Re: python-networkx_1.10-1_amd64.changes ACCEPTED into experimental

2015-09-30 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 09/29/2015 04:02 PM, Tristan Seligmann wrote: > but I'm not sure that having someone > blindly upload my packages if they haven't worked on them before is a > good idea. If this is what you think of my upload, I don't agree with the above wording at least. On 09/29/2015 04:02 PM, Tristan

Re: python-networkx_1.10-1_amd64.changes ACCEPTED into experimental

2015-09-30 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 09/29/2015 02:11 PM, Sandro Tosi wrote: >> Are >> there any specific changes you object to > > As for the technical aspects, tests were disabled mentioning they > access internet (and from the code it is not clear at all if they do, > and I kinda doubt that) It clearly showed access to the

Re: python-networkx_1.10-1_amd64.changes ACCEPTED into experimental

2015-09-30 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 09/29/2015 03:48 PM, Barry Warsaw wrote: > On Sep 29, 2015, at 12:26 PM, Sandro Tosi wrote: > >> Once again, the python policy about Maintainer/Uploaders has been ignored >> >> either policy changes or this has to stop at some point. > > A few observations. > > The policy should perhaps be

Re: python-networkx_1.10-1_amd64.changes ACCEPTED into experimental

2015-09-30 Thread Sandro Tosi
On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 9:12 AM, Thomas Goirand wrote: > On 09/29/2015 02:11 PM, Sandro Tosi wrote: >>> Are >>> there any specific changes you object to >> >> As for the technical aspects, tests were disabled mentioning they >> access internet (and from the code it is not clear

Re: I've been removed from the Python team

2015-09-30 Thread Matthias Klose
kindergarten ... On 30.09.2015 21:41, Thomas Goirand wrote: Hi, Piotr decided to remove me from the Python team. Those who don't agree (especially admins) please voice your concern. It is my view that this is an over reaction and that it should be reverted. Thomas Goirand (zigo)

Re: I've been removed from the Python team

2015-09-30 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 09/30/2015 09:49 PM, Matthias Klose wrote: > kindergarten ... Indeed. We all have better things to do! Thomas

Re: I've been removed from the Python team

2015-09-30 Thread Piotr Ożarowski
[Thomas Goirand, 2015-09-30] > Piotr decided to remove me from the Python team. DPMT and PAPT to be precise, yes > is an over reaction and that it should be reverted. I talked with you many times in private about your involvement in the teams over last ~3 years and since I kind of forced other

I've been removed from the Python team

2015-09-30 Thread Thomas Goirand
Hi, Piotr decided to remove me from the Python team. Those who don't agree (especially admins) please voice your concern. It is my view that this is an over reaction and that it should be reverted. Thomas Goirand (zigo)

Re: python-networkx_1.10-1_amd64.changes ACCEPTED into experimental

2015-09-30 Thread Thomas Kluyver
On Wed, Sep 30, 2015, at 01:53 AM, Thomas Goirand wrote: > This has driven > some contributors away in the past, thinking we don't have team spirit. > IMO, that's truth, and this kind of thread is hurting again. Just to back this up: watching threads like this go past makes working on/with Debian

Re: python-networkx_1.10-1_amd64.changes ACCEPTED into experimental

2015-09-30 Thread Sandro Tosi
On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 11:38 AM, Scott Kitterman wrote: > I'd much prefer he was spending time reviewing jtaylor's patch to fix the > python-numpy FTBFS on powerpc instead of being distracted by this argument. slightly off topic here, but I plan to look at it and (if

Re: python-networkx_1.10-1_amd64.changes ACCEPTED into experimental

2015-09-30 Thread Dimitri John Ledkov
On 30 September 2015 at 10:26, Thomas Kluyver wrote: > On Wed, Sep 30, 2015, at 01:53 AM, Thomas Goirand wrote: >> This has driven >> some contributors away in the past, thinking we don't have team spirit. >> IMO, that's truth, and this kind of thread is hurting again. > >

Re: python-networkx_1.10-1_amd64.changes ACCEPTED into experimental

2015-09-30 Thread Sandro Tosi
> I see nothing wrong with Goirand's upload. I believe Sandro Tosi is > still using the pre-binNMU, pre-NMU, pre-LowNMU, pre-Team packaging > maintenance mentality which is not the commonly accepted behaviour and > mentality in Debian anymore. this is not a binNMU (which is irrelevant here), nor

Re: python-networkx_1.10-1_amd64.changes ACCEPTED into experimental

2015-09-30 Thread Scott Kitterman
On September 30, 2015 6:47:57 AM EDT, Sandro Tosi wrote: >On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 11:38 AM, Scott Kitterman > wrote: >> I'd much prefer he was spending time reviewing jtaylor's patch to fix >the python-numpy FTBFS on powerpc instead of being distracted by

Re: python-networkx_1.10-1_amd64.changes ACCEPTED into experimental

2015-09-30 Thread Sandro Tosi
On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 9:53 AM, Thomas Goirand wrote: > On 09/29/2015 03:48 PM, Barry Warsaw wrote: >> On Sep 29, 2015, at 12:26 PM, Sandro Tosi wrote: >> >>> Once again, the python policy about Maintainer/Uploaders has been ignored >>> >>> either policy changes or this has to

RFS updating the setuptools-scm and mistune packages

2015-09-30 Thread Julien Puydt
Hi, I made the following changes to both setuptools-scm and mistune : * New upstream release. * Switch maintainership from DPMT to myself. Those packages both have their previous versions in testing+unstable. They are available from here:

Re: python-networkx_1.10-1_amd64.changes ACCEPTED into experimental

2015-09-30 Thread Scott Kitterman
On September 30, 2015 6:27:02 AM EDT, Dimitri John Ledkov wrote: >On 30 September 2015 at 10:26, Thomas Kluyver >wrote: >> On Wed, Sep 30, 2015, at 01:53 AM, Thomas Goirand wrote: >>> This has driven >>> some contributors away in the past, thinking we

Re: Maintainer vs. Uploaders

2015-09-30 Thread Sandro Tosi
On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 3:30 PM, Piotr Ożarowski wrote: > [Barry Warsaw, 2015-09-29] >> How should the change be acknowledged by the >> maintainer? Should I Cc the mailing list when I contact the maintainer? Is > > do we really need a written policy how to contact fellow

Re: python-networkx_1.10-1_amd64.changes ACCEPTED into experimental

2015-09-30 Thread Tristan Seligmann
On Wed, 30 Sep 2015 at 10:45 Thomas Goirand wrote: > On 09/29/2015 04:02 PM, Tristan Seligmann wrote: > > but I'm not sure that having someone > > blindly upload my packages if they haven't worked on them before is a > > good idea. > > If this is what you think of my upload, I

Re: I've been removed from the Python team

2015-09-30 Thread Ian Cordasco
On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 5:04 PM, Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote: > On mer. 30 sept. 2015 à 23:13:26, Piotr Ożarowski wrote: >> [Thomas Goirand, 2015-09-30] >> > Piotr decided to remove me from the Python team. >> >> DPMT and PAPT to be precise, yes >> >> > is an over reaction and

Re: I've been removed from the Python team

2015-09-30 Thread Pierre-Elliott Bécue
On mer. 30 sept. 2015 à 23:13:26, Piotr Ożarowski wrote: > [Thomas Goirand, 2015-09-30] > > Piotr decided to remove me from the Python team. > > DPMT and PAPT to be precise, yes > > > is an over reaction and that it should be reverted. > > I talked with you many times in private about your

Re: I've been removed from the Python team

2015-09-30 Thread Scott Kitterman
On September 30, 2015 6:43:09 PM EDT, "Pierre-Elliott Bécue" wrote: >Le 1 octobre 2015 00:25:55 GMT+02:00, Ian Cordasco > a écrit : >>On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 5:04 PM, Pierre-Elliott Bécue > >>wrote: >>> On mer. 30 sept. 2015 à

Re: I've been removed from the Python team

2015-09-30 Thread Steve Langasek
Hi Pierre-Elliott, On Thu, Oct 01, 2015 at 12:04:14AM +0200, Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote: > On mer. 30 sept. 2015 à 23:13:26, Piotr Ożarowski wrote: > > [Thomas Goirand, 2015-09-30] > > > Piotr decided to remove me from the Python team. > > DPMT and PAPT to be precise, yes > > > is an over

Re: I've been removed from the Python team

2015-09-30 Thread Pierre-Elliott Bécue
Le 1 octobre 2015 00:25:55 GMT+02:00, Ian Cordasco a écrit : >On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 5:04 PM, Pierre-Elliott Bécue >wrote: >> On mer. 30 sept. 2015 à 23:13:26, Piotr Ożarowski wrote: >>> [Thomas Goirand, 2015-09-30] >>> > Piotr decided to remove me

Re: python-networkx_1.10-1_amd64.changes ACCEPTED into experimental

2015-09-30 Thread Sandro Tosi
On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 4:12 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote: > On 09/30/2015 12:38 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: >> He knew it violated team norms and just didn't care. > > That's not what I wrote. > > I went into packages.d.o, saw DPMT, and a bit too fast, thought it was > team

Re: python-networkx_1.10-1_amd64.changes ACCEPTED into experimental

2015-09-30 Thread Sandro Tosi
On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 4:26 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote: > On 09/30/2015 12:45 PM, Sandro Tosi wrote: >> nor is uploading a package just for their own interest and then let >> the maintainer fix the mistakes done. This has happened in the past, >> most of the times with Thomas,

Re: python-networkx_1.10-1_amd64.changes ACCEPTED into experimental

2015-09-30 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 09/30/2015 05:40 PM, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: > On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 05:26:08PM +0200, Thomas Goirand wrote: >> I've done hundreds of uploads. Lots of them uploading stuff maintained >> within the DPMT. So far, only a single person complained... > That's not really true. Ah, correct, there

Re: python-networkx_1.10-1_amd64.changes ACCEPTED into experimental

2015-09-30 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 05:26:08PM +0200, Thomas Goirand wrote: > I've done hundreds of uploads. Lots of them uploading stuff maintained > within the DPMT. So far, only a single person complained... That's not really true. -- WBR, wRAR signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: python-networkx_1.10-1_amd64.changes ACCEPTED into experimental

2015-09-30 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 09/30/2015 11:15 AM, Sandro Tosi wrote: > yeah that's it, you care only about pkg-openstack and has no interest > to be a member of this team No ! > (as it's proved by the fact you keep > uploading general-purposes python modules under pkg-openstak umbrella) This is due to the fact we're not

Re: python-networkx_1.10-1_amd64.changes ACCEPTED into experimental

2015-09-30 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 09/30/2015 12:38 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: > He knew it violated team norms and just didn't care. That's not what I wrote. I went into packages.d.o, saw DPMT, and a bit too fast, thought it was team maintained and that an upload would be accepted. Yes, I knew the rule, but no I didn't just

Re: python-networkx_1.10-1_amd64.changes ACCEPTED into experimental

2015-09-30 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 09/30/2015 12:45 PM, Sandro Tosi wrote: > nor is uploading a package just for their own interest and then let > the maintainer fix the mistakes done. This has happened in the past, > most of the times with Thomas, that's enough. Sandro, I've done hundreds of uploads. Lots of them uploading

Re: python-networkx_1.10-1_amd64.changes ACCEPTED into experimental

2015-09-30 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 09/30/2015 11:15 AM, Sandro Tosi wrote: > so long for "Finger-pointing is pointless loss of time for everyone." > just a few lines above.. It wasn't the goal of my 2 examples.