pyenv / Re: Python 3.10 in bookworm

2023-02-08 Thread Joost van Baal-Ilić
Hi karthek e.a., Op Tue, Feb 07, 2023 at 10:50:07PM +0530 schreef karthek: > Sorry for spamming… > Resending the same message, I just remembered debian.org ignores mails > from mail@* addresses. > > On Tue, Feb 07, 2023 at 02:24:08PM +, Stefano Rivera wrote: > > > See "ITP pyenv" @

Re: Python 3.10 in bookworm

2023-02-07 Thread karthek
Sorry for spamming… Resending the same message, I just remembered debian.org ignores mails from mail@* addresses. On Tue, Feb 07, 2023 at 02:24:08PM +, Stefano Rivera wrote: > > See "ITP pyenv" @ http://bugs.debian.org/978149 . > > I think the Python development community would be very happy

Re: Python 3.10 in bookworm

2023-02-07 Thread Julian Gilbey
On Tue, Feb 07, 2023 at 12:31:23PM +0100, Joost van Baal-Ilić wrote: > Op Tue, Feb 07, 2023 at 05:52:21AM + schreef Danial Behzadi دانیال بهزادی: > > Does it worth trying to package pyenv for Debian? Ain't it against any > > rules? > > See "ITP pyenv" @ http://bugs.debian.org/978149 . Oh,

Re: Python 3.10 in bookworm

2023-02-07 Thread Stefano Rivera
Hi Joost (2023.02.07_11:31:23_+) > Op Tue, Feb 07, 2023 at 05:52:21AM + schreef Danial Behzadi دانیال بهزادی: > > Does it worth trying to package pyenv for Debian? Ain't it against any > > rules? > > See "ITP pyenv" @ http://bugs.debian.org/978149 . I think the Python development

Re: Python 3.10 in bookworm

2023-02-07 Thread Joost van Baal-Ilić
Op Tue, Feb 07, 2023 at 05:52:21AM + schreef Danial Behzadi دانیال بهزادی: > Does it worth trying to package pyenv for Debian? Ain't it against any rules? See "ITP pyenv" @ http://bugs.debian.org/978149 . Bye, Joost -- Joost van Baal-Ilić http://abramowitz.uvt.nl/

Re: Python 3.10 in bookworm

2023-02-06 Thread Danial Behzadi دانیال بهزادی
Does it worth trying to package pyenv for Debian? Ain't it against any rules?

Re: Python 3.10 in bookworm

2023-02-06 Thread Julian Gilbey
Hi Andrey, On Mon, Feb 06, 2023 at 11:53:33AM +0100, Andrey Rakhmatullin wrote: > On Sun, Feb 05, 2023 at 01:50:34PM +, Julian Gilbey wrote: > > Our social contract #4 says "Our priorities are our users and free > > software". What benefits would having the python3.10 base packages in > >

Re: Python 3.10 in bookworm

2023-02-06 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 2/5/23 14:50, Julian Gilbey wrote: Our social contract #4 says "Our priorities are our users and free software". In a Debian thread, invoking the social contract #4, is like owning a goodwin point. It suggests that the opponent is trying to do something against the Debian users, which is

Re: Python 3.10 in bookworm

2023-02-06 Thread Andrey Rakhmatullin
On Sun, Feb 05, 2023 at 01:50:34PM +, Julian Gilbey wrote: > Our social contract #4 says "Our priorities are our users and free > software". What benefits would having the python3.10 base packages in > bookworm bring for our users (as I point out, for some users, this is > a necessity) and

Re: Python 3.10 in bookworm

2023-02-05 Thread Julian Gilbey
Hi Michael, On Sun, Feb 05, 2023 at 02:29:10PM +0100, Michael Kesper wrote: > Hi Julian, > > Am 05.02.23 um 11:38 schrieb Julian Gilbey: > > Why is the current intention not to ship the python3.10 package in > > bookworm? > > Because it would amount to about double the work for all those

Re: Python 3.10 in bookworm

2023-02-05 Thread Scott Kitterman
On February 5, 2023 5:22:33 PM UTC, Julian Gilbey wrote: >On Sun, Feb 05, 2023 at 02:41:08PM +, Stefano Rivera wrote: >> Hi Julian (2023.02.05_10:38:23_+) >> >> > Why is the current intention not to ship the python3.10 package in >> > bookworm? >> >> Because we aim to have a single

Re: Python 3.10 in bookworm

2023-02-05 Thread Julian Gilbey
On Sun, Feb 05, 2023 at 02:41:08PM +, Stefano Rivera wrote: > Hi Julian (2023.02.05_10:38:23_+) > > > Why is the current intention not to ship the python3.10 package in > > bookworm? > > Because we aim to have a single Python release supported in every stable > release. I am not

Re: Python 3.10 in bookworm

2023-02-05 Thread Stefano Rivera
Hi Julian (2023.02.05_10:38:23_+) > Why is the current intention not to ship the python3.10 package in > bookworm? Because we aim to have a single Python release supported in every stable release. > I was trying to run some experiments in a virtual environment a few > days ago, and it turns

Re: Python 3.10 in bookworm

2023-02-05 Thread Michael Kesper
Hi Julian, Am 05.02.23 um 11:38 schrieb Julian Gilbey: Why is the current intention not to ship the python3.10 package in bookworm? Because it would amount to about double the work for all those involved. Besides, Python 3.11 has some points for it: - Real performance gains for real

Re: Python 3.10 in bookworm

2023-02-05 Thread Julian Gilbey
Our social contract #4 says "Our priorities are our users and free software". What benefits would having the python3.10 base packages in bookworm bring for our users (as I point out, for some users, this is a necessity) and what disadvantages would it bring (none that I can think of)? Why would

Re: Python 3.10 in bookworm

2023-02-05 Thread Thomas Goirand
How about fixing the 3.11 issues if you hit them ? How about using Buster and 3.9 if 3.11 doesn't work (yet) for you ? Thomas Goirand (zigo) On Feb 5, 2023 11:38, Julian Gilbey wrote: > > Why is the current intention not to ship the python3.10 package in > bookworm? > > I was trying to run

Python 3.10 in bookworm

2023-02-05 Thread Julian Gilbey
Why is the current intention not to ship the python3.10 package in bookworm? I was trying to run some experiments in a virtual environment a few days ago, and it turns out that several of the Python packages I needed do not yet run on Python 3.11. I was saved by being able to run in a Python