Re: [Python-modules-team] pygame and python 3
Hi Lenard, On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 5:47 PM, Lenard Lindstrom le...@telus.net wrote: Hi Vincent, On 15-04-29 03:34 AM, Vincent Cheng wrote: Hi Lenard, First off, thanks for all your work on pygame! On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 9:26 PM, Lenard Lindstrom le...@telus.net wrote: Hi, Pygame supported python3 since before version 1.9.0 in 2009. All Pygame code is written to work with either Python 2.x or 3.x. So building Pygame for python3 is the same as for python2. Just use python3 setup.py build instead of python setup.py build. Installation is also the same. For Pygame 1.9.2, which I test against Python 2.7 and 3.4 on i386 Linux Mint, python3 support is complete. So if a stable Pygame package already exists for python2, adapting it for python3 should be straight forward. Let me know if some Pygame bug causes problems and I will deal with it promptly. Thanks for the effort in keeping Pygame in Linux. Just to confirm, does the latest stable pygame release (1.9.1) actually support python3? Because back when I initially prepared python3 pygame 1.9.1 packages for Debian a few years back, I recall that I was able to build it, but just importing pygame with a python3 interpreter resulted in an error. 1.9.2pre works great though. Is there a rough estimate of when 1.9.2 is expected to be released, by the way, or is it more along the lines of it'll be done when it's done? ;) Regards, Vincent I checked Pygame 1.9.1 with Python 3.4 and see where the problem is. Pygame 1.9.1 was built and tested on an earlier Python 3 release. Basically, the early effort on Python 3 went towards the language upgrade. The C api was slower to follow. So Python 3 is basically a moving target for extension module developers. I suppose Pygame 1.9.1 could be updated for Python 3.4, but is it worth it? For practical purposes, Pygame 1.9.2 is in the beta stage of testing. I see no new features or rewrites happening before the formal release, just bug fixes. Basically the delay in release is one of logistics, getting a new automated build site for Windows and OS X. But for Linux, specifically Linux Mint 17.1 Cinnamon 32-bit (Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS, Trusty Tahr), it passes the unit tests. Other than some document editing, I think it is as ready as it will ever be for a Linux release. As for the date of the formal release, that is up to the project administrator, René Dudfield. Thanks for the explanation! I don't follow upstream development closely, and I was unsure how close to release 1.9.2 actually is. In that case, would you consider 1.9.2 as of the last commit on bitbucket (or any specific commit if you want to suggest one, I suppose) ready for inclusion in a stable release of Debian/Ubuntu? If so, I'd be happy to upload 1.9.2 to unstable rather than just experimental. Regards, Vincent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-python-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/caczd_tafimejqh4+4rwqecjq6ui0o2tvnovrrmx9fvjugik...@mail.gmail.com
Re: [Python-modules-team] pygame and python 3
Hi Vincent, On 15-04-29 03:34 AM, Vincent Cheng wrote: Hi Lenard, First off, thanks for all your work on pygame! On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 9:26 PM, Lenard Lindstrom le...@telus.net wrote: Hi, Pygame supported python3 since before version 1.9.0 in 2009. All Pygame code is written to work with either Python 2.x or 3.x. So building Pygame for python3 is the same as for python2. Just use python3 setup.py build instead of python setup.py build. Installation is also the same. For Pygame 1.9.2, which I test against Python 2.7 and 3.4 on i386 Linux Mint, python3 support is complete. So if a stable Pygame package already exists for python2, adapting it for python3 should be straight forward. Let me know if some Pygame bug causes problems and I will deal with it promptly. Thanks for the effort in keeping Pygame in Linux. Just to confirm, does the latest stable pygame release (1.9.1) actually support python3? Because back when I initially prepared python3 pygame 1.9.1 packages for Debian a few years back, I recall that I was able to build it, but just importing pygame with a python3 interpreter resulted in an error. 1.9.2pre works great though. Is there a rough estimate of when 1.9.2 is expected to be released, by the way, or is it more along the lines of it'll be done when it's done? ;) Regards, Vincent I checked Pygame 1.9.1 with Python 3.4 and see where the problem is. Pygame 1.9.1 was built and tested on an earlier Python 3 release. Basically, the early effort on Python 3 went towards the language upgrade. The C api was slower to follow. So Python 3 is basically a moving target for extension module developers. I suppose Pygame 1.9.1 could be updated for Python 3.4, but is it worth it? For practical purposes, Pygame 1.9.2 is in the beta stage of testing. I see no new features or rewrites happening before the formal release, just bug fixes. Basically the delay in release is one of logistics, getting a new automated build site for Windows and OS X. But for Linux, specifically Linux Mint 17.1 Cinnamon 32-bit (Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS, Trusty Tahr), it passes the unit tests. Other than some document editing, I think it is as ready as it will ever be for a Linux release. As for the date of the formal release, that is up to the project administrator, René Dudfield. Wish I could be more specific, Lenard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-python-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/55481307.2080...@telus.net
Re: [Python-modules-team] pygame and python 3
Hi, pygame maintainer here, sorry for the delayed reply! On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:47 PM, peter green plugw...@p10link.net wrote: One python package used heavilly in the raspberry pi community is pygame. Unfortunately the package hasn't had an upstream stable release since 2009 and the upstream stable release doesn't support python3. Currently sid has the latest upstream stable release and no python3-pygame package. Experimental does have a python3-pygame package but I have not tested it (i'm not really a python guy myself). Thoughts? has anyone tried the pythong3-pygame package in experimental? should it be pushed to unstable (after jessie release)? are there better alternatives to pygame? Yes, I've tested the python3-pygame package (briefly) prior to uploading it to experimental, and it is indeed functional. The reason it's in experimental and not unstable is because I'd rather not upload a snapshot of upstream svn/hg to sid (I have no idea when upstream is planning to release 1.9.2). When 1.9.2 is released, I'll push the current packaging in experimental to sid. There's also an upstream bug report about python3 support in the Debian package [1], although there's really nothing new there. Regards, Vincent [1] https://bitbucket.org/pygame/pygame/issue/221/debian-python-3-package-for-192 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-python-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/caczd_tcqwof3cggxvaakk25r1fc1c_bvbjyeoqzcuf7xvw0...@mail.gmail.com
Re: [Python-modules-team] pygame and python 3
Hi Lenard, First off, thanks for all your work on pygame! On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 9:26 PM, Lenard Lindstrom le...@telus.net wrote: Hi, Pygame supported python3 since before version 1.9.0 in 2009. All Pygame code is written to work with either Python 2.x or 3.x. So building Pygame for python3 is the same as for python2. Just use python3 setup.py build instead of python setup.py build. Installation is also the same. For Pygame 1.9.2, which I test against Python 2.7 and 3.4 on i386 Linux Mint, python3 support is complete. So if a stable Pygame package already exists for python2, adapting it for python3 should be straight forward. Let me know if some Pygame bug causes problems and I will deal with it promptly. Thanks for the effort in keeping Pygame in Linux. Just to confirm, does the latest stable pygame release (1.9.1) actually support python3? Because back when I initially prepared python3 pygame 1.9.1 packages for Debian a few years back, I recall that I was able to build it, but just importing pygame with a python3 interpreter resulted in an error. 1.9.2pre works great though. Is there a rough estimate of when 1.9.2 is expected to be released, by the way, or is it more along the lines of it'll be done when it's done? ;) Regards, Vincent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-python-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/caczd_taf_zdtzoqehy9tznwmnczciws2dnxxwzaokqteas3...@mail.gmail.com
