Re: VCS for Python code Was: Trac team almost dead?

2009-09-01 Thread Dmitrijs Ledkovs
Recently I have discovered some very nice features of hg that make it attractive: 1) Multiple branches such that debian/ can be kept on alioth and have working copy that has everything if maintainer prefers so 2) MercurialQueues plugin allows to keep versioned quilt patches, rebase, merge and

Re: VCS for Python code Was: Trac team almost dead?

2009-09-01 Thread anatoly techtonik
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 4:16 PM, Dmitrijs Ledkovsdmitrij.led...@gmail.com wrote: Recently I have discovered some very nice features of hg that make it attractive: Mercurial Queues are awesome, but there is one major drawback in Mercurial comparing to SVN - it is impossible to clone a subtree of

Re: VCS for Python code Was: Trac team almost dead?

2009-09-01 Thread Chow Loong Jin
On Tuesday 01,September,2009 09:16 PM, Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote: Recently I have discovered some very nice features of hg that make it attractive: 1) Multiple branches such that debian/ can be kept on alioth and have working copy that has everything if maintainer prefers so 2) MercurialQueues

Re: VCS for Python code Was: Trac team almost dead?

2009-09-01 Thread Guy Hulbert
On Tue, 2009-01-09 at 19:10 +0300, anatoly techtonik wrote: On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 4:16 PM, Dmitrijs Ledkovsdmitrij.led...@gmail.com wrote: Recently I have discovered some very nice features of hg that make it attractive: Mercurial Queues are awesome, but there is one major drawback in

Re: VCS for Python code Was: Trac team almost dead?

2009-09-01 Thread Nicolas Chauvat
Hi, On Wed, Sep 02, 2009 at 12:15:44AM +0800, Chow Loong Jin wrote: Git has #1, by the way, if I'm understanding you correctly. Which means both ... In my case, the more I read about Mercurial, the more I dislike it, but that's a different matter. I'm not sure anyone cares, but at Logilab

Re: VCS for Python code Was: Trac team almost dead?

2009-08-29 Thread Michal Čihař
Hi Dne Sat, 29 Aug 2009 03:58:13 +0300 anatoly techtonik techto...@gmail.com napsal(a): If we are all Python developers to some degree and know about PEP 374 - what do you think about switching from SVN to HG for maintaining Debian packages? There is also convert extension that may allow to

Re: VCS for Python code Was: Trac team almost dead?

2009-08-29 Thread Chow Loong Jin
I'm all for Git. -- Kind regards, Chow Loong Jin (GPG: 0x8F02A411) Ubuntu Contributing Developer signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: VCS for Python code Was: Trac team almost dead?

2009-08-29 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
anatoly techtonik wrote: If we are all Python developers to some degree and know about PEP 374 - what do you think about switching from SVN to HG for maintaining Debian packages? There is also convert extension that may allow to convert history from other sources to HG and PEP 385 that may

Re: VCS for Python code Was: Trac team almost dead?

2009-08-29 Thread Vincent Bernat
OoO En cette nuit striée d'éclairs du samedi 29 août 2009, vers 02:58, anatoly techtonik techto...@gmail.com disait : If we are all Python developers to some degree and know about PEP 374 Decision presented in PEP 374 does not really apply to us: - Windows support is unimportant - Python

Trac team almost dead?

2009-08-28 Thread W. Martin Borgert
On 2009-08-26 10:59, Alexander GQ Gerasiov wrote: project on alioth looks nearly dead. We're using trac actively in our lab, so I'll think about entering team to help them a little bit. I wonder, how people feel about moving Trac from its own team to a larger, more active team, i.e. Debian

Re: Trac team almost dead?

2009-08-28 Thread Piotr Ożarowski
[Jan Dittberner, 2009-08-28] On 2009-08-26 10:59, Alexander GQ Gerasiov wrote: I wonder, how people feel about moving Trac from its own team to a larger, more active team, i.e. Debian Python Modules Team, [...] I would really like to have trac in DPMT or maybe PAPT (is trac module used

Re: Trac team almost dead?

2009-08-28 Thread Jan Dittberner
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 10:48:48AM +0200, W. Martin Borgert wrote: On 2009-08-26 10:59, Alexander GQ Gerasiov wrote: project on alioth looks nearly dead. We're using trac actively in our lab, so I'll think about entering team to help them a little bit. I wonder, how people feel about

Re: Trac team almost dead?

2009-08-28 Thread Piotr Ożarowski
[W. Martin Borgert, 2009-08-28] On 2009-08-28 11:29, Piotr Ożarowski wrote: or maybe PAPT (is trac module used outside trac itsefl? If not, it should be moved to private directory, IMHO) I think, it's in the similar category as Django etc. i.e. it is a base technology on that you install

Re: [Pkg-trac-devel] Trac team almost dead?

2009-08-28 Thread W. Martin Borgert
On 2009-08-28 12:08, Piotr Ożarowski wrote: question is: are these plugins installed in trac's directory or do they import trac? AFAIK, this depends on the package. Typical plugins are installed into Trac directories, but they have also to import trac to use the APIs. I'm currently not near my

Re: Trac team almost dead?

2009-08-28 Thread Alexander GQ Gerasiov
Fri, 28 Aug 2009 11:01:37 +0200 Jan Dittberner ja...@debian.org wrote: On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 10:48:48AM +0200, W. Martin Borgert wrote: On 2009-08-26 10:59, Alexander GQ Gerasiov wrote: project on alioth looks nearly dead. We're using trac actively in our lab, so I'll think about

Re: [Pkg-trac-devel] Trac team almost dead?

2009-08-28 Thread Mikhail Gusarov
Twas brillig at 12:21:21 28.08.2009 UTC+02 when deba...@debian.org did gyre and gimble: WMB Typical plugins are installed into Trac directories, ? There are two modes of installation: putting the .egg to the concrete Trac instance and installing it site-wide in the PYTHONPATH. You're

Re: Trac team almost dead?

2009-08-28 Thread W. Martin Borgert
On 2009-08-28 17:25, Mikhail Gusarov wrote: There are two modes of installation: putting the .egg to the concrete Trac instance and installing it site-wide in the PYTHONPATH. You're probably referring to former. Distribution-friendly way is latter. Than I was wrong. I thought that plugins

Re: Trac team almost dead?

2009-08-28 Thread Christoph Egger
W. Martin Borgert schrieb: On 2009-08-26 10:59, Alexander GQ Gerasiov wrote: project on alioth looks nearly dead. We're using trac actively in our lab, so I'll think about entering team to help them a little bit. I wonder, how people feel about moving Trac from its own team to a larger,

Re: Trac team almost dead?

2009-08-28 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
Christoph Egger wrote: I have some of the trac-plugins ITA/ITPed and would probably consider following trac itself into one of the python Teams. However I wonder how the $VCS will be handled, throwing away trac's git history doesn't sound like a good idea to me. As my packages

Re: Trac team almost dead?

2009-08-28 Thread W. Martin Borgert
Quoting Christoph Egger deb...@christoph-egger.org: I have some of the trac-plugins ITA/ITPed and would probably consider following trac itself into one of the python Teams. However I wonder how the $VCS will be handled, throwing away trac's git history doesn't sound like a good idea to

Re: Trac team almost dead?

2009-08-28 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Bernd Zeimetz be...@bzed.de (28/08/2009): long time, actually there is even a plan (at least in my head) to make it possible to have modules in git or svn while still being able to checkout all of them in a useful way, but that means writing new code, and I didn't have the time to do so yet.

Re: Trac team almost dead?

2009-08-28 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
Cyril Brulebois wrote: Bernd Zeimetz be...@bzed.de (28/08/2009): long time, actually there is even a plan (at least in my head) to make it possible to have modules in git or svn while still being able to checkout all of them in a useful way, but that means writing new code, and I didn't have

Re: [Pkg-trac-devel] Trac team almost dead?

2009-08-28 Thread W. Martin Borgert
On 2009-08-28 12:21, Piotr Ożarowski wrote: DPMT is fine then (most important ;-) problem solved) Maybe not yet: To me it would make sense to maintain Trac and some Trac plugins in the same team and in the same VCS. DPMT would be OK for Trac, but probably not for all the plugins, that are

Re: Trac team almost dead?

2009-08-28 Thread anatoly techtonik
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 11:48 AM, W. Martin Borgertdeba...@debian.org wrote: I wonder, how people feel about moving Trac from its own team to a larger, more active team, i.e. Debian Python Modules Team, which already has some of tracs dependencies, i.e. libapache2-mod-python, mod-wsgi,