Re: Python talks at DebConf

2010-05-18 Thread Cyril Brulebois
anatoly techtonik (18/05/2010): > Please translate to simple English. This was simple English, even French guys understood it… Mraw, KiBi. signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Python versions for Ubuntu 10.10 (Maverick Meerkat)

2010-05-18 Thread Sandro Tosi
Hi Barry, thanks for your interest for Debian too :) On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 23:50, Barry Warsaw wrote: > On May 18, 2010, at 02:30 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: >>We did make the assumption that by the time 2.7 is released Debian will be in >>freeze. Even if it won't be in freeze yet, it will soon

Re: Python versions for Ubuntu 10.10 (Maverick Meerkat)

2010-05-18 Thread Barry Warsaw
On May 18, 2010, at 02:30 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: >As is usual for discussions involving more than one person, we didn't all >leave the room with quite the same understanding. I think 2.7 as default is a >stretch goal at most. We want 2.7 as a supported version, but I didn't sense >a lot of app

Re: Python talks at DebConf

2010-05-18 Thread anatoly techtonik
2010/5/11 Piotr Ożarowski : > > Why am I mentioning Ubuntu at all? Because all decisions about Python in > Debian are made there. > > Do you still want me to answer your questions or is it clear already why > I am acting as an asshole? I can't see an asshole action so fat. The thing that troubles

Re: Python talks at DebConf

2010-05-18 Thread Sandro Tosi
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 23:01, anatoly techtonik wrote: > On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 9:57 PM, Sandro Tosi wrote: >> >> Indeed, that's what we expect from the python maintainer: >> >> - understand what changes between to major release >> - prepare a draft for the transition, checking packages that br

Re: Join to team

2010-05-18 Thread Sameer Rahmani
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Re: Python talks at DebConf

2010-05-18 Thread anatoly techtonik
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 9:57 PM, Sandro Tosi wrote: > > Indeed, that's what we expect from the python maintainer: > > - understand what changes between to major release > - prepare a draft for the transition, checking packages that brake > (reporting bugs and hopefully patches) > - get consensus f

Re: Python talks at DebConf

2010-05-18 Thread Sandro Tosi
Hello anatoly, I'm quite tired of your emails where you're only capable of attacking without being able to provide valuable contributions to Debian. from my POV, if you don't like know we do things, then help us fix them and STOP complaining; otherwise, simply choose another distribution and leave

Re: Join to team

2010-05-18 Thread Piotr Ożarowski
[Sameer Rahmani, 2010-05-18] > Hi , i want to join to python-modules and python-apps team . > I want to help team to maintain more and more usefule package. > currently i prepare a simple package call pycalverter. you're in DPMT, welcome :-) -- Piotr Ożarowski Debian GNU/L

Re: Python talks at DebConf

2010-05-18 Thread anatoly techtonik
2010/5/10 Piotr Ożarowski : > > I had to explain many times (mostly to Pylons users) why packages not > touched by Ubuntu developers are not working on Ubuntu, I know the pain. Why...? -- anatoly t. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-python-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscri

Re: Python talks at DebConf

2010-05-18 Thread anatoly techtonik
On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Piotr Ożarowski wrote: > > Why I think derivatives should not add new versions? > * because it's mostly chasing numbers - I'm pretty sure there are not >  more than 10 packages that require Python >= 2.6 and are not easy to >  port to 2.5 in Ubuntu 10.04, Backport

Join to team

2010-05-18 Thread Sameer Rahmani
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi , i want to join to python-modules and python-apps team . I want to help team to maintain more and more usefule package. currently i prepare a simple package call pycalverter. my alioth username is : lxsameer-guest i would be glad if you let me in

Re: Python talks at DebConf

2010-05-18 Thread anatoly techtonik
On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 11:51 AM, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote: \>> 80kb of duplicated >> code (even 8Mb) doesn't worth wasted time for troubleshooting in 2010. >> It may be a reason for security, but why not just let packages >> register their used version in Debian registry and track it there? >

Re: Python talks at DebConf

2010-05-18 Thread anatoly techtonik
On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 1:58 PM, Jakub Wilk wrote: > * anatoly techtonik , 2010-05-08, 07:16: >> >> Cover stdeb (anything else?), the reasons (if any) political and >> technical, why it (or anything else) can not be used instead >> unpythonic and unfamiliar make/debhelper stuff. It is not really >>

Improved Python 3 Support In Debian

2010-05-18 Thread Scott Kitterman
Last night I started looking at porting pyversions to Python 3 with the idea of providing a py3versions in python3-defaults. The plan would be to have python3.1 as the default and only supported version for Squeeze. The goal is to have the run time requirements for python3 not require python2.

Re: Python versions for Ubuntu 10.10 (Maverick Meerkat)

2010-05-18 Thread Scott Kitterman
"Barry Warsaw" wrote: >So, on to Python... > >I've started a wiki page which I'll use to collate all the work on Python >versions for Ubuntu 10.10: > >https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MaverickMeerkat/TechnicalOverview/Python > >In summary, we would really like Maverick to ship Python 2.6, 2.7, and 3.2 >

Re: Python versions for Ubuntu 10.10 (Maverick Meerkat)

2010-05-18 Thread Barry Warsaw
On May 18, 2010, at 10:52 AM, Kumar Appaiah wrote: >On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 11:38:23AM -0400, Barry Warsaw wrote: >> First, let me thank the DPL Stefano Zacchiroli for coming to UDS-M and >> representing the Debian community. It was really great meeting and having a >> chance to talk with him. H

Re: Python versions for Ubuntu 10.10 (Maverick Meerkat)

2010-05-18 Thread Kumar Appaiah
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 11:38:23AM -0400, Barry Warsaw wrote: > First, let me thank the DPL Stefano Zacchiroli for coming to UDS-M and > representing the Debian community. It was really great meeting and having a > chance to talk with him. He's encouraged me to apply for DD status and I > think I

Python versions for Ubuntu 10.10 (Maverick Meerkat)

2010-05-18 Thread Barry Warsaw
Now that the Ubuntu Developer Summit is over, I'll be able to catch up on this mailing list. However I wanted to take a moment to summarize the session we had on Python versions for Maverick Meerkat (Ubuntu 10.10). First, let me thank the DPL Stefano Zacchiroli for coming to UDS-M and representin