Re: numpy 1.2.1, switching to git?

2008-12-24 Thread Ben Finney
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Re: numpy 1.2.1, switching to git?

2008-12-21 Thread Ben Finney
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Re: help with writing a PEP to ease software distribution

2008-09-30 Thread Ben Finney
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Re: pyinstall: A New Hope

2008-09-25 Thread Ben Finney
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pyinstall: A New Hope

2008-09-24 Thread Ben Finney
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Re: Joining the team with new packages: rope and ropemacs

2008-07-29 Thread Ben Finney
it almost meaningless. -- \ “One seldom discovers a true believer that is worth knowing.” | `\ —Henry L. Mencken | _o__) | Ben Finney -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED

dh_pycentral and dh_pysupport clash

2008-07-04 Thread Ben Finney
to the wrong which I condemn.” —Henry Thoreau, _Civil | _o__)Disobedience_ | Ben Finney -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: dh_pycentral and dh_pysupport clash

2008-07-04 Thread Ben Finney
Ben Finney [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: = .PHONY: install install: build dh --with python_central install --before pysupport dh --with python_central install --after pysupport .PHONY: binary-indep binary-indep: build install dh --with python_central binary-indep

FHS location for locally-compiled bytecode (was: FHS location for Python libraries as locally-compiled bytecode)

2008-07-04 Thread Ben Finney
A little while ago on debian-python, we discussed the location of system files that are executable bytecode, created by package management tools at install time, and how to comply with th FHS. Ben Finney [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Josselin Mouette [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As for the FHS

Re: debhelper 7 and python-central

2008-05-20 Thread Ben Finney
Pierre Habouzit [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 11:20:10PM +, Ben Finney wrote: Floris Bruynooghe [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: /var/lib : Variable state information [...] State information is data that programs modify while they run, and that pertains to one

Re: debhelper 7 and python-central

2008-05-20 Thread Ben Finney
Pierre Habouzit [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 10:59:05AM +, Ben Finney wrote: What makes you think 'foo.pyc' is /var material? Oh yes that seems obvious to me. In fact, I'd say it should be /var/cache material because: + it's not mandatory to have it, python

FHS location for Python libraries as locally-compiled bytecode (was: debhelper 7 and python-central)

2008-05-20 Thread Ben Finney
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Re: debhelper 7 and python-central

2008-05-19 Thread Ben Finney
. -- \ It seems intuitively obvious to me, which means that it might | `\be wrong. -- Chris Torek | _o__) | Ben Finney -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject

Proposed new package, bugs-everywhere_0.0.193-1.1

2008-04-21 Thread Ben Finney
to | `\ ask is if they ever press charges. -- Jack Handey | _o__) | Ben Finney -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Check license and copyright of files in entire tree

2008-04-21 Thread Ben Finney
Mike Hommey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 11:27:18PM +1000, Ben Finney wrote: $ licensecheck --recursive --copyright . Just don't forget that it will skip a lot of file types by default. Thanks. From the program source, the default regex for files to check

Re: handling /usr/local/lib/python2.x/site-packages in sys.path

2008-03-25 Thread Ben Finney
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Debian Python developers, make your packaging concerns known (was: Current distutils-sig discussion on package management)

2008-03-19 Thread Ben Finney
Ben Finney [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The Python distutils-sig group is currently discussing the topic of package management, how setuptools interacts with package managers, and what changes are desirable as a result. URL:http://mid.gmane.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED] [...] I urge anyone

Re: Debian Python developers, make your packaging concerns known

2008-03-19 Thread Ben Finney
Matthias Klose [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ben Finney writes: I have no knowledge of *what* the problems are; I only know that there are people in this group who persistently complain about how Python's current packaging practices are broken with respect to Debian packaging

Re: Debian Python developers, make your packaging concerns known

2008-03-19 Thread Ben Finney
Ben Finney [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: An explicit request to discuss Python packaging has been made (in a new thread started today). URL:http://mid.gname.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sorry, URL:http://mid.gmane.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED] is the correct one. -- \ Well, my brother says Hello

Current distutils-sig discussion on package management

2008-03-18 Thread Ben Finney
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Re: Debian 4.1 and Python 2.5

2008-02-13 Thread Ben Finney
in newspapers is absolutely true, except | `\for that rare story of which you happen to have first-hand | _o__) knowledge. -- Erwin Knoll | Ben Finney -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [python-odtwriter] package name wrong?

2008-02-10 Thread Ben Finney
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Re: Python modules not installed correctly with pycentral

2008-01-08 Thread Ben Finney
, Pooh Bear, said Eeyore gloomily. If it is a | `\ good morning, he said. Which I doubt, said he. —A. A. | _o__) Milne, _Winnie-the-Pooh_ | Ben Finney -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact

debian/rules, moving generated egg-info directory to unversioned name

2008-01-08 Thread Ben Finney
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Re: debhelper for python-central, problems with prerm/postinst

2008-01-07 Thread Ben Finney
Vincent Bernat [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, 07 Jan 2008 18:17:34 +1100, Ben Finney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, how do Python-language packagers work around this bug currently? I don't use dh_installinit and I put the correct snippet in postinst/prerm by hand, waiting for the bug

Python modules not installed correctly with pycentral

2008-01-06 Thread Ben Finney
, | `\ via Lily Tomlin | _o__) | Ben Finney -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Python modules not installed correctly with pycentral

2008-01-06 Thread Ben Finney
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debhelper for python-central, problems with prerm/postinst (was: Python modules not installed correctly with pycentral)

2008-01-06 Thread Ben Finney
, Ben Finney [EMAIL PROTECTED] disait: Should the default placement of 'dh_pycentral' be changed so that 'pycentral' is run early enough for programs in the package that depend on the installed modules? Well, if you can change the order for postinst, you will get wrong order in prerm

Re: Packaging software for Cheeseshop and Debian

2007-10-28 Thread Ben Finney
Sam Clegg [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, 2007-10-24 at 22:10 +1000, Ben Finney wrote: What packages in Debian can people recommend that use setuptools properly, and are packaged in accordance with the latest Debian Python policy? Or is it simply the case that no packages meet

Re: Packaging software for Cheeseshop and Debian

2007-10-24 Thread Ben Finney
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Re: Packaging software for Cheeseshop and Debian

2007-10-24 Thread Ben Finney
was a woman, the | `\ other was a man. -- Ashleigh Brilliant | _o__) | Ben Finney -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Packaging software for Cheeseshop and Debian

2007-10-21 Thread Ben Finney
Sam Clegg [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, 2007-10-11 at 11:08 +1000, Ben Finney wrote: So, I ask for help with this specific package, in the hope that I can learn more general lessons about packaging software for both Python's Cheeseshop and the Debian package system. From the looks

Re: Packaging software for Cheeseshop and Debian

2007-10-16 Thread Ben Finney
Ben Finney [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In the thread Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED], I asked about package-private modules interacting with setuptools and the Debian Python policy. In retrospect it seems I've got some more fundamental learning to do. I'm not well-versed in Python setuptools

Re: Tool support for private modules

2007-10-11 Thread Ben Finney
Josselin Mouette [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Le jeudi 11 octobre 2007 à 10:50 +1000, Ben Finney a écrit : The main reason I use distutils is to assist those people using operating systems that *don't* have good package dependency management, which seems to be the primary target market

Re: Tool support for private modules

2007-10-10 Thread Ben Finney
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Packaging software for Cheeseshop and Debian

2007-10-10 Thread Ben Finney
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Re: Tool support for private modules

2007-10-10 Thread Ben Finney
Ben Finney [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The main reason I use distutils is to assist those people using operating systems that *don't* have good package dependency management, which seems to be the primary target market for setuptools. This should, of course, read The main reason I use

Re: Tool support for private modules

2007-10-02 Thread Ben Finney
(Please preserve attribution lines on quoted material. I don't know who wrote what in the following.) Josselin Mouette [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Le lundi 01 octobre 2007 à 23:56 +1000, Ben Finney a écrit : Hmm. I am hoping that modify the programs [to add an absolute path to the search

Re: Tool support for private modules

2007-10-01 Thread Ben Finney
Josselin Mouette [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Le lundi 01 octobre 2007 à 14:42 +1000, Ben Finney a écrit : But the Python distutils and setuptools will install the modules to /usr/lib/site-python/. Hrm, they shouldn't. With a default setup, public modules are shipped to /usr/lib/python2.X

Re: Tool support for private modules

2007-10-01 Thread Ben Finney
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Re: Tool support for private modules

2007-10-01 Thread Ben Finney
Josselin Mouette [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Le lundi 01 octobre 2007 à 18:37 +1000, Ben Finney a écrit : How can I use the tools available — distutils, setuptools, debhelper — to install these package-specific modules to a package-specific location, such that all the programs

Re: Tool support for private modules

2007-10-01 Thread Ben Finney
Ben Finney [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How can I best conform to the [Debian policy for Python modules specific to a single package]? As an example, here's a Python package I'm trying to get packaged for Debian. (I am the upstream author of this one, but I'm interested in a solution

Tool support for private modules

2007-09-30 Thread Ben Finney
to the policy. -- \ God forbid that any book should be banned. The practice is as | `\ indefensible as infanticide. -- Dame Rebecca West | _o__) | Ben Finney -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Python Egg Guidelines across distros

2007-09-07 Thread Ben Finney
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Re: unicode in setup.py file causing RC bug

2007-05-07 Thread Ben Finney
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Re: Upstream Makefile, debian/rules, eggs, building and installing

2007-03-21 Thread Ben Finney
Raphael Hertzog [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, 21 Mar 2007, Ben Finney wrote: How should the Debian packaging files interact with this? Examples I've seen for using python-central have the egg being built in the Debian-specific debian/rules targets, but this is clearly duplication

Re: Proposed update to the python policy

2007-03-21 Thread Ben Finney
that concurrently installed. -- \ Don't worry about what anybody else is going to do. The best | `\ way to predict the future is to invent it. -- Alan Kay | _o__) | Ben Finney -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL

Using python-central for pure-Python package (was: dpkg-gencontrol: warning: unknown substitution variable ${python:Depends})

2007-03-20 Thread Ben Finney
of all follies is to believe passionately in | `\ the palpably not true. It is the chief occupation of mankind. | _o__) -- Henry L. Mencken | Ben Finney -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact

Re: Using python-central for pure-Python package

2007-03-20 Thread Ben Finney
who is denied the opportunity of taking decisions of | `\ importance begins to regard as important the decisions he is | _o__) allowed to take. -- C. Northcote Parkinson | Ben Finney -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble

Upstream Makefile, debian/rules, eggs, building and installing

2007-03-20 Thread Ben Finney
of Python packages, so I'm asking here. -- \ Quote me as saying I was mis-quoted. -- Groucho Marx | `\ | _o__) | Ben Finney -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email

Re: dpkg-gencontrol: warning: unknown substitution variable ${python:Depends}

2007-03-19 Thread Ben Finney
Raphael Hertzog [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, 19 Mar 2007, Ben Finney wrote: [dpkg-gencontrol complains about unknown substitution variables] dh_pycentral should do it for you... I am using dh_pycentral (as noted in my original message). Or do you mean that, since I'm using

Re: dpkg-gencontrol: warning: unknown substitution variable ${python:Depends}

2007-03-19 Thread Ben Finney
Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ben Finney wrote: Earlier, I had Depends: ${python:Depends}, ${shlibs:Depends}, ${misc:Depends} By removing misc:Depends, you are simply potentially shooting yourself in the foot. Fair enough. and 'dpkg-gencontrol' complained about every one

Re: dpkg-gencontrol: warning: unknown substitution variable ${python:Depends}

2007-03-19 Thread Ben Finney
freedom heartily, but good men; the rest love | `\not freedom, but license. -- John Milton | _o__) | Ben Finney -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact

Re: dpkg-gencontrol: warning: unknown substitution variable ${python:Depends}

2007-03-19 Thread Ben Finney
What other changes do I need to make for an 'arch: all' Python package? -- \When you go in for a job interview, I think a good thing to | `\ ask is if they ever press charges. -- Jack Handey | _o__) | Ben

Re: dpkg-gencontrol: warning: unknown substitution variable ${python:Depends}

2007-03-19 Thread Ben Finney
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Re: Packaging for Cheeseshop and Debian

2007-03-15 Thread Ben Finney
Raphael Hertzog [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, 15 Mar 2007, Ben Finney wrote: A module that uses eggs to load another module is certainly egg-ready itself. However if the dependency isn't egg-ready, then the package expecting an egg of its dependency will be broken unless we add the egg

Re: Packaging for Cheeseshop and Debian

2007-03-14 Thread Ben Finney
[Please follow URL:http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/#codeofconduct; I don't ask for copies of list messages to be sent to me, so by default please don't.] Raphael Hertzog [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, 14 Mar 2007, Ben Finney wrote: I have some idea about [Debia packages and Python

Packaging for Cheeseshop and Debian

2007-03-13 Thread Ben Finney
) but I wasn't going to be out that long.' -- Steven Wright | Ben Finney -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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