Re: Question for the transition

2001-09-06 Thread Bruce Sass
On 6 Sep 2001, Mikael Hedin wrote: > So file bug on the packages in question. They could also depend on > python(>=1.5), python(<<1.6). See my other postings on this. I see it as the difference between putting a gate on the corral, and running around trying to round up the livestock whenever th

Re: Question for the transition

2001-09-06 Thread Mikael Hedin
So file bug on the packages in question. They could also depend on python(>=1.5), python(<<1.6). See my other postings on this. /Micce -- Mikael Hedin, MSc +46 (0)980 79176 Swedish Institute of Space Physics +46 (0)8 344979 (home) Box 812, S-981 28 KIRUNA, Sweden+46 (0)70

Re: Question for the transition

2001-09-06 Thread Bruce Sass
On Thu, 6 Sep 2001, Neil Schemenauer wrote: > Bruce Sass wrote: > > Any program that exists with Python dependent versions will need > > multiple versions of Python packages. Maybe Zope today, who knows > > what tomorrow. Either Debian supports multiple installed versions of > > Python out-of-th

Re: Question for the transition

2001-09-06 Thread Neil Schemenauer
Bruce Sass wrote: > Any program that exists with Python dependent versions will need > multiple versions of Python packages. Maybe Zope today, who knows > what tomorrow. Either Debian supports multiple installed versions of > Python out-of-the-box, or users start jumping through a bunch of hoops

Re: Question for the transition

2001-09-05 Thread Bruce Sass
On Tue, 4 Sep 2001, Neil Schemenauer wrote: > Jérôme Marant: > > The major question is: do we still need to ship 1.5.2? Unfortunately, > > the old python seems to be necessary since some old packages are not > > compatible with 2.x versions. > > Do you know of any? If you can point them out

Re: Question for the transition

2001-09-05 Thread Neil Schemenauer
Jérôme Marant wrote: > Neil Schemenauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Do you know of any? If you can point them out I may be able to help fix > > them. > > Zope 2.3x was the most obvious example. I don't know if python-ldap can > work with 2.x too. All python packages that provide binary mo

Re: Question for the transition

2001-09-05 Thread Jérôme Marant
Neil Schemenauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Jérôme Marant: > > The major question is: do we still need to ship 1.5.2? Unfortunately, > > the old python seems to be necessary since some old packages are not > > compatible with 2.x versions. > > Do you know of any? If you can point them o

Re: Question for the transition

2001-09-05 Thread David Maslen
Neil Schemenauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Jim Penny wrote: > > This is not all that simple. python2.1 conflicts with zope2.3.x > > and python1.5 conflicts with zope2.4.x. > > In that case I think it's better to create python1.5 and zope2.3 > legacy packages for people who can't upgrade. I p

Re: Question for the transition

2001-09-04 Thread John Goerzen
Jim Penny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > This is not all that simple. python2.1 conflicts with zope2.3.x > and python1.5 conflicts with zope2.4.x. Further, it is often > the case that there is a fair amount of internal breakage when > upgrading from one release of zope to another. It is not unus

Re: Question for the transition

2001-09-04 Thread Neil Schemenauer
Jim Penny wrote: > This is not all that simple. python2.1 conflicts with zope2.3.x > and python1.5 conflicts with zope2.4.x. In that case I think it's better to create python1.5 and zope2.3 legacy packages for people who can't upgrade. Neil

Re: Question for the transition

2001-09-04 Thread Jim Penny
On Tue, Sep 04, 2001 at 06:43:37PM -0400, Scott Moynes wrote: > * Robert Kern ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > However, Zope 2.4.0 and up require Python 2.1. > > However, Debian only has Zope 2.3.3, although this may soon be > remedied as a new stable version, 2.4.1, was released recently. This is

Re: Question for the transition

2001-09-04 Thread Scott Moynes
* Robert Kern ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > However, Zope 2.4.0 and up require Python 2.1. However, Debian only has Zope 2.3.3, although this may soon be remedied as a new stable version, 2.4.1, was released recently. -- Copyleft (c) 2001, Scott Moynes pgpJeORv9sXhA.pgp Description: PGP signatu

Re: Question for the transition

2001-09-04 Thread Robert Kern
On Tue, Sep 04, 2001 at 05:51:12PM -0400, Scott Moynes wrote: [snip] > For what it's worth, Zope is not compatible with python 2.x, and being > a high profile Free software project, I think retaining python 1.5 > simply for Zope may be enough to justify a little bit of hassle. However, Zope 2.4.

Re: Question for the transition

2001-09-04 Thread Neil Schemenauer
Jérôme Marant: > The major question is: do we still need to ship 1.5.2? Unfortunately, > the old python seems to be necessary since some old packages are not > compatible with 2.x versions. Do you know of any? If you can point them out I may be able to help fix them. Scott Moynes wrote: >

Re: Question for the transition

2001-09-04 Thread Scott Moynes
> The major question is: do we still need to ship 1.5.2? Unfortunately, > the old python seems to be necessary since some old packages are not > compatible with 2.x versions. > > I would advice to audit every package in order to see if it can run > with newer pythons and we may come up w

Re: Question for the transition

2001-09-04 Thread Jérôme Marant
Neil Schemenauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Mikael Hedin wrote: > > I think the proposed scheme with python2.1 and module2.0 et.al. is > > really ugly and messy. > > I agree. Didn't the Perl packagers advise us not to go down this > path? There is only one Perl in Debian now , which is 5.6

Re: Question for the transition

2001-09-04 Thread Neil Schemenauer
Mikael Hedin wrote: > I think the proposed scheme with python2.1 and module2.0 et.al. is > really ugly and messy. I agree. Didn't the Perl packagers advise us not to go down this path? Neil

Question for the transition

2001-09-04 Thread Mikael Hedin
Hi, I'm probably missing something big, but here are my thoughts: Why mess with all these versioned python? Could we not have python-base (that will be version 2.1 soon), and for the ones who need, python-base-x.y? And the python-base will be the default/newest available? If packages install