Debian Python developers, make your packaging concerns known (was: Current distutils-sig discussion on package management)

2008-03-19 Thread Ben Finney
Ben Finney [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 The Python distutils-sig group is currently discussing the topic of
 package management, how setuptools interacts with package managers,
 and what changes are desirable as a result.
 
 URL:http://mid.gmane.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [...]
 
 I urge anyone who's had problems getting Python setuptools and
 Debian package management working together, to join this discussion
 so that your issues can be considered in whatever changes ensue.

To reiterate: This discussion is happening *now*. If ever you have
looked at Python packaging (e.g. distutils or setuptools) and said
no, *no*, NO!, then this is the time to get involved so that changes
can be made for the better.

I have no knowledge of *what* the problems are; I only know that there
are people in this group who persistently complain about how Python's
current packaging practices are broken with respect to Debian
packaging.

URL:http://mid.gmane.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Guido van Rossum [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 14:23:26 -0700

I'm back at Google and *really* busy for another week or so, so
I'll have to postpone the rest of this discussion for a while. If
other people want to chime in please do so; if this is just a
dialog between Phillip and me I might incorrectly assume that
nobody besides Phillip really cares.

Please, if you have suggestions for what Python packaging could do
better, and improve Debian packaging of Python packages, *now* is the
time to join that discussion over at the distutils-sig.

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Ben Finney


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Re: Debian Python developers, make your packaging concerns known (was: Current distutils-sig discussion on package management)

2008-03-19 Thread Ondrej Certik
On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 11:08 PM, Ben Finney
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ben Finney [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

   The Python distutils-sig group is currently discussing the topic of
   package management, how setuptools interacts with package managers,
   and what changes are desirable as a result.
  
   URL:http://mid.gmane.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [...]
  
   I urge anyone who's had problems getting Python setuptools and
   Debian package management working together, to join this discussion
   so that your issues can be considered in whatever changes ensue.

  To reiterate: This discussion is happening *now*. If ever you have
  looked at Python packaging (e.g. distutils or setuptools) and said
  no, *no*, NO!, then this is the time to get involved so that changes
  can be made for the better.

  I have no knowledge of *what* the problems are; I only know that there
  are people in this group who persistently complain about how Python's
  current packaging practices are broken with respect to Debian
  packaging.

 URL:http://mid.gmane.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 From: Guido van Rossum [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 14:23:26 -0700

 I'm back at Google and *really* busy for another week or so, so
 I'll have to postpone the rest of this discussion for a while. If
 other people want to chime in please do so; if this is just a
 dialog between Phillip and me I might incorrectly assume that
 nobody besides Phillip really cares.

  Please, if you have suggestions for what Python packaging could do
  better, and improve Debian packaging of Python packages, *now* is the
  time to join that discussion over at the distutils-sig.

Thanks for letting us know. I also don't know what the particular problems are,
my only experience was with the initial packaging of
python-enthought-traits + mayavi2
where I was unable to force setuptools not to download
stuff from the net, so I simply asked upstream to provide me a simple script
to do the whole compilation+installation of all python files+modules. Then the
packaging was dead easy.

And Varun and Kmap then fixed it with the help of upstream, so now
even the build
script is not necessary anymore.

Ondrej


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