Re: python2.3/python2.4/python packages

2006-02-21 Thread Donovan Baarda
On Mon, 2006-02-20 at 20:37 +0100, Matthias Klose wrote: Donovan Baarda writes: [...] In the mean time, another alternative is to point your apt/sources.list at an Ubuntu archive and see if you can upgrade python from there... ugh, I would not try that ... you cannot differentiate between

Re: python2.3/python2.4/python packages

2006-02-20 Thread Donovan Baarda
upgrade python from there... -- Donovan Baarda [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://minkirri.apana.org.au/~abo/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??

2005-11-28 Thread Donovan Baarda
, provided it behaves as a non-deb should, it is OK. However, when I want production ready software, I look for debs. If it ain't deb'ed, it's almost certainly not ready for production. If you want your software taken seriously, you want it well deb'ed :-) -- Donovan Baarda [EMAIL PROTECTED] http

Re: [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??

2005-11-28 Thread Donovan Baarda
On Fri, 2005-11-25 at 08:57 -0500, Phillip J. Eby wrote: At 10:29 AM 11/25/2005 +, Donovan Baarda wrote: On Fri, 2005-11-25 at 01:33 -0500, Phillip J. Eby wrote: [...] In the case where the user is *not* using easy_install, then all dependencies will be met by system packages

Re: [Distutils] formencode as .egg in Debian ??

2005-11-24 Thread Donovan Baarda
probably be ignored. Disclaimer: This should not be interpreted as an argument for or against egg's. This thread is the first time I've even heard of them. -- Donovan Baarda [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://minkirri.apana.org.au/~abo/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject

Re: Questions about the Debian Python Policy

2005-10-25 Thread Donovan Baarda
. How will these *.py files be re-compiled when python (2.3) is upgraded to python (2.4)? -- Donovan Baarda [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Questions about the Debian Python Policy

2005-10-24 Thread Donovan Baarda
matches the dependencies. python-epydoc should also directly depend on python if it is to ever benefit from python triggering reconfigures of dependant packages on install. -- Donovan Baarda [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble

Re: Python policy proposed changes

2005-10-18 Thread Donovan Baarda
... -- Donovan Baarda [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Python policy proposed changes

2005-10-13 Thread Donovan Baarda
On Tue, 2005-10-11 at 20:23, Josselin Mouette wrote: Le lundi 10 octobre 2005 à 17:01 +0100, Donovan Baarda a écrit : In 2.2.2, I would remove the only from only supports python versions different from the currrent default one... You can use this for packages that support the current

Re: Python policy proposed changes

2005-10-13 Thread Donovan Baarda
On Tue, 2005-10-11 at 20:29, Josselin Mouette wrote: Le lundi 10 octobre 2005 à 17:14 +0100, Donovan Baarda a écrit : The best person to decide what packages need to support which old versions of python are the package maintainers. They know this based on the requests and bug reports from

Re: Python policy proposed changes

2005-10-10 Thread Donovan Baarda
providing legacy support anyway after a period of time. I have a feeling Zope and Mailman dependencies will end up defining the extent of legacy support. -- Donovan Baarda [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL

Re: Python only packages and the new Python policy

2005-07-06 Thread Donovan Baarda
-central would still be useful for pure-python modules that support multiple pythonX.Y versions. -- Donovan Baarda [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Python only packages and the new Python policy

2005-07-04 Thread Donovan Baarda
using /usr/lib/python/site-packages instead of /usr/lib/site-python. The only reason this is not yet supported is no-one has yet made it work. The closest thing is the work done on python-central... -- Donovan Baarda -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe

Re: Upload of new Python extension packages

2005-06-30 Thread Donovan Baarda
. However, I think supporting multiple versions is very desirable, and think this is probably the best way to handle it for extension modules. -- Donovan Baarda [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Release Team meeting minutes - 2005-06-18

2005-06-20 Thread Donovan Baarda
, it usually means there is no loop, and nothing is getting done at all :-) See http://minkirri.apana.org.au/Wiki/OrganisationTips It also shows how important it is for people to feel informed... even if there is nothing to inform them about. -- Donovan Baarda [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE

Re: Let's think about removing Python 2.1 and 2.2

2005-06-13 Thread Donovan Baarda
. If these are removed from Debian, then we will need an unofficial repository where they can be put for developers who want/need them... and personaly I hate unofficial repositories. -- Donovan Baarda [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact

Re: policy: A single package for all versions

2004-12-10 Thread Donovan Baarda
. There are some problems (mainly .pyc's get recompiled to different versions of python every time root uses them with a different version), but the side-effects are minimal. -- Donovan Baardahttp://minkirri.apana.org.au/~abo/

Re: recommended package for xslt processing in python

2004-08-07 Thread Donovan Baarda
... something I'd almost forgotten about. Donovan Baardahttp://minkirri.apana.org.au/~abo/

Re: Python modules for every supported version

2004-06-16 Thread Donovan Baarda
On Wed, 2004-06-16 at 21:27, Fabio Tranchitella wrote: Il mer, 2004-06-16 alle 04:03, Donovan Baarda ha scritto: [...] Policy? What I missed? I tried to find a Debian Python policy, but I didn't have enough luck. It is not listed on http://www.debian.org/devel/ like the perl policy or the java

Re: Python modules for every supported version

2004-06-15 Thread Donovan Baarda
packages is; if no-one needed them for python2.2 before, why would they need them now? Anything that needs it now will be new, and hence should be using the latest default python. OTOH, if you know people need it and you are prepared to make it, then sure, go for it :-) -- Donovan Baarda [EMAIL

Re: Python modules for every supported version

2004-06-15 Thread Donovan Baarda
to 2.3 was pretty trivial... anyone remember 1.6 to 2.0? Assuming future transitions will be trivial would be unwise. -- Donovan Baarda [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://minkirri.apana.org.au/~abo/

Re: [zope] Zope packaging policy

2004-02-25 Thread Donovan Baarda
-zwiki...). Perhaps a dependency on zopeZ alone without specifying a particular pythonX.Y would fix this? -- Donovan Baarda [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://minkirri.apana.org.au/~abo/

Re: Bug#230704: zope-testcase: SOFTWARE_HOME and INSTANCE_HOME can break install.

2004-02-03 Thread Donovan Baarda
On Tue, Feb 03, 2004 at 07:34:30AM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote: On Tue, 3 Feb 2004, Donovan Baarda wrote: [...] I'll do an upload in the next couple of hours with this changes. [...] BTW, thanks for doing the package... nice work :-) Unsetting of http_proxy is only there to bypass a bug

Re: Bug#230704: zope-testcase: SOFTWARE_HOME and INSTANCE_HOME can break install.

2004-02-02 Thread Donovan Baarda
I'm Cc'ing this to debian-python because it has stuff that can impact on other python packages. On Tue, 2004-02-03 at 06:20, Andreas Tille wrote: On Tue, 3 Feb 2004, Donovan Baarda wrote: Yeah, if the postinst simply unset them both before running at least $PYTHON runalltests.py it should

Re: Bug#226315: ITP: zope-testcase -- unit testing framework and TestCase for Zope (fwd)

2004-01-09 Thread Donovan Baarda
I'm glad to see this. We've been using ZopeTestCase for unit tests on our zope products. I recommend it to anyone doing zope product development. - Original Message - From: Andreas Tille [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Debian Python debian-python@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004

Re: Bug#221523: Causes build failures

2003-11-26 Thread Donovan Baarda
On Sat, 2003-11-22 at 03:13, Josselin Mouette wrote: Le ven 21/11/2003 à 01:49, Donovan Baarda a écrit : Unfortunately, the policy fails to take into account all the source-package and build-depends issues. This means the clean separation of python and pythonX.Y is not actually that clean

Re: Bug#221523: Causes build failures

2003-11-20 Thread Donovan Baarda
traumatic transition. Unfortunately, the policy fails to take into account all the source-package and build-depends issues. This means the clean separation of python and pythonX.Y is not actually that clean... some more work is needed on the policy to resolve these issues. -- Donovan Baarda [EMAIL

Re: Summary of python transition problems

2003-10-13 Thread Donovan Baarda
a different python2.2[-foo] source package that no-longer generates a python[-foo] wrapper. -- Donovan Baarda [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://minkirri.apana.org.au/~abo/

Re: Summary of python transition problems

2003-10-04 Thread Donovan Baarda
On Sun, 2003-10-05 at 02:55, Matthias Klose wrote: Donovan Baarda writes: On Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 02:28:52PM +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote: Hi, Colin Watson wrote: [...] The second problem is is when we get python (2.4), a new python2.3 package will need to be released just to fix

Re: Summary of python transition problems

2003-09-29 Thread Donovan Baarda
it forces the python (2.3) transition which I really don't want to do until it is ready. It doesn't have to be this way. Should someone file a bug report against this? -- Donovan Baarda [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://minkirri.apana.org.au/~abo/

Re: Summary of python transition problems

2003-09-29 Thread Donovan Baarda
On Tue, 2003-09-30 at 06:50, Matthias Klose wrote: Colin Watson writes: On Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 11:29:12PM +1000, Donovan Baarda wrote: what about python2.3 having Depends: python (= 2.3) This is IMHO a policy violation. python (2.3) should depend on python2.3, python2.3 should

Re: Support for Python2.1 and Python2.2

2003-09-10 Thread Donovan Baarda
long should Debian ship python2.1? I'd be inclined to leave them there until they get nasty bug reports that no one can be bothered fixing... drop them as they break, unless demand insists they get fixed, until demand insists they all go away to free up archive space. -- Donovan Baarda [EMAIL

Re: Python policy update

2003-08-24 Thread Donovan Baarda
access. While the old pyc's hang around, they take up space and add slightly more overhead than no pyc's at all (python will try them first before realising they were compiled with the wrong version). -- Donovan Baarda [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://minkirri.apana.org.au/~abo/

Re: pygtk 1.2 - 2 transition, what's the best way ?

2003-08-24 Thread Donovan Baarda
the next week. I dunno when you posted this, but looking at the packages already in testing and unstable it looks like you are already well on the way. What's there already looks pretty good. -- Donovan Baarda [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://minkirri.apana.org.au/~abo/

Re: Python policy update

2003-08-21 Thread Donovan Baarda
nitpick is I think that 3.1. Version Independent Programs should be changed to 3.1. Programs Using the Default Python. Also para 3.2 should probably be renumbered to para 3.1.1 as it applies specifically to programs using the default python. -- Donovan Baarda [EMAIL PROTECTED] http

Re: Python policy update

2003-08-20 Thread Donovan Baarda
). -- Donovan Baarda [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: python 2.2 - python 2.3 transition

2003-08-20 Thread Donovan Baarda
a bug-report. -- Donovan Baarda [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: python 2.2 - python 2.3 transition

2003-08-16 Thread Donovan Baarda
G'day, It's late and I don't have much time... but thought I'd quickly respond to this one; On Sat, 2003-08-16 at 00:20, Matthias Klose wrote: Donovan Baarda writes: But that was kinda the point... you should be able to install a pythonX.Y package without python (X.Y). This way you get

Re: python 2.2 - python 2.3 transition

2003-08-14 Thread Donovan Baarda
the problem? -- Donovan Baarda [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: python 2.2 - python 2.3 transition

2003-08-13 Thread Donovan Baarda
python (2.2) from testing. Testing will not transition to python (2.3) until all the python-foo packages are fixed. -- Donovan Baarda [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://minkirri.apana.org.au/~abo/

Re: python 2.2 to python 2.3 transition

2003-08-12 Thread Donovan Baarda
On Tue, 2003-08-12 at 12:54, Matthias Urlichs wrote: Hi, Donovan Baarda wrote: Using this the python package can notify all packages that depend on it by calling dpkg-reconfigure on them; That would work for me too, of course. egrep ^install ok installed:[^:]*:.*$PYTHONXY

Re: #!/usr/bin/python2.3 vs #!/usr/bin/env python2.3

2003-08-11 Thread Donovan Baarda
installations of python. -- Donovan Baarda [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://minkirri.apana.org.au/~abo/

Re: python 2.2 to python 2.3 transition

2003-08-11 Thread Donovan Baarda
for packages that use debconf. If it does, than an alternative would be to call /var/lib/dpkg/info/$p.postinst configure directly. -- Donovan Baarda [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://minkirri.apana.org.au/~abo/

Re: python 2.2 to python 2.3 transition

2003-08-10 Thread Donovan Baarda
and do this? I think the python-central stuff has most of the code to handle this, it just needs a little bit of tweaking. -- Donovan Baarda [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: python 2.2 to python 2.3 transition

2003-08-10 Thread Donovan Baarda
pythons postinst? Because there are some applications (ie mailman) that have their own python modules that are not on the default python-path. These need to be recompiled too. -- Donovan Baardahttp

Re: python 2.2 to python 2.3 transition

2003-08-10 Thread Donovan Baarda
. -- Donovan Baardahttp://minkirri.apana.org.au/~abo/

Re: python 2.2 to python 2.3 transition

2003-08-10 Thread Donovan Baarda
On Sun, Aug 10, 2003 at 02:58:21PM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: Donovan Baarda writes: Does anyone want me to contibute some code to try and do this? I think the python-central stuff has most of the code to handle this, it just needs a little bit of tweaking. sure, that would be nice

Re: python 2.2 - python 2.3 transition

2003-08-09 Thread Donovan Baarda
cases. There are still some things to be resolved, but these are acknowleged in the policy itself and are slowly getting resolved. -- Donovan Baardahttp://minkirri.apana.org.au/~abo/

Re: version independent pythin packages: ?

2003-08-08 Thread Donovan Baarda
On Fri, 2003-08-08 at 12:50, Donovan Baarda wrote: On Thu, 2003-08-07 at 18:44, Alexandre Fayolle wrote: On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 12:58:25PM +1000, Donovan Baarda wrote: [...] Python applications using the default Python with their own modules not in /usr/lib/site-python... not an issue

Re: version independent pythin packages: ?

2003-08-07 Thread Donovan Baarda
On Thu, 2003-08-07 at 18:44, Alexandre Fayolle wrote: On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 12:58:25PM +1000, Donovan Baarda wrote: [...] Python applications using the default Python with their own modules not in /usr/lib/site-python... not an issue? Actually... I think I prefer /usr/lib/python/site

Re: version independent pythin packages: ?

2003-08-06 Thread Donovan Baarda
-reconfigure. This has the advantage of notifying all these packages when the default python has changed so they can do other stuff if they need to. -- Donovan Baarda [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: python-debconf, Byte compilation and other questions

2003-04-20 Thread Donovan Baarda
On Sat, 2003-04-19 at 15:29, Matthias Klose wrote: Donovan Baarda writes: The things that need resolving, in no particular order; 1) moving /usr/lib/python* into /usr/share/python*. I consider this low priority, but something that should be done one day. There are possibly some issues

Re: python-debconf, Byte compilation and other questions

2003-04-18 Thread Donovan Baarda
On Fri, 2003-04-18 at 19:54, Matthias Klose wrote: [...] And/or take a look at dh_python, which does all this for free... BTW, where can we find this? I'd like to take a look. -- Donovan Baardahttp

Re: python-debconf, Byte compilation and other questions

2003-04-18 Thread Donovan Baarda
when pythonX.Y is removed. -- Donovan Baardahttp://minkirri.apana.org.au/~abo/

Re: pure python and postinst

2003-04-01 Thread Donovan Baarda
. -- Donovan Baardahttp://minkirri.apana.org.au/~abo/

Re: Error message from install of python packages

2003-03-28 Thread Donovan Baarda
On Sat, 2003-03-29 at 01:11, Rasmus Toftdahl Olesen wrote: ons, 2003-03-26 kl. 04:04 skrev [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [Snip] checking for python... /usr/bin/python checking python version... 2.2 The configure script uses python2.2, while the woody python-gtk package is installed in python2.1 - so

Re: ITPing boa-constructor

2003-02-05 Thread Donovan Baarda
On Thu, 2003-02-06 at 06:55, Cédric Delfosse wrote: Hello, I think I am going to ITP boa-constructor (RFP at http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?archive=nobug=101974 ). AFAIK nobody is working on it. Please confirm. Way cool... boa-constructor is very nice. I'm not sure what state

Re: Bug#178373: debconf: severity critical

2003-01-30 Thread Donovan Baarda
On Fri, 2003-01-31 at 09:59, Josselin Mouette wrote: Le jeu 30/01/2003 à 22:42, Bernhard Kuemel a écrit : [...] ImportError: /usr/local/lib/python2.2/lib-dynload/math.so: undefined symbol: PyFPE_jbuf The issue isn't in mailman. You have some

Re: Policy problem

2002-11-16 Thread Donovan Baarda
On Fri, Nov 15, 2002 at 12:16:41PM -0600, Evan Simpson wrote: I'm running into dependency clashes while trying to install wxPython, and looking for help. Since I am a Zope developer, and different versions of Zope rely on different versions of Python, I need to have several versions of

Re: python-central 0.4

2002-10-03 Thread Donovan Baarda
On Thu, Oct 03, 2002 at 05:21:34PM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: Donovan Baarda writes: I wouldn't call moving some files the packaging hell, and I have yet to understand why /usr/lib/mailman is so much saner or better than /usr/lib/python/site-packages/mailman. I looked

Re: python-central 0.4

2002-09-30 Thread Donovan Baarda
On Tue, Oct 01, 2002 at 12:23:38AM +1200, Carey Evans wrote: Donovan Baarda wrote: [...] It might also be nice to have separate files that list the directories or source files to compile for each package, and have python-central call compileall itself, but I guess this is a separate issue

Re: python-central 0.4

2002-09-29 Thread Donovan Baarda
On Sun, Sep 29, 2002 at 12:26:30AM +0200, Bastian Kleineidam wrote: Hi, uploaded the new version 0.4 at http://people.debian.org/~calvin/python-central/ python-central (0.4) unstable; urgency=low * renamed register-python-package to python-register, this way its prefixed with

Re: python-central 0.4

2002-09-29 Thread Donovan Baarda
On Sun, Sep 29, 2002 at 05:51:30PM +0200, Bastian Kleineidam wrote: On Sun, Sep 29, 2002 at 11:29:02PM +1000, Donovan Baarda wrote: I've just had a look at this and it looks good. It perfectly meets the requirement of allowing pure python module packages to support multiple pythonX.Y python

Re: dependencies of non-module packages

2002-09-11 Thread Donovan Baarda
On Sun, Sep 08, 2002 at 02:49:24PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: * Graham Wilson | On Sun, Sep 01, 2002 at 09:08:36AM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: | Until dpkg supports triggers, I think what the emacsen does it the | most sane -- I'd be really, really happy if python modules/apps were

Re: Help needed with #159208

2002-09-06 Thread Donovan Baarda
On Thu, Sep 05, 2002 at 08:49:21AM -0500, Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote: On Thu, Sep 05, 2002 at 07:48:38AM -0500, Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote: [...] Remember, /usr/bin/python is a symlink installed by the python package, and without a dependancy on this package there is no gaurentee that it will

Re: Help needed with #159208

2002-09-05 Thread Donovan Baarda
On Thu, Sep 05, 2002 at 07:48:38AM -0500, Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote: You should depend on exactly the Python versions you support, not on python. For example Depends: python1.5 | python2.1 | python2.2 I see. But why not simply Depends: python (= 1.5) I think this is wrong. If this is

Re: dependencies of non-module packages

2002-08-30 Thread Donovan Baarda
On Mon, Aug 26, 2002 at 09:11:38PM +0200, Federico Di Gregorio wrote: hi, i just had a little email exchange with Christian Kurz about dput and i think the python policy need to be clarified. some background... last upload of python broke dput dependencies: they were python (=

Re: python-central comments

2002-08-26 Thread Donovan Baarda
On Mon, Aug 26, 2002 at 07:55:45AM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: Donovan Baarda writes: On Sat, Aug 24, 2002 at 07:48:31PM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: Some comments: - python-central should have a configuration option, how files are compiled. Most users don't need compilation

Re: python-central comments

2002-08-25 Thread Donovan Baarda
On Sun, Aug 25, 2002 at 09:14:58PM -0500, Graham Wilson wrote: On Mon, Aug 26, 2002 at 10:43:12AM +1000, Donovan Baarda wrote: In the end, I suspect it would be just as easy or easier to re-structure mailman to put it's modules in /usr/lib/python/site-packages. then normal python

Re: what is python-central? [was: Re: Make python2.2 the python default]

2002-08-24 Thread Donovan Baarda
On Fri, Aug 23, 2002 at 11:29:12PM -0500, Graham Wilson wrote: On Fri, Aug 23, 2002 at 11:33:10PM +1000, Donovan Baarda wrote: BTW, what is happening with python-central... is it becoming standard? If so, the pythonX.X packages will need to use it. what is python-central? An experimental

Re: Please remove python1.5 from unstable

2002-08-24 Thread Donovan Baarda
On Fri, Aug 23, 2002 at 06:35:02PM +0200, Martin Sj?gren wrote: fre 2002-08-23 klockan 18.28 skrev Jim Penny: What packages do you have in mind? Some of the c-extension maintainers, myself included, have an informal policy of support everything in the distribution, but do not have any

Re: Make python2.2 the python default

2002-08-24 Thread Donovan Baarda
On Sat, Aug 24, 2002 at 12:52:33AM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: Anthony Towns writes: On Fri, Aug 23, 2002 at 11:33:10PM +1000, Donovan Baarda wrote: On Fri, Aug 23, 2002 at 01:48:36PM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: I'm planning to make python2.2 the python default version for unstable

Re: Make python2.2 the python default

2002-08-23 Thread Donovan Baarda
On Fri, Aug 23, 2002 at 01:48:36PM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: I'm planning to make python2.2 the python default version for unstable next week (uploading the packages on 2002-08-28). Preliminary packages can be found at http://ftp-master.debian.org/~doko/python/ Please send

Re: MailMan Security patch for Woody Broken?

2002-08-18 Thread Donovan Baarda
On Thu, Aug 15, 2002 at 09:22:51PM +0200, Florent Rougon wrote: Matt Zimmerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Python 1.5.2 (#0, Jan 13 2002, 13:19:04) [GCC 2.95.4 20011223 (Debian prerelease)] on linux2 Copyright 1991-1995 Stichting Mathematisch Centrum, Amsterdam ''.lower() Traceback

Re: Move to python 2.2 as default release?

2002-08-14 Thread Donovan Baarda
On Wed, Aug 14, 2002 at 04:28:53PM -0400, Jim Penny wrote: On Wed, Aug 14, 2002 at 02:54:31PM -0500, Chris Lawrence wrote: On Aug 14, Laura Creighton wrote: [...] One final point. We will almost definitely not switch the default python in sid (current unstable), until there is talk that

Re: python2.2 for sarge?

2002-07-25 Thread Donovan Baarda
On Thu, Jul 25, 2002 at 03:28:59PM -0500, Chris Lawrence wrote: On Jul 25, Matthias Klose wrote: My current plan is: - upload python2.3 packages soon (when 2.3alpha1 is released) - remove python1.5 from unstable - adopt python-central for 2.1, 2.2 and 2.3, hopefully with the

Re: Packaging, supporting both 2.1 and 2.2

2002-05-23 Thread Donovan Baarda
On Thu, May 23, 2002 at 04:34:18AM -, Moshe Zadka wrote: On Thu, 23 May 2002, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donovan Baarda) wrote: [...] This situation is identical to the existing idle package. It's worth looking at how it handles it. I'll take a look, thanks. Note the naming convention

Re: Packaging, supporting both 2.1 and 2.2

2002-05-22 Thread Donovan Baarda
On Thu, May 23, 2002 at 10:10:51AM +1000, Donovan Baarda wrote: [...] 1a) as 1), but also provide foo symlink for python (default). as 1), but also make foo (Depends: python (=2.1), python (2.2), foo-python2.1) with symlink /usr/bin/foo to /usr/bin/foo-python2.2 Ack! typo... should be /usr

Re: FYI: debhelper and no more zope-devhelper.

2002-05-19 Thread Donovan Baarda
On Sun, May 19, 2002 at 10:57:43AM +0200, Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis wrote: After a short mail exchange with Joey Hess, I decided not ot package zope-devhelper any more. Instead, we camed out with a better idea: implement a debhelper program that can install sheared debconf templates

Re: [announce] python-central 0.2

2002-05-19 Thread Donovan Baarda
On Sat, Apr 27, 2002 at 04:36:57PM +0200, Bastian Kleineidam wrote: Yeah, finally got around to update this package. Thanks to Donovan Baarda for his improvements! Please test this one if you want to build Python packages or modules. URL: http://people.debian.org/~calvin/python-central

Re: [un]versioned python dependency?

2002-03-19 Thread Donovan Baarda
On Tue, Mar 19, 2002 at 11:44:56AM +0100, Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote: Hi, I've had a small discussion with Julian Gilbey, packager of pktrace. Julian decided to make pktrace depend on python2.1, while pktrace does not depend on a specific python version per se. He asked me to take it up

Re: The Python Registrar

2002-02-25 Thread Donovan Baarda
On Mon, Feb 25, 2002 at 09:07:53PM +0100, Bastian Kleineidam wrote: Hi Donovan, On Sat, Feb 23, 2002 at 10:38:17AM +1100, Donovan Baarda wrote: Did you see my analysis and modified register-python-package script? I posted it under a misleading subject by mistake (responded to another

Re: The Python Registrar

2002-02-24 Thread Donovan Baarda
On Sun, Feb 24, 2002 at 05:38:25PM +0100, Carel Fellinger wrote: On Sun, Feb 24, 2002 at 03:34:46PM +1100, Donovan Baarda wrote: ... OK, I got creative and figured out a way the python-central could work without using an emac's style registry, instead just using the existing dpkg Depends

Re: The Python Registrar

2002-02-24 Thread Donovan Baarda
On Sun, Feb 24, 2002 at 05:54:24PM -0500, Jim Penny wrote: On Sun, Feb 24, 2002 at 10:35:47AM +1100, Donovan Baarda wrote: On Sat, Feb 23, 2002 at 03:31:26PM -0500, Jim Penny wrote: [...] The packages, provided they are built right, will be pretty self explanitory. Installing python-foo

Re: policy 2.3 para 2

2002-02-23 Thread Donovan Baarda
On Sat, Feb 23, 2002 at 10:11:41PM +, Julian Gilbey wrote: On Sat, Feb 23, 2002 at 12:45:07PM +1100, Donovan Baarda wrote: It may be that as python is simpler, we can simply have a script in a python-common package which does something like (pardon me if I get [... sample scripts

Re: The Python Registrar

2002-02-23 Thread Donovan Baarda
On Sat, Feb 23, 2002 at 03:31:26PM -0500, Jim Penny wrote: On Fri, Feb 22, 2002 at 07:03:59PM -0500, Jim Penny wrote: On Sat, Feb 23, 2002 at 10:38:17AM +1100, Donovan Baarda wrote: On Tue, Feb 12, 2002 at 12:05:22AM +0100, Bastian Kleineidam wrote: [...] Did you see my analysis

Re: The Python Registrar

2002-02-23 Thread Donovan Baarda
On Sat, Feb 23, 2002 at 10:38:17AM +1100, Donovan Baarda wrote: On Tue, Feb 12, 2002 at 12:05:22AM +0100, Bastian Kleineidam wrote: Hello. The first version of the python-central package is online at http://people.debian.org/~calvin/python-central/ It provides support for installing

Re: The Python Registrar

2002-02-22 Thread Donovan Baarda
On Tue, Feb 12, 2002 at 12:05:22AM +0100, Bastian Kleineidam wrote: Hello. The first version of the python-central package is online at http://people.debian.org/~calvin/python-central/ It provides support for installing pure Python modules independent of the Python version (see Python

Re: Bug#133306: apt-listchanges: Does not handle .pyc files correctly

2002-02-22 Thread Donovan Baarda
On Fri, Feb 22, 2002 at 10:06:06PM +0100, Christian Kurz wrote: On 22/02/02, Donovan Baarda wrote: First, remember that this tool is explicity for the subset of packages containing pure-python modules that work with multiple versions of Python. Well, but that's a good point for starting

Re: policy 2.3 para 2

2002-02-22 Thread Donovan Baarda
On Tue, Feb 12, 2002 at 10:17:16PM +, Julian Gilbey wrote: On Mon, Feb 11, 2002 at 10:19:56PM +1100, Donovan Baarda wrote: Why not take the emacsen-common method and code and use this for python? It probably won't work for C-extension modules, but it could make life easier

Re: policy 2.3 para 2

2002-02-11 Thread Donovan Baarda
On Mon, Feb 11, 2002 at 11:28:50AM +0100, Bastian Kleineidam wrote: On Sat, Feb 09, 2002 at 07:41:31PM +, Julian Gilbey wrote: I have a suggestion, which may already have been thought of. For Python Policy 2.2.3, see

Re: Where is the Debian Python Policy?

2002-02-10 Thread Donovan Baarda
On Sun, Feb 10, 2002 at 10:26:26AM +0100, Matthias Klose wrote: Donovan Baarda writes: G'day, just thought I'd have another look at the current policy and I couldn't find it. Where is it again? /usr/share/doc/python, anybody actually reading the docs? Ahh, it's included in the python

Re: policy 2.3 para 2

2002-02-09 Thread Donovan Baarda
On Sat, Feb 09, 2002 at 07:41:31PM +, Julian Gilbey wrote: I have a suggestion, which may already have been thought of. Need: a python-module (pure Python) providing package should provide byte-compiled versions for all installed python versions (as long as there are no version

Where is the Debian Python Policy?

2002-02-09 Thread Donovan Baarda
G'day, just thought I'd have another look at the current policy and I couldn't find it. Where is it again? Can we get a link to it put on the Debian devel page? http://www.debian.org/devel/ -- -- ABO: finger [EMAIL

Re: Removal of python1.5?

2001-12-10 Thread Donovan Baarda
Quoting Jim Penny [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Mon, Dec 10, 2001 at 11:44:27PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: On Mon, Dec 10, 2001 at 07:22:36AM +0100, Matthias Klose wrote: Anthony Towns writes: [...] BTW: I have no feeling about dropping python-2.0; it appears that portation from 2.0 to 2.1 is

Re: Removal of python1.5?

2001-12-09 Thread Donovan Baarda
On Mon, Dec 10, 2001 at 11:53:24AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: On Sun, Dec 09, 2001 at 08:00:20PM +0100, Matthias Klose wrote: If I don't hear a serious reason to keep python1.5, I plan to file a bug report for ftp.debian.org to remove the python1.5 package. Eh? python1.5's still useful

Re: Naming standalone module/program

2001-11-01 Thread Donovan Baarda
Quoting Anthony Towns aj@azure.humbug.org.au: On Thu, Nov 01, 2001 at 11:38:57AM +1100, Donovan Baarda wrote: Note that additionaly all packages that depend on plucker _and_ python must use Depends: plucker, python2.1 and _not_ Depends: plucker, python (= 2.1), python (2.2). Uh

Re: Naming standalone module/program

2001-10-31 Thread Donovan Baarda
Quoting Matthias Klose [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Mikael Hedin writes: Hi, I'm just finishing my new plucker package. And then I read the policy again, and it said I should call my program python2.1-plucker, as I use method 2 and the upstream name is plucker. Is plucker an application or a

Re: (2nd try) Final draft of Python Policy (hopefully ;-)

2001-10-28 Thread Donovan Baarda
On Sun, Oct 28, 2001 at 02:57:15PM +0100, Jérôme Marant wrote: Matthias Klose [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 2.1.1 Support Only The Default Version [...] + a new change to the major version of python, will make all packages depending on the default version being uninstalled, right?

Re: Final draft of Python Policy (hopefully ;-)

2001-10-28 Thread Donovan Baarda
G'day, Gregor's already answered most of these, but thought I'd throw in a comment or two. On Sun, Oct 28, 2001 at 12:11:04AM -0500, Chris Lawrence wrote: On Oct 27, Gregor Hoffleit wrote: I've put a version 0.3.6 of the Python Policy Draft on http://people.debian.org/~flight/python/. The

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