Re: Remove trac from Debian 11?

[Andrius Merkys]

On 2021-05-10 16:06, Martin wrote:
> On 2021-05-10 14:00, Andrius Merkys wrote:
>> I do not think that slowing down of development is reason serious enough
>> to remove a package which is otherwise fine. Or are there other reasons
>> that I am not aware of?
> 
> I don't have a problem with slow development, but the current
> version is probably not good enough to maintain it for some
> years. I'm optimistic, that in some months or so 1.6.x will
> be released, which should be fine. I'm planning to backport it
> to Debian 11, so that users still can install trac easily.

Thanks for explanation. Makes sense, I agree with your decision.

Best,
Andrius

Re: Remove trac from Debian 11?

[Martin]

On 2021-05-10 14:00, Andrius Merkys wrote:
> I do not think that slowing down of development is reason serious enough
> to remove a package which is otherwise fine. Or are there other reasons
> that I am not aware of?

I don't have a problem with slow development, but the current
version is probably not good enough to maintain it for some
years. I'm optimistic, that in some months or so 1.6.x will
be released, which should be fine. I'm planning to backport it
to Debian 11, so that users still can install trac easily.

Re: Remove trac from Debian 11?

[Barin Montpris]

On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 10:35:41AM +, Martin wrote:
> Now, while Trac is still maintained upstream and has been ported
> to Python 3 recently, development slowed down since long and the
> current 1.5.x release series is not yet "there".
>
> I wonder, whether the package should be part of Debian 11, or
> better miss one stable release and have it in better shape for
> Debian 12.

I don't object.  Typically I am against releasing knowingly not
ready-to-ship software.  If one of the maintainers comes up with a
reasonable argument against this view, then we should listen to it.

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Best regards,

Barin


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Re: Remove trac from Debian 11?

[Andrius Merkys]

Hi Martin,

On 2021-05-10 13:35, Martin wrote:
> trac is a long-time Debian package, uploaded first by Jesus
> Climent in 2004. I like the traditional look of Trac and its
> climate-friendly resource usage :-)
> 
> Now, while Trac is still maintained upstream and has been ported
> to Python 3 recently, development slowed down since long and the
> current 1.5.x release series is not yet "there".
> 
> I wonder, whether the package should be part of Debian 11, or
> better miss one stable release and have it in better shape for
> Debian 12.
> 
> If nobody objects, I'll file a bug to keep it out of Debian 11.

I do not think that slowing down of development is reason serious enough
to remove a package which is otherwise fine. Or are there other reasons
that I am not aware of?

Best,
Andrius

Remove trac from Debian 11?

[Martin]

Dears,

trac is a long-time Debian package, uploaded first by Jesus
Climent in 2004. I like the traditional look of Trac and its
climate-friendly resource usage :-)

Now, while Trac is still maintained upstream and has been ported
to Python 3 recently, development slowed down since long and the
current 1.5.x release series is not yet "there".

I wonder, whether the package should be part of Debian 11, or
better miss one stable release and have it in better shape for
Debian 12.

If nobody objects, I'll file a bug to keep it out of Debian 11.

Comments welcome!

Cheers