On Wed, 2017-10-04 at 22:47 +0100, Simon McVittie wrote:
> On Wed, 04 Oct 2017 at 14:11:02 -0700, Diane Trout wrote:
> > I do wish that these third party app systems like conda, snappy or
> > flatpak would include metadata like AppStream or DOAP.
>
> Flatpak already does.
Given both flatpak & app
On Wed, 04 Oct 2017 at 14:11:02 -0700, Diane Trout wrote:
> I do wish that these third party app systems like conda, snappy or
> flatpak would include metadata like AppStream or DOAP.
Flatpak already does.
Flatpak apps nearly always include AppStream metadata, which Flatpak's
repository maintenan
> > who says that a "lagging behind" package doesn't have any security
> > issues? If
> > the package is lagging behind, how do you know that security
> > updates aren't
> > lagging behind either...
>
> As this is Debian, I do expect that at least, I can read the security
> tracker to see the cur
On 2017-10-02 10:37, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> On 10/01/2017 11:50 PM, Matthias Klose wrote:
> > Do you want point users to the five year lagging behind eclipse package in
> > Debian?
>
> Why 5 years? We do release stable approx every 2.5 years...
5 years minus 12 days:
Eclipse 3.8.1 has been uploa
On 10/01/2017 11:50 PM, Matthias Klose wrote:
> On 01.10.2017 21:33, Thomas Goirand wrote:
>> On 10/01/2017 09:47 AM, Ghislain Vaillant wrote:
>>> Besides, rrom an end-user perspective, I can't picture anyone preferring
>>> the (potentially lagging) packaged version over more official means like
>>
On Sun, Oct 1, 2017 at 12:26 AM, Ghislain Vaillant wrote:
>
> May I ask what would be the benefit for pycharm to be in Debian, when we
> already have the official Jetbrains Toolbox App or the snap package as means
> to install and update the application?
>From an end user point of view, the benef
Andrey Rahmatullin writes:
> On Sun, Oct 01, 2017 at 06:38:03PM +0200, W. Martin Borgert wrote:
> > PS: Is there maybe something broken with the quoting function of
> > your MUA? I cannot differentiate between text written by you and
> > quoted text. There is no '> ' or whatever...
> That's how t
On Sun, Oct 01, 2017 at 06:38:03PM +0200, W. Martin Borgert wrote:
> PS: Is there maybe something broken with the quoting function of
> your MUA? I cannot differentiate between text written by you and
> quoted text. There is no '> ' or whatever...
That's how text parts of text+html mails often look
On 01.10.2017 21:33, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> On 10/01/2017 09:47 AM, Ghislain Vaillant wrote:
>> Besides, rrom an end-user perspective, I can't picture anyone preferring
>> the (potentially lagging) packaged version over more official means like
>> the Jetbrains app or the snap package, both of whi
On 2017-10-01 23:16, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 01, 2017 at 04:52:55PM +0200, W. Martin Borgert wrote:
> > I usually start to use software, when it arrives in Debian.
> > Or I package it. If there is some snap or other third party
> > package, I'm unsure how to work with it:
> >
> > Ho
On 01/10/17 20:33, Thomas Goirand wrote:
On 10/01/2017 09:47 AM, Ghislain Vaillant wrote:
Besides, rrom an end-user perspective, I can't picture anyone preferring
the (potentially lagging) packaged version over more official means like
the Jetbrains app or the snap package, both of which have be
On 10/01/2017 09:47 AM, Ghislain Vaillant wrote:
> Besides, rrom an end-user perspective, I can't picture anyone preferring
> the (potentially lagging) packaged version over more official means like
> the Jetbrains app or the snap package, both of which have been good at
> keeping up with updates.
On Sun, Oct 01, 2017 at 04:52:55PM +0200, W. Martin Borgert wrote:
> I usually start to use software, when it arrives in Debian.
> Or I package it. If there is some snap or other third party
> package, I'm unsure how to work with it:
>
> How to install?
I expand the tarball to ~
> How to uninsta
On 2017-10-01 17:16, Ghislain Vaillant wrote:
> Most likely a lot. We are talking about a large application with probably
> quite a few dependencies in Java / Kotlin.
>
> Why not? Because failure to commit to regular updates would feed the
> current narrative that Debian ships old and loosely maint
Le 1 oct. 2017 15:53, "W. Martin Borgert" a écrit :
On 2017-10-01 08:26, Ghislain Vaillant wrote:
> May I ask what would be the benefit for pycharm to be in Debian, when we
> already have the official Jetbrains Toolbox App or the snap package as
means
> to install and update the application?
I u
On 2017-10-01 08:26, Ghislain Vaillant wrote:
> May I ask what would be the benefit for pycharm to be in Debian, when we
> already have the official Jetbrains Toolbox App or the snap package as means
> to install and update the application?
I usually start to use software, when it arrives in Debia
Ghislain Vaillant writes:
> All 3 means of installation (Jetbrain's app, snap and potentially apt)
> are one-liners for the end-user. So, ease-of-use is hardly a
> compelling argument.
That's not the argument I made. I am satying that there are people who
are not in the set of people who will in
Le 1 oct. 2017 09:49, "Ben Finney" a écrit :
Ghislain Vaillant writes:
> Don't get me wrong, I understand the rationales from a DFSG
> perspective. I am just questioning whether users of this particular
> piece of software would particularly care.
The same could be asked of many user-facing pa
Ghislain Vaillant writes:
> Don't get me wrong, I understand the rationales from a DFSG
> perspective. I am just questioning whether users of this particular
> piece of software would particularly care.
The same could be asked of many user-facing packages in Debian. Your
question, though, makes
On 01/10/17 08:38, Paul Wise wrote:
On Sun, Oct 1, 2017 at 3:26 PM, Ghislain Vaillant wrote:
May I ask what would be the benefit for pycharm to be in Debian, when we
already have the official Jetbrains Toolbox App or the snap package as means
to install and update the application?
I've never
On Sun, Oct 1, 2017 at 3:26 PM, Ghislain Vaillant wrote:
> May I ask what would be the benefit for pycharm to be in Debian, when we
> already have the official Jetbrains Toolbox App or the snap package as means
> to install and update the application?
I've never heard of the first of those, defin
On 01/10/17 02:36, Paul Wise wrote:
On Sat, Sep 30, 2017 at 10:35 PM, Julien Puydt wrote:
Le 30/09/2017 à 14:22, kamaraju kusumanchi a écrit :
Are there any plans to make a debian package of pycharm that is part
of official debian? I used their community edition on windows 7 and it
is awesome.
On Sat, Sep 30, 2017 at 10:35 PM, Julien Puydt wrote:
> Le 30/09/2017 à 14:22, kamaraju kusumanchi a écrit :
>> Are there any plans to make a debian package of pycharm that is part
>> of official debian? I used their community edition on windows 7 and it
>> is awesome.
>
> Maybe you should look at
Hi,
Le 30/09/2017 à 14:22, kamaraju kusumanchi a écrit :
> Are there any plans to make a debian package of pycharm that is part
> of official debian? I used their community edition on windows 7 and it
> is awesome.
Maybe you should look at WNPP to see if someone filed a RFP or ITP, and
if not, su
Fwiw I have made a pycharm-community-sloppy package available from NeuroDebian
- just wrapped their distribution. Btw seems to work with open jdk just fine.
Packaging for Debian proper would need some Java verse maintainer.
On September 30, 2017 8:22:56 AM EDT, kamaraju kusumanchi
wrote:
>Are
Are there any plans to make a debian package of pycharm that is part
of official debian? I used their community edition on windows 7 and it
is awesome.
thanks
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