Re: PyCon 2013 -- anyone going? ideas for the talks?
On 21 September 2012 19:32, Paul Boddie p...@boddie.org.uk wrote: From following discussions on python-dev, I imagine that it might be interesting for people to be shown how following the basic best practices around metadata and configuration information can get you most of the way to making a half-decent package. It might also be informative if Natalia Frydrych's PyPI to Debian work were covered somehow, because that would potentially make people aware of packaging portability and that with only a little extra consideration, they could have their work conveniently available to an entire community. Thanks all, good points. Fred: in that case you should have a look to the pythonxy project Yes, that's one of several distributions we're discussing - others include EPD, Anaconda, WinPython and QSnake. Best wishes, Thomas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-python-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caovn4qgdjz3csn3bchnyy8d57cyyblzwkpbjlaqs0gpcgov...@mail.gmail.com
PyCon 2013 -- anyone going? ideas for the talks?
Hi everyone, Since the deadline for the submission of talks/tutorials for the PyCon 2013 is approaching (28th of Sep) I thought to check if anyone from the 'team' will be attending (Barry?) and may be someone already is planing to give a talk or might be even a tutorial? Debian-based systems become de-facto the community Linux in the Python world due to the simplicity of maintenance and deployment of Python software. But I think we still are far behind at promoting ourselves, so I thought it would be nice if Debian appears at PyCon (some corporate Linux-related entities are already among sponsors where Debian is unlikely to be listed). I am not sure yet if I would get any funds to attend but I am thinking about submitting two proposals for 1. talk on The universal Python distribution or build your own stack in many fields of endeavor people talk about stacks and python distributions which make easy to build/deploy suck stacks. So I thought that we should not be shy and present Debian as the best platform for anyone -- either ran on bare metal (preferable) or in a VM (for new adopters). But then we might have released wheezy which would be a good base for the talk -- present what fresh release has brought to the community in this stable environment. Previously I have done a similar talk with an accent on a scientific Python stack in Debian [1] which I thought was quite well accepted. 2. tutorial on Debian packaging of Python modules/software since tutorials are separate from the main registration (i.e. require separate payment if I got it right) I am not quite sure how many people would be interested to attend it. But I guess it should not hurt to submit one and for the committee to decide. Also it might be worth asking for a table/booth space (I think I saw that somewhere on pycon website) for the Debian project. I would be glad to get any feedback (i.e. not worth the money/time spent, you might like better to ..., ...) and recommendations on how to get funds for the trip (I will apply for the financial aid but more ideas e.g. kickstarter project?, I think my company might be interested to cover..., etc) ;) Cheers, -- Yaroslav O. Halchenko Postdoctoral Fellow, Department of Psychological and Brain Sciences Dartmouth College, 419 Moore Hall, Hinman Box 6207, Hanover, NH 03755 Phone: +1 (603) 646-9834 Fax: +1 (603) 646-1419 WWW: http://www.linkedin.com/in/yarik -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-python-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120921131832.gs5...@onerussian.com
Re: PyCon 2013 -- anyone going? ideas for the talks?
On Sep 21, 2012, at 09:18 AM, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: Since the deadline for the submission of talks/tutorials for the PyCon 2013 is approaching (28th of Sep) I thought to check if anyone from the 'team' will be attending (Barry?) and may be someone already is planing to give a talk or might be even a tutorial? I'm certainly planning on attending. 2. tutorial on Debian packaging of Python modules/software I submitted something like this as one of three talk submissions last year, though it was rejected (no reason given). That shouldn't deter you though, because my submission probably sucked anyway and yours will be better! I would like to submit a talk this year, if I get off my butt and put one together. It would probably be Python 3 focused, and I'd definitely include details on how to package Python 3 stuff up for Debuntu. (Say Piotr, how's that Python multibuild work going? :). since tutorials are separate from the main registration (i.e. require separate payment if I got it right) I am not quite sure how many people would be interested to attend it. But I guess it should not hurt to submit one and for the committee to decide. Agreed. Also it might be worth asking for a table/booth space (I think I saw that somewhere on pycon website) for the Debian project. That would be kind of cool. I don't remember if any of the other distros had booths, but lots of FLOSS projects did, and it was a nice way to meet others you only know online, and introduce new people to the project. Sometimes we think all the world knows about Debian and Python, but that's mostly because we usually live in such an insular community. Pycon 2012 was *huge* and I expect 2013 to only be bigger. There are *lots* of users out there that come from vastly different backgrounds and aren't as familiar with the Debian ecosystem or using it to develop Python applications. Many folks aren't that familiar with FLOSS, or may even be Python novices. I would be glad to get any feedback (i.e. not worth the money/time spent, you might like better to ..., ...) and recommendations on how to get funds for the trip (I will apply for the financial aid but more ideas e.g. kickstarter project?, I think my company might be interested to cover..., etc) ;) I don't have too many other suggestions other than going the financial aid route. Kickstarter is an interesting idea. I highly encourage everyone to submit a talk, poster, or tutorial. In and of itself, it can be fun to put one together, thinking about whatever cool thing you've done recently, or *want* to do. And if you get accepted, it is *extremely* rewarding (if a little nerve-wracking - I was frantically finishing up my 2012 talk right up to the last minute :). Other than that, I highly suggest attending the sprints since that's almost as much fun as the main event, and when else do you get to sit in rooms with a few hundred other fantastic and cool Pythonistas, hacking away at your favorite pet projects? Cheers, -Barry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-python-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120921104730.03a86...@limelight.wooz.org
Re: PyCon 2013 -- anyone going? ideas for the talks?
On Fri, 21 Sep 2012, Barry Warsaw wrote: 2. tutorial on Debian packaging of Python modules/software I submitted something like this as one of three talk submissions last year, though it was rejected (no reason given). That shouldn't deter you though, because my submission probably sucked anyway and yours will be better! ;-) would you mind sharing yours? It might be of help to structure mine and to spot points desiring improvement ;) -- Yaroslav O. Halchenko Postdoctoral Fellow, Department of Psychological and Brain Sciences Dartmouth College, 419 Moore Hall, Hinman Box 6207, Hanover, NH 03755 Phone: +1 (603) 646-9834 Fax: +1 (603) 646-1419 WWW: http://www.linkedin.com/in/yarik -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-python-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120921165858.gy5...@onerussian.com
Re: PyCon 2013 -- anyone going? ideas for the talks?
With apologies in advance for straying off topic ;-) On 21 September 2012 14:18, Yaroslav Halchenko deb...@onerussian.com wrote: Previously I have done a similar talk with an accent on a scientific Python stack in Debian [1] which I thought was quite well accepted. We're having a big discussion on scipy-user at the moment about formalising a scientific Python stack under the name Pylab. I hope once it's defined, we'll be able to make a Debian metapackage that depends on all the relevant components. If you want to get involved in defining it, please do join the discussion on scipy-user. 2. tutorial on Debian packaging of Python modules/software That reminds me: I'm doing a talk (~ 1/2 hour) at my local Python user group on this topic, so I'd be interested to see any tutorials anyone has already prepared. I'm not sure I'm really qualified to expound on it, but I hope that I can give people some kind of mental map of what's involved. Thanks, Thomas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-python-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caovn4qigcsn3wpw7qrgbnhsyczkftue9o2-ggwvak57syda...@mail.gmail.com
Re: PyCon 2013 -- anyone going? ideas for the talks?
On Fri, 21 Sep 2012, Thomas Kluyver wrote: Previously I have done a similar talk with an accent on a scientific Python stack in Debian [1] which I thought was quite well accepted. We're having a big discussion on scipy-user at the moment about formalising a scientific Python stack under the name Pylab. thanks -- I will check it out. I am subscribed only to scipy-dev so haven't spotted it (but there was an echo of it on numfocus ML) But now I have mentioned that I have forgotten to actually post [1]: [1] Halchenko, Y. O. (2011). π’s in Debian or Scientific Debian: NumPy, SciPy and beyond. Talk given at EuroScipy 2011, Paris, France. http://neuro.debian.net/_files/Halchenko_EuroScipy11_3_14s_in_Debian.pdf 2. tutorial on Debian packaging of Python modules/software That reminds me: I'm doing a talk (~ 1/2 hour) at my local Python user group on this topic, so I'd be interested to see any tutorials anyone has already prepared. I'm not sure I'm really qualified to expound on it, but I hope that I can give people some kind of mental map of what's involved. eh -- I cannot recommend any specific tutorial, especially tailored toward Python (yet). Lucas' packaging-tutorial is quite nice but IMHO for 1/2 hour introduction into packaging tutorial should be more concise and more specific toward common situations with Python modules/extensions/apps packaging. But I would advise to repeat a few times that the first pre-requisite toward easy packaging is for the project to follow the standard procedures, i.e. using distutils (setuptools) and having a working setup.py, having clear specification of copyright/license terms and dependencies. Additional benefit -- having a good collection of unittests to be enabled at build time. With those ideas in the pocket, in 90% of the cases the basic packaging would be quite easy thanks to dh+dh_python[23] bundle. -- Yaroslav O. Halchenko Postdoctoral Fellow, Department of Psychological and Brain Sciences Dartmouth College, 419 Moore Hall, Hinman Box 6207, Hanover, NH 03755 Phone: +1 (603) 646-9834 Fax: +1 (603) 646-1419 WWW: http://www.linkedin.com/in/yarik -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-python-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120921181322.ge5...@onerussian.com
RE : PyCon 2013 -- anyone going? ideas for the talks?
hello, in that case you should have a look to the pythonxy project http://code.google.com/p/pythonxy/ this pylab distribution is quite similar cheers Fred De : Thomas Kluyver [tho...@kluyver.me.uk] Date d'envoi : vendredi 21 septembre 2012 19:24 À : python-* ML Objet : Re: PyCon 2013 -- anyone going? ideas for the talks? With apologies in advance for straying off topic ;-) On 21 September 2012 14:18, Yaroslav Halchenko deb...@onerussian.com wrote: Previously I have done a similar talk with an accent on a scientific Python stack in Debian [1] which I thought was quite well accepted. We're having a big discussion on scipy-user at the moment about formalising a scientific Python stack under the name Pylab. I hope once it's defined, we'll be able to make a Debian metapackage that depends on all the relevant components. If you want to get involved in defining it, please do join the discussion on scipy-user. 2. tutorial on Debian packaging of Python modules/software That reminds me: I'm doing a talk (~ 1/2 hour) at my local Python user group on this topic, so I'd be interested to see any tutorials anyone has already prepared. I'm not sure I'm really qualified to expound on it, but I hope that I can give people some kind of mental map of what's involved. Thanks, Thomas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-python-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caovn4qigcsn3wpw7qrgbnhsyczkftue9o2-ggwvak57syda...@mail.gmail.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-python-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/a2a20ec3b8560d408356cac2fc148e5358df5...@sun-dag1.synchrotron-soleil.fr
Re: PyCon 2013 -- anyone going? ideas for the talks?
On Friday 21 September 2012 20:13:22 Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: eh -- I cannot recommend any specific tutorial, especially tailored toward Python (yet). Lucas' packaging-tutorial is quite nice but IMHO for 1/2 hour introduction into packaging tutorial should be more concise and more specific toward common situations with Python modules/extensions/apps packaging. But I would advise to repeat a few times that the first pre-requisite toward easy packaging is for the project to follow the standard procedures, i.e. using distutils (setuptools) and having a working setup.py, having clear specification of copyright/license terms and dependencies. Additional benefit -- having a good collection of unittests to be enabled at build time. With those ideas in the pocket, in 90% of the cases the basic packaging would be quite easy thanks to dh+dh_python[23] bundle. From following discussions on python-dev, I imagine that it might be interesting for people to be shown how following the basic best practices around metadata and configuration information can get you most of the way to making a half-decent package. It might also be informative if Natalia Frydrych's PyPI to Debian work were covered somehow, because that would potentially make people aware of packaging portability and that with only a little extra consideration, they could have their work conveniently available to an entire community. Paul -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-python-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201209212032.06968.p...@boddie.org.uk
