Re: Merging the PAPT and the DMPT
Ondrej Novy writes: > Hi, > > po 21. 9. 2020 v 13:04 odesílatel Ondrej Novy napsal: > >> Todo: >> >>- send debian-devel-announce (i will) >>- mass-commit vcs+maintainer change >> >> > done. > > Thanks to all who helped me with these. > Yes, thank you! And I'm sure maintainers with lots of packages are even more appreciative than myself :-) Best, Nicholas signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Merging the PAPT and the DMPT
Hi, po 21. 9. 2020 v 13:04 odesílatel Ondrej Novy napsal: > Todo: > >- send debian-devel-announce (i will) >- mass-commit vcs+maintainer change > > done. Thanks to all who helped me with these. -- Best regards Ondřej Nový
Re: Merging the PAPT and the DMPT
On 2020-09-21 10:45, Ondrej Novy wrote: > út 15. 9. 2020 v 0:12 odesílatel Christian Kastner Has getting rid of the subgroups entirely been considered, IOW: moving > the packages directory to python-team/? > > reason is ACL. We need different access for "tools" and for "packages". That makes sense, thank you for the clarification! Second draft of the announcement looks good to me.
Re: Merging the PAPT and the DMPT
On Mon, 21 Sep 2020 at 12:21, Ondrej Novy wrote: > > Example of mass-commit: > https://salsa.debian.org/python-team/packages/alembic/-/commit/0519af5c5f82cced88431b6c0ec364f2979e0c42 > https://salsa.debian.org/python-team/packages/alembic/-/commit/51dbd7b278551fbd33abac72c7a240e6baea6a16 > > Suggestion for better wording of changelog is welcome. Here goes nothing! d/control: Update Vcs-* fields with new Debian Python Team salsa layout d/control: Update Maintainer field with new Debian Python Team contact address For a mass commit it seems sensible to make the messages consistent, but these may still be too verbose. Cheers, Nick
Re: Merging the PAPT and the DMPT
Hi, po 14. 9. 2020 v 9:59 odesílatel Ondrej Novy napsal: > I prepared scripts for: > >- cloning ACLs from modules+applications subgroups to newly created >packages subgroup >- transferring all project from modules+applications to packages >subgroup >- tested on one project: >https://salsa.debian.org/python-team/packages/alembic > > done. Sorry for those notification emails. I globally disabled notification after suggestion from ansgar so you should receive only ~60 emails. Todo: - send debian-devel-announce (i will) - mass-commit vcs+maintainer change - figure out if we can remove subgroups "modules" and "applications" (will it keep redirects?) - cleanup "tools" subgroup (remove application policy, etc.) - ...? Example of mass-commit: https://salsa.debian.org/python-team/packages/alembic/-/commit/0519af5c5f82cced88431b6c0ec364f2979e0c42 https://salsa.debian.org/python-team/packages/alembic/-/commit/51dbd7b278551fbd33abac72c7a240e6baea6a16 Suggestion for better wording of changelog is welcome. -- Best regards Ondřej Nový
Re: Merging the PAPT and the DMPT
Hi, út 15. 9. 2020 v 0:12 odesílatel Christian Kastner napsal: > Has getting rid of the subgroups entirely been considered, IOW: moving > the packages directory to python-team/? > > The only remaining subgroup seems to be "tooling", and that could live > on as a subgroup unless I'm misunderstanding GitLab. > reason is ACL. We need different access for "tools" and for "packages". -- Best regards Ondřej Nový
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On Sat, Sep 19, 2020 at 06:24:06PM -0600, Nicholas D Steeves wrote: > Are there plans to do this team-wide (for team email in Maintainer) in > one fell swoop, or will this be a per-maintainer task? I know Ondrej has the tooling to do mass updates, so I hope he will do it :) Of course this is only about updating fields in git, there is no need to upload to archive just because of metadata change. -- Dmitry Shachnev signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Merging the PAPT and the DMPT
Hi, Dmitry Shachnev writes: > Hi Ondrej! > > On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 09:59:00AM +0200, Ondrej Novy wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I prepared scripts for: >> >>- cloning ACLs from modules+applications subgroups to newly created >>packages subgroup >>- transferring all project from modules+applications to packages subgroup >>- tested on one project: >>https://salsa.debian.org/python-team/packages/alembic >> >> It looks like old web URLs works just fine: >> https://salsa.debian.org/python-team/modules/alembic > > I think it's better to update Vcs fields in all packages to point to the > new location, not one that redirects. > > Probably also update Maintainer/Uploader fields with the new team name/email. > Are there plans to do this team-wide (for team email in Maintainer) in one fell swoop, or will this be a per-maintainer task? Thanks, Nicholas signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Merging the PAPT and the DMPT
On 2020-09-14 17 h 54, Christian Kastner wrote: > On 2020-09-14 09:59, Ondrej Novy wrote: >> * transferring all project from modules+applications to packages subgroup > > Has getting rid of the subgroups entirely been considered, IOW: moving > the packages directory to python-team/? > > The only remaining subgroup seems to be "tooling", and that could live > on as a subgroup unless I'm misunderstanding GitLab. > At this point, I'm not sure it makes a huge difference. I like the division, as it keeps the tools and the packages separated in a clear way. -- ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Louis-Philippe Véronneau ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋ po...@debian.org / veronneau.org ⠈⠳⣄ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Merging the PAPT and the DMPT
On 2020-09-14 09:59, Ondrej Novy wrote: > * transferring all project from modules+applications to packages subgroup Has getting rid of the subgroups entirely been considered, IOW: moving the packages directory to python-team/? The only remaining subgroup seems to be "tooling", and that could live on as a subgroup unless I'm misunderstanding GitLab.
Re: Merging the PAPT and the DMPT
Hi, po 14. 9. 2020 v 14:39 odesílatel Dmitry Shachnev napsal: > I think it's better to update Vcs fields in all packages to point to the > new location, not one that redirects. > > Probably also update Maintainer/Uploader fields with the new team > name/email. > yep. But updating these is a "never ending process". Because we can simply commit change to git, but upload of some packages will take ages :) Good news is we don't need to hurry with this update. -- Best regards Ondřej Nový
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Hi, po 14. 9. 2020 v 14:26 odesílatel Emmanuel Arias napsal: > So, we shouldn't be worried about changing the VCS-* path during the > migration process, isn't it? > right, we should update them in d/control, but it will work with old one too, which simplifies that process. -- Best regards Ondřej Nový
Re: Merging the PAPT and the DMPT
Hi Ondrej! On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 09:59:00AM +0200, Ondrej Novy wrote: > Hi, > > I prepared scripts for: > >- cloning ACLs from modules+applications subgroups to newly created >packages subgroup >- transferring all project from modules+applications to packages subgroup >- tested on one project: >https://salsa.debian.org/python-team/packages/alembic > > It looks like old web URLs works just fine: > https://salsa.debian.org/python-team/modules/alembic I think it's better to update Vcs fields in all packages to point to the new location, not one that redirects. Probably also update Maintainer/Uploader fields with the new team name/email. -- Dmitry Shachnev signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Merging the PAPT and the DMPT
Hi, On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 5:15 AM Ondrej Novy wrote: > Hi, > > I prepared scripts for: > >- cloning ACLs from modules+applications subgroups to newly created >packages subgroup >- transferring all project from modules+applications to packages >subgroup >- tested on one project: >https://salsa.debian.org/python-team/packages/alembic > > It looks like old web URLs works just fine: > https://salsa.debian.org/python-team/modules/alembic > So, we shouldn't be worried about changing the VCS-* path during the migration process, isn't it? > > > and cloning too: > $ git clone ssh://g...@salsa.debian.org/python-team/modules/alembic.git > Cloning into 'alembic'... > remote: Enumerating objects: 1141, done. > remote: Counting objects: 100% (1141/1141), done. > remote: Compressing objects: 100% (558/558), done. > remote: Total 1141 (delta 720), reused 932 (delta 543), pack-reused 0 > Receiving objects: 100% (1141/1141), 882.54 KiB | 989.00 KiB/s, done. > Resolving deltas: 100% (720/720), done. > $ > > $ git clone https://salsa.debian.org/python-team/modules/alembic.git > Cloning into 'alembic'... > remote: Enumerating objects: 1141, done. > remote: Counting objects: 100% (1141/1141), done. > remote: Compressing objects: 100% (558/558), done. > remote: Total 1141 (delta 720), reused 932 (delta 543), pack-reused 0 > Receiving objects: 100% (1141/1141), 882.54 KiB | 3.33 MiB/s, done. > Resolving deltas: 100% (720/720), done. > $ > > Any thoughts? > > pá 28. 8. 2020 v 15:36 odesílatel Ondrej Novy napsal: > >> Hi, >> >> pá 28. 8. 2020 v 15:27 odesílatel Louis-Philippe Véronneau < >> po...@debian.org> napsal: >> >>> I think changing the path would be a good idea, as I don't see the point >>> between the libraries and applications divide. >> >> >> +1. GitLab will take care with redirects. It's a mess now :) >> >> -- >> Best regards >> Ondřej Nový >> >> > > -- > S pozdravem/Best regards > Ondřej Nový > >
Re: Merging the PAPT and the DMPT
Hi, I prepared scripts for: - cloning ACLs from modules+applications subgroups to newly created packages subgroup - transferring all project from modules+applications to packages subgroup - tested on one project: https://salsa.debian.org/python-team/packages/alembic It looks like old web URLs works just fine: https://salsa.debian.org/python-team/modules/alembic and cloning too: $ git clone ssh://g...@salsa.debian.org/python-team/modules/alembic.git Cloning into 'alembic'... remote: Enumerating objects: 1141, done. remote: Counting objects: 100% (1141/1141), done. remote: Compressing objects: 100% (558/558), done. remote: Total 1141 (delta 720), reused 932 (delta 543), pack-reused 0 Receiving objects: 100% (1141/1141), 882.54 KiB | 989.00 KiB/s, done. Resolving deltas: 100% (720/720), done. $ $ git clone https://salsa.debian.org/python-team/modules/alembic.git Cloning into 'alembic'... remote: Enumerating objects: 1141, done. remote: Counting objects: 100% (1141/1141), done. remote: Compressing objects: 100% (558/558), done. remote: Total 1141 (delta 720), reused 932 (delta 543), pack-reused 0 Receiving objects: 100% (1141/1141), 882.54 KiB | 3.33 MiB/s, done. Resolving deltas: 100% (720/720), done. $ Any thoughts? pá 28. 8. 2020 v 15:36 odesílatel Ondrej Novy napsal: > Hi, > > pá 28. 8. 2020 v 15:27 odesílatel Louis-Philippe Véronneau < > po...@debian.org> napsal: > >> I think changing the path would be a good idea, as I don't see the point >> between the libraries and applications divide. > > > +1. GitLab will take care with redirects. It's a mess now :) > > -- > Best regards > Ondřej Nový > > -- S pozdravem/Best regards Ondřej Nový
Re: Merging the PAPT and the DMPT
On 2020-09-07 13:38, Ondrej Novy wrote: > ~10 days without reply, merged. I'm really happy about this :-) I've always found the split odd. By the way, this might be something worth sending to debian-devel-announce, possibly including a short summary/description of how this affects contributors (what changes need to be made, etc.)
Re: Merging the PAPT and the DMPT
Hi, pá 28. 8. 2020 v 15:04 odesílatel Ondrej Novy napsal: > But because it's really huge change I want ack from at least one another > admin. > ~10 days without reply, merged. Thanks for working on this! -- Best regards Ondřej Nový
Re: Merging the PAPT and the DMPT
On 2020-08-28 10 h 53, Emmanuel Arias wrote: > oops, I forgot, I think we must update the line > > ``` > Copyright (c) 2005-2019 Debian Python Team. All rights reserved. > ``` > > to 2020, isn't? Fixed. -- ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Louis-Philippe Véronneau ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋ po...@debian.org / veronneau.org ⠈⠳⣄ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Merging the PAPT and the DMPT
oops, I forgot, I think we must update the line ``` Copyright (c) 2005-2019 Debian Python Team. All rights reserved. ``` to 2020, isn't? On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 11:52 AM Emmanuel Arias wrote: > Hi everybody! > > +1 for the merge. > > I think it's easy to change the link to vcs-* in bulk? (Talking from my > ignorance) > > Cheers! > Emmanuel > > > On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 10:54 AM Ondrej Novy wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> pá 28. 8. 2020 v 15:27 odesílatel Louis-Philippe Véronneau < >> po...@debian.org> napsal: >> >>> I think changing the path would be a good idea, as I don't see the point >>> between the libraries and applications divide. >> >> >> +1. GitLab will take care with redirects. It's a mess now :) >> >> -- >> Best regards >> Ondřej Nový >> >>
Re: Merging the PAPT and the DMPT
Hi everybody! +1 for the merge. I think it's easy to change the link to vcs-* in bulk? (Talking from my ignorance) Cheers! Emmanuel On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 10:54 AM Ondrej Novy wrote: > Hi, > > pá 28. 8. 2020 v 15:27 odesílatel Louis-Philippe Véronneau < > po...@debian.org> napsal: > >> I think changing the path would be a good idea, as I don't see the point >> between the libraries and applications divide. > > > +1. GitLab will take care with redirects. It's a mess now :) > > -- > Best regards > Ondřej Nový > >
Re: Merging the PAPT and the DMPT
Hi, pá 28. 8. 2020 v 15:27 odesílatel Louis-Philippe Véronneau napsal: > I think changing the path would be a good idea, as I don't see the point > between the libraries and applications divide. +1. GitLab will take care with redirects. It's a mess now :) -- Best regards Ondřej Nový
Re: Merging the PAPT and the DMPT
On 2020-08-28 05 h 28, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: > Can you please also describe the current plans for changing/not changing > the Git paths after the merge? > During the BoF, most people were against changing the git paths after the merge and this differs from the discussion we had in the Merge Request. In the MR, people proposed we move everything to a "/packages" path to simplify things. The rationale is Gitlab should be taking care of redirecting the old URLs to the new ones for us seamlessly. I think changing the path would be a good idea, as I don't see the point between the libraries and applications divide. Then again, if people prefer we don't move things around, I don't really mind either. -- ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Louis-Philippe Véronneau ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋ po...@debian.org / veronneau.org ⠈⠳⣄ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Merging the PAPT and the DMPT
Hi, čt 27. 8. 2020 v 22:22 odesílatel Louis-Philippe Véronneau napsal: > In October 2019, following a short discussion on the ML [1], I opened a > merge request on the policy [2] for this. Most if not all issues in that > MR have since been resolved and the only blocker is getting the admins > approval. > as DPMT/PAPT admin I agree with merging of these subteams and I agree with this MR. But because it's really huge change I want ack from at least one another admin. Thanks a lot for working on this. -- Best regards Ondřej Nový
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Can you please also describe the current plans for changing/not changing the Git paths after the merge? -- WBR, wRAR signature.asc Description: PGP signature
