (not applications), so I think it makes sense to only > install modules and extensions for the current version. Does this make > sense? What if default python version will c

Re: Coordinated effort to update python packages

2006-06-13 Thread Graham Wilson
On Tue, Jun 13, 2006 at 09:55:08PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > OK, then indicate "current" in XS-Python-Version and support only the > current version in python-xpcom (make sure to generate the provides > field). Speaking of this, I have a module (python-pyx) that I think is only used by end-u

Re: Coordinated effort to update python packages

2006-06-13 Thread Joe Wreschnig
On Tue, 2006-06-13 at 22:05 +0200, Mike Hommey wrote: > On Tue, Jun 13, 2006 at 09:55:08PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > When you install some python extensions (.so), it is common that they come > > with > > associated .py files (modules). Those .py files usually are th

Re: Coordinated effort to update python packages

2006-06-13 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Jun 13, 2006 at 09:55:08PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > When you install some python extensions (.so), it is common that they come > with > associated .py files (modules). Those .py files usually are the same in > /usr/lib/python2.3 and /usr/lib/python2.4, that's w

Re: Coordinated effort to update python packages

2006-06-13 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Tue, 13 Jun 2006, Mike Hommey wrote: > > So please check in the list at the end of this mail if you're concerned, > > and if yes, please update your packages following these instructions: > > http://wiki.debian.org/DebianPython/NewPolicy > > http://people.debian.org/~piman/python-policy/ > > Ma

Re: Coordinated effort to update python packages

2006-06-13 Thread Andreas Barth
* Mike Hommey ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060613 21:29]: > PPS: I'll take care of libxml2 and libxslt as soon as I understand what > I'm supposed to change. Please don't upload libxml2 until the current version either hits testing or is RC-buggy. Thanks. Cheers, Andi -- http://home.arcor.de/andrea

Re: Coordinated effort to update python packages

2006-06-13 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Jun 13, 2006 at 08:38:57PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, > > the Python team has agreed on a new policy [1]. As we want to do the > python 2.4 transition now, we need to make sure the packages match the > policy. This will limit the amount of broken packages w