Re: PyGTK and Python 2.6

2009-12-18 Thread Dmitrijs Ledkovs
2009/12/17 Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org:
 Le mercredi 16 décembre 2009 à 19:22 -0500, Scott Kitterman a écrit :
 Am I missing something? Can I get import gtk to work under Python
 2.6 on Debian? Should I try to port Epidermis back to Python 2.5 or
 should I wait for Python 2.6 to be fully supported in Debian
 experimental or unstable?

 You would have to rebuild pygtk locally using the experimental packages.  I 
 expect we'll see
 Python 2.6 in unstable some time next week.

 I'm not looking for a definitive answer, (unless there is one!), just
 advice. Thank you.
 
 My advice would be wait.

 OTOH porting from python2.6 to python2.5 should be really easy, there
 have been very few language additions to python2.6. This would allow
 your software to also work on Debian stable, as well as some other major
 releases of other distributions.


Unless import from future was used extensively

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Re: PyGTK and Python 2.6

2009-12-17 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mercredi 16 décembre 2009 à 19:22 -0500, Scott Kitterman a écrit : 
 Am I missing something? Can I get import gtk to work under Python
 2.6 on Debian? Should I try to port Epidermis back to Python 2.5 or
 should I wait for Python 2.6 to be fully supported in Debian
 experimental or unstable?
 
 You would have to rebuild pygtk locally using the experimental packages.  I 
 expect we'll see 
 Python 2.6 in unstable some time next week.
 
 I'm not looking for a definitive answer, (unless there is one!), just
 advice. Thank you.
 
 My advice would be wait.

OTOH porting from python2.6 to python2.5 should be really easy, there
have been very few language additions to python2.6. This would allow
your software to also work on Debian stable, as well as some other major
releases of other distributions.

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PyGTK and Python 2.6

2009-12-16 Thread David D Lowe
Hello all.

I'm the author of Epidermis, a theme manager for GNOME. More details
at: http://epidermis.tuxfamily.org

Until now, I've only ever tested and released Epidermis for Ubuntu,
however, I'm interested making Epidermis support as many Linux
distributions as possible, and I thought Debian would be a good start.

Epidermis is programmed in Python 2.6. I was surprised to find that
Python 2.6 is not included in Debian unstable, but only in the
experimental repositories. Unfortunately, Epidermis still doesn't work
on Debian. It seems python-gtk2 and other essential packages for
Epidermis have not been upgraded to Python 2.6 in any of Debian's
repositories.

Am I missing something? Can I get import gtk to work under Python
2.6 on Debian? Should I try to port Epidermis back to Python 2.5 or
should I wait for Python 2.6 to be fully supported in Debian
experimental or unstable?

I'm not looking for a definitive answer, (unless there is one!), just
advice. Thank you.

David D Lowe


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Re: PyGTK and Python 2.6

2009-12-16 Thread Kumar Appaiah
Dear David,

(Others: please verify that all I've said below is correct).

On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 10:56:22PM +, David D Lowe wrote:
 Epidermis is programmed in Python 2.6. I was surprised to find that
 Python 2.6 is not included in Debian unstable, but only in the
 experimental repositories. Unfortunately, Epidermis still doesn't work
 on Debian. It seems python-gtk2 and other essential packages for
 Epidermis have not been upgraded to Python 2.6 in any of Debian's
 repositories.
 
 Am I missing something? Can I get import gtk to work under Python
 2.6 on Debian? Should I try to port Epidermis back to Python 2.5 or
 should I wait for Python 2.6 to be fully supported in Debian
 experimental or unstable?
 
 I'm not looking for a definitive answer, (unless there is one!), just
 advice. Thank you.

Your analysis is totally correct. Should you want to use python-gtk2
based programs with Python 2.6, you would have to successively build
all of it's reverse dependencies with Python 2.6, and then build
python-gtk2 and use these custom built packages for your program. To
make it more clear,

$ apt-cache depends python-gtk2
[snipped output]
  Depends: python-cairo
  Depends: python-gobject
  Depends: python-numpy

So, you would at least need to rebuild the above packages with Python
2.6, and then use these custom built package to allow Epidermis to
work.

If porting Epidermis to Python 2.5 would be an easier task, it would
obviate the need to rebuild the above packages.

Please do ask if you have further questions; I'll do my best to help.

Kumar
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Re: PyGTK and Python 2.6

2009-12-16 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 22:56:22 + David D Lowe 
daviddlowe.fl...@googlemail.com wrote:
Hello all.

I'm the author of Epidermis, a theme manager for GNOME. More details
at: http://epidermis.tuxfamily.org

Until now, I've only ever tested and released Epidermis for Ubuntu,
however, I'm interested making Epidermis support as many Linux
distributions as possible, and I thought Debian would be a good start.

Epidermis is programmed in Python 2.6. I was surprised to find that
Python 2.6 is not included in Debian unstable, but only in the
experimental repositories. Unfortunately, Epidermis still doesn't work
on Debian. It seems python-gtk2 and other essential packages for
Epidermis have not been upgraded to Python 2.6 in any of Debian's
repositories.

Am I missing something? Can I get import gtk to work under Python
2.6 on Debian? Should I try to port Epidermis back to Python 2.5 or
should I wait for Python 2.6 to be fully supported in Debian
experimental or unstable?

You would have to rebuild pygtk locally using the experimental packages.  I 
expect we'll see 
Python 2.6 in unstable some time next week.

I'm not looking for a definitive answer, (unless there is one!), just
advice. Thank you.

My advice would be wait.

Scott K


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