Re: Python 2 d-d-a proposal

2015-04-16 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 4:48 AM, Scott Kitterman wrote: You might also ask Debian teams using Python in the Debian infrastructure to review their packaged dependencies and identify any that aren't available for Python3. We'll need to know that soon so we can work on porting

Re: Python 2 d-d-a proposal

2015-04-16 Thread Karsten Hilbert
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 04:27:51PM -0400, Paul Tagliamonte wrote: I'd like this to have the endorsement of the team, so, does anyone object to me asking people to not write new tools in Python 2 only (prefer alternative deps or porting), and only use Python 2 in very special curcumstances or

Re: Python 2 d-d-a proposal

2015-04-16 Thread Karsten Hilbert
With all this desire to drop Python 2 eventually -- there are packages, say gnumed-client, which simply cannot be ported to Python 3 ATM because important dependencies don't exist for Py 3, say pythonX-wxgtk. Karsten -- GPG key ID E4071346 @ eu.pool.sks-keyservers.net E167 67FD A291 2BEA 73BD

Re: Python 2 d-d-a proposal

2015-04-16 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Apr 16, 2015, at 10:07 AM, Karsten Hilbert wrote: Maybe /usr/bin/python can become a wrapper executing Python 2 (like now) but also showing Python 2 will be deprecated in 2020 the latest. Do not use it to write new code. Consider helping in porting existing code.

Re: Python 2 d-d-a proposal

2015-04-16 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Apr 16, 2015, at 10:10 AM, Karsten Hilbert wrote: With all this desire to drop Python 2 eventually -- there are packages, say gnumed-client, which simply cannot be ported to Python 3 ATM because important dependencies don't exist for Py 3, say pythonX-wxgtk. Right. The best approach is to

Re: Python 2 d-d-a proposal

2015-04-16 Thread Daniele Tricoli
On Wednesday 15 April 2015 20:54:38 Barry Warsaw wrote: I'm up for helping too, of course. Me too! Kind regards, -- Daniele Tricoli 'Eriol' http://mornie.org signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Python 2 d-d-a proposal

2015-04-15 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
Heyya d-p, I'd like to send an email to d-d-a asking that project to consider no longer creating new Debian tools in Python 2. I'd like this to have the endorsement of the team, so, does anyone object to me asking people to not write new tools in Python 2 only (prefer alternative deps or

Re: Python 2 d-d-a proposal

2015-04-15 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday, April 15, 2015 04:27:51 PM Paul Tagliamonte wrote: Heyya d-p, I'd like to send an email to d-d-a asking that project to consider no longer creating new Debian tools in Python 2. I'd like this to have the endorsement of the team, so, does anyone object to me asking people to

Re: Python 2 d-d-a proposal

2015-04-15 Thread Ian Cordasco
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 3:27 PM, Paul Tagliamonte paul...@debian.org wrote: Heyya d-p, I'd like to send an email to d-d-a asking that project to consider no longer creating new Debian tools in Python 2. I'd like this to have the endorsement of the team, so, does anyone object to me asking

Re: Python 2 d-d-a proposal

2015-04-15 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
Perfect, thanks, Ian! I'll get a ML for a Python 3 porting SWAT team together once we make sure no one has a sane technical reason to avoid this so soon (I don't think there's any) Thanks, Ian! Excited to work with you! Paul On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 4:35 PM, Ian Cordasco

Re: Python 2 d-d-a proposal

2015-04-15 Thread Paul R. Tagliamonte
I was saying the same thing in my head, but as i thought about it, if the cpython maint team (hi doko) wants it, I don't see why not :) I phrased it in such a way in my mail that I feel comfortable sending my draft and then working out details without setting ftpteam policy first On Apr 15, 2015

Re: Python 2 d-d-a proposal

2015-04-15 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday, April 15, 2015 11:07:13 PM Matthias Klose wrote: On 04/15/2015 10:27 PM, Paul Tagliamonte wrote: Heyya d-p, I'd like to send an email to d-d-a asking that project to consider no longer creating new Debian tools in Python 2. I'd like this to have the endorsement of the

Re: Python 2 d-d-a proposal

2015-04-15 Thread Paul R. Tagliamonte
I'll add a note about that, and talk with the ftpteam to see if we can implement that policy in NEW. Mails on the thread seem positive so far, I'll post this to d-d-a when I get home from YUL to DC tonight. On Apr 15, 2015 5:07 PM, Matthias Klose d...@debian.org wrote: On 04/15/2015 10:27 PM,

Re: Python 2 d-d-a proposal

2015-04-15 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Apr 15, 2015, at 04:27 PM, Paul Tagliamonte wrote: I'd like this to have the endorsement of the team Looks like you don't need my +1 but I'll give it anyway. :) I'll make note of a team which should exist to help with such porting, (I'm up to help with this) I'm up for helping too, of

Re: Python 2 d-d-a proposal

2015-04-15 Thread Ben Finney
Paul Tagliamonte paul...@debian.org writes: I'll make note of a team which should exist to help with [porting packages to Python 3 compatibility], (I'm up to help with this) that was one of the items that came out of the PyCon chit-chat. I have recent experience making code bases Python 2 and

Re: Python 2 d-d-a proposal

2015-04-15 Thread Dimitri John Ledkov
I am happy to help porting things. I did it for a number of non trivial packages and happy to do more. It's very soothing experience and better than knitting sudoku. On 15 Apr 2015 2:29 pm, Paul Tagliamonte paul...@debian.org wrote: Heyya d-p, I'd like to send an email to d-d-a asking that

Re: Python 2 d-d-a proposal

2015-04-15 Thread W. Martin Borgert
On 2015-04-15 16:27, Paul Tagliamonte wrote: I'd like to send an email to d-d-a asking that project to consider no longer creating new Debian tools in Python 2. Makes sense. I try to use Py3 whenever possible. Sometimes some libs are still missing, mainly when upstream is not very active. My

Re: Python 2 d-d-a proposal

2015-04-15 Thread Matthias Klose
On 04/15/2015 10:27 PM, Paul Tagliamonte wrote: Heyya d-p, I'd like to send an email to d-d-a asking that project to consider no longer creating new Debian tools in Python 2. I'd like this to have the endorsement of the team, so, does anyone object to me asking people to not write new