On Thu, Nov 05, 2020 at 09:28:56AM +0100, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> On 11/4/20 9:27 PM, Novy, Ondrej wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Antonio Terceiro píše v St 04. 11. 2020 v 14:01 -0300:
> >> Could you ellaborate? Maybe we should have a discussion in the Python
> >> team so that we implement consistent practices. For example, `gunicorn`
> >> and `pip` now point to their python3 versions, but you are saying that
> >> pytest will not do that, what maybe creates more confusion given Debian
> >> bullseye will not support any other Python.
> > 
> > "pytest" in buster now points to python2 version of pytest and
> > "pytest-3" points to python3 version. To prevent confusion after upgrade
> > I want to keep one stable release with pytest cmd "unoccupied" and keep
> > pytest-3.
> > 
> > Bullseye will support Python2 interpreter so user can keep python-pytest
> > package installed from buster.

The python2 interpreter will be supported, but nothing else will, so I
don't see the point of this compatibility.  I don't think that "keep you
old packages from the previous release" is a great upgrade path.

Anyway, my point is that we should collective aim to be consistent
across the Python packages. The fact that some packages have made their
"not *3" binaries be the python3 versions, and others not, due to
arbitrary individual maintainer decisions, is a mess.

> Moreover, simply invoking "pytest-3" is not enough, one should be using:
> 
> for pyvers in $$(py3versions -vr 2>/dev/null) ; do \
>       python$$pyvers -m pytest ; \
> done
> 
> otherwise, only the default version of Python3 is tested, and we really
> want to test with all available versions (so we get results whenever
> we're transitioning to a new Python 3 version).

Sure, but that only applies for package maintainance. People who just
want to use pytest to test their Python code have a (IMO pointless)
divergence from upstream. This made some sense when there were 2
supported Python ecosystems, but that's now in the past. We could take
the opportunity to fix this.

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