[Deepak Tripathi, 2010-01-31]
I would like to join Debian Python Module team at Alioth, my alioth id is
deepak-guest.
sure, but... why do you want to join us?
http://wiki.debian.org/Teams/PythonModulesTeam/HowToJoin
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fine with --install-data) ;-)
anyway, even if you'll decide to hardcode the path somewhere, please at
least make it in *one* place (so that it will be easier to patch).
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[Elliot Murphy, 2010-01-31]
All done, committed to svn
uploaded
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[Ludovico Cavedon, 2010-02-19]
Is there any other way to byte-compile only for the default python version?
yes there is: use private directory (--install-lib=/usr/share/foo)
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not to impose strict version dependency (i.e. like python
(=2.5), python (2.6) now for 'current') but simply python,
and only if it is
current, = X.X, X.X
then add additional restrictions?
dh_py* do that... unless you hardcode Python version f.e. in shebang
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/ is the right location (dh_pycentral or dh_pysupport
will move files there at build time and symlink them to the final
location at install time)
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[Josselin Mouette, 2010-03-02]
Le lundi 01 mars 2010 à 17:23 +0100, Piotr Ożarowski a écrit :
[Ritesh Raj Sarraf, 2010-03-01]
I noticed that some of the files from my package get installed into
/usr/share/pyshared/
[...]
What would be the right way to instruct installation
/CoreLib.py
AptOfflineLib.py - aptoffline/lib.py
AptOffline_urlutils.py - aptoffline/urlutils.py
AptOffline_reportbug_exceptions.py - aptoffline/reportbug_exceptions.py
AptOfflineDebianBtsLib.py - aptoffline/DebianBtsLib.py
AptOfflineMagicLib.py - aptoffline/MagicLib.py
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, billiard[3][4] is one for example.
I already read through [5] and my alioth account is fladi-guest.
Welcome in the team! :)
You can find some hints on this[1] wiki page.
[1] http://wiki.debian.org/Teams/PythonModulesTeam/HowToJoin
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to PEP3147), you
can guess some of them from pycompile[1] and pyclean[2] which are mostly
ready. Matthias will include them in python package (and backport my
tiny py_compile.py change[3] which was accepted upstream (thanks
Barry)).
[1] http://people.debian.org/~piotr/pycompile
[2] http
-nose (= 0.9.3), python-serial (= 2.4)
to Depends (looks like we still have pyserial v2.3 in Debian, BTW -
prod doko). It looks like nose is never used at runtime, however,
so I suggest to remove requires.txt from binary package,
* Is Priority really extra?
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On Apr 20, 2010, at 10:14 AM, Piotr Ożarowski wrote:
[Omer Zak, 2010-04-20]
My take of the situation:
Yes, please backport PEP 3147 to at least Python 2.7.
The rationale: we'll need to support both Python 2.x and Python 3.x for
several years
[Barry Warsaw, 2010-04-20]
If 10.10 includes
only Python 2.7, then sure, we'll only back port to that version.
why do you want to backport it to 2.X for a single python2.x package?
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Moreover AFAICT 2.7 is the most compatible-with-the-previous-version
Python release in the last 16 years
did you hear about relative imports in 2.7? (enormous transition for us)
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should be easy to check (by creating 2 simple .py files and running
them using python2.7 from experimental). I'll check it later tonight.
It's not enabled (fails only if I import absolute_import from
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On Apr 21, 2010, at 12:01 AM, Piotr Ożarowski wrote:
2to3 is not reliable, at least not for now.
I agree that there's no way we can just enable it by default. Too many
upstream packages need modifications to work in Python 3. However, for those
that are Python 3
.
There are not so many packages that support Python 3 for now and Lenny
doesn't have it at all so this transition shouldn't be too problematic.
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On May 05, 2010, at 11:54 AM, Piotr Ożarowski wrote:
What do you think about backporting it to Python 3.1 in Squeeze?
[...]
It sounds like a good idea. A few questions:
* Would you enable __pycache__ by default?
yes
* If so, would you provide a command line
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[anatoly techtonik, 2010-05-08]
Why not use virtualenv for Packaging applications?
Every single DD understands that shipping two copies of the same file is
one too many
packages...
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On Mon, 10.05.2010 at 13:23:01 +0200, Piotr O??arowski pi...@debian.org
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derivatives what to do, though. I'd never complain in public and would
let you do whatever you want (that's derivative's right after all)... if
Ubuntu's decisions would not have so
www.griffith.cc that you mention in your .sig, does
not resolve, and afair, Berlios is not a good project host.
To which IP your DNS points you to?
We're moving away from berliOS
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Debian are made there.
Do you still want me to answer your questions or is it clear already why
I am acting as an asshole?
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[Deepak Tripathi, 2010-05-14]
i have updated package pyasn1.
last 5 pyasn1 uploads were done by 5 different sponsors.
The list of potential sponsors will end up soon... ;-P
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of bug fixes ;-)
[¹] actually I didn't test it very carefully yet, I want to implement
few more things before starting serious tests, feel free to report bugs
against python-defaults package or ping me on IRC, though
[²] http://people.debian.org/~piotr/__path__.tar.gz
PS python-defaults 2.6.5-1 has
[Jakub Wilk, 2010-05-16]
* Piotr Ożarowski pi...@debian.org, 2010-05-16, 14:21:
I also plan to rename dh_python2 to dh_python before package will
be uploaded to unstable (and ask debhelper maintainers to remove
theirs or rewrite mine in Perl and move it to debhelper package).
Do you have
packages (although I did not
have much troubles packaging those modules), so I assume that someone
will need to sponsor them - either from this group or from nVidia team.
point us to .dsc file (and consider joining DPMT¹)
[¹] http://wiki.debian.org/Teams/PythonModulesTeam/HowToJoin
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[Sameer Rahmani, 2010-05-18]
Hi , i want to join to python-modules and python-apps team .
I want to help team to maintain more and more usefule package.
currently i prepare a simple package call pycalverter.
you're in DPMT, welcome :-)
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[Piotr Ożarowski, 2010-05-19]
we have experimental for aggressive changes...
unless you wanted to use Debian experimental, debian-python mailing list
and our help since the beginning and later sync it in Ubuntu (if you
decide it's ready and we will not want to make further changes).
If yes
release of python-couchdb - please ping him on
#debian-python (nick: deepak) or send him a mail.
python-couchdbkit's RC bug is actually waiting for #576383
(python-restkit is in NEW already).
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[Barry Warsaw, 2010-05-22]
On May 19, 2010, at 11:00 AM, Piotr Ożarowski wrote:
[Barry Warsaw, 2010-05-18]
We can also recognize that Ubuntu and Debian may ultimately
make different decisions, but they should be one of timing rather than
substance. What I mean by that is that we can use
-foo package in python3-bar's Depends will make it easier
for me)
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On May 23, 2010, at 03:58 PM, Piotr Ożarowski wrote:
[Barry Warsaw, 2010-05-22]
[¹] f.e. changes in API, absolute imports in 2.7 would be one of those,
right now I don't see such changes in 2.7, but I didn't play much
with it yet
Contrary to what PEP 328
[Barry Warsaw, 2010-05-28]
On May 16, 2010, at 02:21 PM, Piotr Ożarowski wrote:
What's missing to have full PEP3147 support?
* PEP 384 implementation (will allow us to share (most?) .so files)
I have a concern about this.
While I understand the motivation, I'm not sure implementing PEP
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On May 28, 2010, at 01:24 PM, Piotr Ożarowski wrote:
[Barry Warsaw, 2010-05-28]
What I mean is, let's say we have to change something in a helper tool. We
want that change to happen at least also in Debian, if not first in Debian,
but because of our different
?
not really, see `man dd-list` and `man mass-bug`
packages¹ listed in above file should be checked anyway - for false
positives or just to check which severity should be used (docstring ones
should be at most minor, IMO)
[¹] egrep -o ^\s+([a-z0-9.\-]*) string-exceptions.ddlist | sort -u
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[W. Martin Borgert, 2010-06-11]
did anyone already put more than one Python source in a Debian
package? I.e. more than one setup.py? Do examples exist? TIA!
Stefano did, see f.e. python-repoze.who-plugins
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[Luca Falavigna, 2010-06-18]
Il 18/06/2010 14.37, Scott Kitterman ha scritto:
XS-Python-Version: = 2.x
XS-Python3-Version: = 3.x
+1 (but with XB-Python-Version, i.e. no XB-Python3-Version)
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ported to Python 3, is available on
Ubuntu for both Python 2 and 3, and wanted one command to install both binary
packages. He was using Synaptic but I don't think that matters.
you mean like `debi foo_1.2-3_amd64.changes` or
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. In the long run, it does stop Python packages
from exposing information externally that has turned out not to be very
useful.
is it worth mentioning migration of XS-Python-Version to
X-Python-Version? Will we ever do that? For what gain?
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specify it once if we can do it in a reasonably
non-convoluted and complete way.
Then at the very least, make your X-Whatever-Ugly-Hack opt-in instead of
requiring it.
it's not required
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[Piotr Ożarowski, 2010-06-24]
[Josselin Mouette, 2010-06-24]
example for default=3.1 minimum=3.2 maximum=3.5:
python-all | python-all (= 3.2), python-all ( 3.5), python-all (=
3.1.2-2)
or even
python-all (= 3.1.2-2) | python-all (= 3.2), python-all ( 3.5)
err, python3-all of course
I
is not mandatory.
why? If py3versions is invoked in debian/rules, then there definitely is
at least one python3-* binary package. Why do you want to make this
field required? I'd make it optional and assume all 3.X versions if
X-P3-V is not set.
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[Andreas Tille, 2010-07-10]
pkg_resources.DistributionNotFound: SQLObject=0.12
python-sqlobject is not shipping egg-info dir/file (anymore?)
ping python-sqlobject maintainer
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/pydist (and yes, I will most probably change version range
meaning a little bit as nobody on #debian-python likes it)
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) then without python-numpy in Depends it will fail at
runtime (on pkg_resources.require('numpy'))
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will be
based on the current versions which are already present.
* Piotr Ożarowski has volunteered to approach the release team to
request freeze exceptions for the python3.x-* binary packages. We
hope that we can convince them to provide the exceptions, since
these are binary packages built out
Hi Release Team,
[I asked you about this issue at DebConf10 and was told to ask via
e-mail again, hence my mail]
Squeeze will support Python 3.1 as the first Python 3.X version in
Debian. Unfortunately, we didn't have much time to start preparing
packages with 3rd party modules/extensions for
packages, or is runpy missing from
python2.6?
it's in python2.6-minimal (which is the right place)
(and I still don't know why it failed)
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[Josselin Mouette, 2010-08-23]
Le dimanche 22 août 2010 à 14:38 +0200, Piotr Ożarowski a écrit :
Apt-file suggests that runpy is only available in python2.7, that is not
installed in my system. But actually, python-markupsafe is not
the only module needing runpy: at least python-imaging
managers' answer to this¹
mail. If they'll tell us to use experimental instead of unstable,
python2.7 in the list of supported Python versions would be problematic
[¹] http://lists.debian.org/debian-release/2010/08/msg01107.html
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[Jon Dowland, 2010-09-03]
Are you folks considering a freeze exception request for
python-tornado?
yes, my sponsoree is preparing a mail to release team. If they will not
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setup.py install call) or simply replace it later with sed
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night (yeah, I have day job and real life as well)
You can always postpone your work until after Squeeze release.
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[Sandro Tosi, 2010-09-16]
On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 09:26, Piotr Ożarowski pi...@debian.org wrote:
and then I will not ask you to test things written last
night (yeah, I have day job and real life as well)
That's not a problem. What I want to know is if the guide you wrote is
already
will tell us about the freeze 6 months in advance and we'll
figure something out with upstream.
[¹] which would be a PITA, I removed like half of dh_python3 after
moving files from /usr/lib/python3.1/dist-packages to
/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages
[²] yes, Wheezy+1, not Squeeze+1
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) and let upstream authors decide
when to bump it, just like C guys do, but that's a topic for
python-devel mailing list...
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[Piotr Ożarowski, 2010-09-21]
[Robert Collins, 2010-09-20]
Path to a solution: use an API marker analgous to the ABI markers C
libraries have. Incompatible changes to a package bump the package
*name*. e.g.
python-zope.publication2.3 to python-zope.publication2.4
Compatible changes
[Simon McVittie, 2010-09-21]
On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 at 10:30:33 +0200, Piotr Ożarowski wrote:
I see only one sane way to fix the problem - changing Python interpreter
to recognize API from filenames, like foo.1.py foo.2.py foo.2.3.py
(with `import foo = 2` as valid syntax) and let upstream
[Barry Warsaw, 2010-09-21]
On Sep 21, 2010, at 10:30 AM, Piotr Ożarowski wrote:
I see only one sane way to fix the problem - changing Python
interpreter to recognize API from filenames, like foo.1.py foo.2.py
foo.2.3.py (with `import foo = 2` as valid syntax) and let upstream
authors decide
[Charlie Smotherman, 2010-09-29]
POX would you please remove pycasa from PAPT. The upstream author has
decided to maintain the package. It has never been uploaded so it is
safe to remove it. Thanks
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developers and upstream authors
about freeze date at least 6 months in advance so that everything can be
planed in a sane way, TIA
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dh_pysupport wrapper if my proposal
will be accepted (it's obviously a sensitive topic, so I'm raising it
now and not after releasing Squeeze).
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[Tomasz Rybak, 2010-11-08]
http://www.bogomips.w.tkb.pl/cuda/pyopencl_0.92-1.dsc
FTR: pyopencl 0.92-1 was uploaded by Serafeim Zanikolas
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* python-xdg is missing in Depends (debdiff, line 1593)
* about adding python (= 2.6) to Depends - dh_python2 will do the
right thing after reading X-Python-Version field (just a hint)
Out of template: Piotr Ożarowski sponsored past uploads of the package,
but he's
sending my patch here, please try to
find bugs so that I can delay sending it to CDBS maintainers and give dh
guys more time. TIA
PS I also added python2 to DEB_PYTHON_SYSTEM keywords (to
support dh_python2) and removed all pycompat stuff
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these small features in
dh_python2 manpage? (I will rewrite it in RST and use rst2man, BTW)
[¹]
http://alioth.debian.org/scm/loggerhead/pkg-python/python-defaults-debian/annotate/head:/debpython/tools.py
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[Jakub Wilk, 2010-11-22]
* Piotr Ożarowski pi...@debian.org, 2010-11-22, 10:54:
[...] (pyinstall doesn't make sense in dh_python3 as you can
simply use dh_install to install into /usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/)?
And what if you'd need install different set of files for 3.X and 3.Y? (I
branch before uploading to experimental (IIRC, you already
have commit rights, though)
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and 3; if there's a separate
setup.py file for Python 3.X, you can set it in DEB_PYTHON3_SETUP_CMD,
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[anatoly techtonik, 2010-12-17]
Can anybody apply this patch to trac-bitten? Seems like everybody who
could do this are busy.
done, thanks
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.py file which will modify
__path__ to point to the newest installed versions (and f.e. check for
WADLIBVERSION env. variable if someone doesn't want the newest version)
but it's an ugly hack and could cause more harm than good, IMHO.
[¹] imagine packaging something written in Ruby
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application uses it), 1, none
of the above, 5
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[Robert Collins, 2011-01-06]
2011/1/6 Piotr Ożarowski pi...@debian.org:
This issue exists with C libraries too, but its not forbidden. Why
should C libraries be expected to permit this, but not Python
libraries?
C libraries are linked at build time, Python libraries at runtime and
C libraries
upstream release
who-uploads mentions Jakub. What did he say when you asked him to upload
these packages? Is he busy?
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[Jakub Wilk, 2011-01-13]
* Piotr Ożarowski pi...@debian.org, 2011-01-11, 11:09:
I would like to refresh the RFS for the following packets:
didjvu 0.2.1-1 - initial release
consider using dh_python2 instead of python-support
Out of curiosity, how is dh_python2 better thant python
[Barry Warsaw, 2011-01-13]
Actually, I think dh_python2 *is* better because the symlinks aren't created
at install time, but instead are included in the package.
we're talking about private modules here, python-support doesn't create
symlinks for private modules
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changes in Lenny's Python inter), it is possible to backport it to Lenny.
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[Sandro Tosi, 2011-01-13]
is this some sort of subliminal message that wheezy is planned to
support only 2.7 ? :)
that's the plan (at least my plan), yes
See http://lists.debian.org/debian-python/2010/10/msg00017.html
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[Barry Warsaw, 2011-01-20]
If I may make a radical suggestion though: what do you think about making
Python 3 the default for Wheezy?
over my dead body ;-P
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or dropping DEB_PYTHON_SYSTEM from debian/rules in most
cases).
[¹] some bugs are already reported: http://deb.li/py27
[²] most recent version: http://deb.li/dhp2
[³] http://wiki.debian.org/Python/support2dhp2
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is one command too many
;-P
[¹] otherwise remove this flag in the repo so that next upload will not
contain it
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[Scott Kitterman, 2011-02-15]
http://ftp-master.debian.org/new/sip4_4.12.1-1.html
and before it will be accepted, these have to be fixed:
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?users=pi...@debian.org;tag=sip4-qt3
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[Ben Finney, 2011-02-21]
Piotr Ożarowski pi...@debian.org writes:
[Vincent Bernat, 2011-02-21]
python (= 2.6.5)
actually, that's 2.6.5-1~ (I'd even bump it to the one released with
Squeeze: 2.6.6-3)
With or without a trailing tilde ‘~’ on the version specification
and pure debhelper debuian/rules files
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[Vincent Bernat, 2011-03-01]
OoO En cette nuit nuageuse du mardi 01 mars 2011, vers 00:53, Piotr
Ożarowski pi...@debian.org disait :
cdbs and dh doesn't support Python 3.X yet. I provided a patch for CDBS
but it was rejected, dunno why.
I suppose that this is bug #604721. Why do
/py26
If you know how to fix one of those bugs or at least want to try to fix
one, let us know on the channel.
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