Re: packaging DiscoDOS - a cli tool for vinyl DJs
❦ 16 mai 2020 08:09 -04, Paul Tagliamonte: >> > Would it be fair to say that your main objection is that Ubuntu has >> > much higher popularity than Debian >> >> This is what I regret, indeed. It's been like that for many years, and >> the trend isn't reversing. We should ask ourselves why. From my point of >> view, I see it as a problem of marketing more than OS content or >> technical excellence. > > No, I think they do things better. Their installer is much better, and it's > a *lot* easier to switch. They had signed UEFI images before us, > and they enable things like firmware for wifi cards. This allows > Ubuntu to be easier for non-technical users to install computers > without understanding main vs contrib vs nonfree, how to disable > SecureBoot or what a firmware package is. We have lessons > to learn about usability and we've not learned them, and remained > stubborn about it. Also for servers: - official cloud images far before us (kudos to Zigo for bootstrapping the effort on our side) - PPA - HWE kernels We still have some things better than Ubuntu: - backports - security support - not converting everything to Snaps -- There is a great discovery still to be made in Literature: that of paying literary men by the quantity they do NOT write. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
DD Ping - New upstream release for python-rq
Hello I packaged a new release for python-rq [1]. Please, consider review and upload. [1] https://salsa.debian.org/python-team/modules/python-rq Greetings, Marcos
Re: Bug#953970: Taking over DPMT (Was: python-boto: autopkgtest failure with Python 3.8 as default)
On 5/16/20 11:02 AM, Andreas Tille wrote: > On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 10:20:24PM -0400, Noah Meyerhans wrote: >> Control: tags -1 + patch >> >>> I'll move this package to a cloud-team repository and prepare an upload >>> to unstable on Monday if nobody beats me to it. >> >> https://salsa.debian.org/cloud-team/python-boto/-/merge_requests/1 > > Could somebody from the cloud-team please merge and upload? > I'm not a member of this team and can not do anything here. > > Thanks a lot > > Andreas. > Merged, built and uploaded. Cheers, Thomas Goirand (zigo)
Re: packaging DiscoDOS - a cli tool for vinyl DJs
On 5/16/20 3:36 AM, Paul Wise wrote: > Would it be fair to say that your main objection is that Ubuntu has > much higher popularity than Debian This is what I regret, indeed. It's been like that for many years, and the trend isn't reversing. We should ask ourselves why. From my point of view, I see it as a problem of marketing more than OS content or technical excellence. > and so the Ubuntu policy to work > upstream where possible leads people to come to Debian without > necessarily caring about the Debian community or users but more about > Ubuntu users? We are lucky this happens. > Personally, I think over the years Ubuntu's Debian involvement has > been a net positive for Debian Indeed. > both in terms of packaging and other > technical changes and in terms of attracting new contributors, often > Ubuntu migrants end up contributing to Debian more than Ubuntu. I > think the same goes for derivatives in general. That's truth. I am very thankful for Canonical to contribute things like Grub, Python, MySQL and many other things directly in Debian. It's very nice that some full time employees can take care of stuff like that. It's also nice that some components are explicitly worked on to be the same in both distros. I also like the fact that they push contributors to work on upstream Debian. Never the less, I've seen multiple occurrences where some people vaguely knew what Ubuntu was, but never heard of Debian. Saw others saying wrong things, like Ubuntu was updating faster (which is wrong, as packages are updated in Sid first). And many other things of that type. Isn't it legitimate that I'm asking myself why? Shouldn't the Debian project try to question its image? Cheers, Thomas Goirand (zigo)
Re: Disparaging people's motivation to contribute to Debian
> as what I originally wanted to say. > > Does it make more sense now? Yes. All fine now. And not fine. It will never be "all fine" My point: Let go, let go
Re: Bug#953970: Taking over DPMT (Was: python-boto: autopkgtest failure with Python 3.8 as default)
On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 10:20:24PM -0400, Noah Meyerhans wrote: > Control: tags -1 + patch > > > I'll move this package to a cloud-team repository and prepare an upload > > to unstable on Monday if nobody beats me to it. > > https://salsa.debian.org/cloud-team/python-boto/-/merge_requests/1 Could somebody from the cloud-team please merge and upload? I'm not a member of this team and can not do anything here. Thanks a lot Andreas. -- http://fam-tille.de
Re: Disparaging people's motivation to contribute to Debian was: Re: packaging DiscoDOS - a cli tool for vinyl DJs
On 5/15/20 10:42 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: > On Friday, May 15, 2020 4:36:52 PM EDT Thomas Goirand wrote: >> On 5/15/20 7:09 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: >>> On Friday, May 15, 2020 12:55:48 PM EDT Thomas Goirand wrote: On 5/15/20 5:43 PM, jojo wrote: > Hi, > > I'd like to join the list because I think my software is a valuable > addition to the debian universe, my ultimate goal would be to bring it > into Ubuntu Studio because it is music-related. I really think it's a shame that people join Debian just because of Ubuntu... :( >>> >>> Thomas, >>> >>> Ask yourself if you are modelling being a member of a welcoming community >>> here? >>> >>> There are lots of examples of people who initially became interested in >>> Debian via Ubuntu and are good Debian contributors and project members. >>> >>> You are free to think whatever you want, but I don't think this kind of >>> sentiment has any place on Debian lists. >>> >>> Scott K >> >> This was kind of rhetorical, and it is my believe that if it is the way >> it is, *we* are at fault, globally in Debian. I'm just not sure how to >> fix that. I BTW don't agree with you, and IMO, this has some place on >> the Debian lists. Having Debian (directly) appealing to everyone is very >> important topic. >> >> Of course, Jojo is very much welcome, and I'm sorry that you take it >> this way. I've pointed at many docs to help, so I very much believe he >> knows I warmly welcome him. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Thomas Goirand (zigo) > > If you don't actually think it's a shame he wants to participate in Debian, > it > might be better not to say so. I should be more careful with my choice of words. If I'm not mistaking, in English, "it's a shame" can have 2 meanings. One is like "shame on you", which isn't what I meant. The other one is "I regret that", which was what I originally wanted to say. Does it make more sense now? Cheers, Thomas Goirand (zigo)
Bug#960744: ITP: python-aioinflux -- Asynchronous Python client for InfluxDB
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Arto Jantunen * Package name: python-aioinflux Version : 0.9.0 Upstream Author : Gustavo Bezerra * URL : https://github.com/gusutabopb/aioinflux * License : MIT Programming Lang: Python Description : Asynchronous Python client for InfluxDB Asynchronous Python client for InfluxDB. Built on top of aiohttp and asyncio. Aioinflux is an alternative to the official InfluxDB Python client. . Aioinflux supports interacting with InfluxDB in a non-blocking way by using aiohttp. It also supports writing and querying of Pandas dataframes, among other handy functionality. I will maintain this under the DPMT.
