Re: pypi-install for python3?

2011-05-16 Thread Barry Warsaw
On May 15, 2011, at 11:57 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote:

 http://pkgme.net/

Which is rather less complete for Python packaging than stdeb and I'd prefer 
we don't recommend.

Perhaps, but I think it's a good project to contribute to if you want to make
package easier for people (not just for Python stuff).

Cheers,
-Barry


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Re: pypi-install for python3?

2011-05-16 Thread Scott Kitterman
Barry Warsaw ba...@python.org wrote:

On May 15, 2011, at 11:57 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote:

 http://pkgme.net/

Which is rather less complete for Python packaging than stdeb and I'd
prefer 
we don't recommend.

Perhaps, but I think it's a good project to contribute to if you want
to make
package easier for people (not just for Python stuff).

Grab something from pypi, run it through both, and then compare the resulting 
packages.

I think it's deeply unfortunate that the pkgme authors chose duplicate 
something for which there is already a reasonably complete solution rather than 
focus on areas where that was not the case or improving the existing solution.

Scott K

Re: pypi-install for python3?

2011-05-16 Thread Sandro Tosi
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 16:43, Scott Kitterman deb...@kitterman.com wrote:
 I think it's deeply unfortunate that the pkgme authors chose duplicate
 something for which there is already a reasonably complete solution rather
 than focus on areas where that was not the case or improving the existing
 solution.

ehm, isn't this exactly the python-support/dh_python2 critics?

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Re: pypi-install for python3?

2011-05-16 Thread Scott Kitterman
Sandro Tosi mo...@debian.org wrote:

On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 16:43, Scott Kitterman deb...@kitterman.com
wrote:
 I think it's deeply unfortunate that the pkgme authors chose
duplicate
 something for which there is already a reasonably complete solution
rather
 than focus on areas where that was not the case or improving the
existing
 solution.

ehm, isn't this exactly the python-support/dh_python2 critics?

It's similar, but in that case there were two existing implementations, neither 
of which were fully satisfactory, nor were they likely to become so. A fresh 
implementation was necessary to break a technical and social logjam.

I recognize that not everyone shares this view (and I don't see a point in 
re-arguing it), but I think the similarity is only superficial.

Scott K


Re: pypi-install for python3?

2011-05-16 Thread Scott Kitterman
Sandro Tosi mo...@debian.org wrote:

On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 16:43, Scott Kitterman deb...@kitterman.com
wrote:
 I think it's deeply unfortunate that the pkgme authors chose
duplicate
 something for which there is already a reasonably complete solution
rather
 than focus on areas where that was not the case or improving the
existing
 solution.

ehm, isn't this exactly the python-support/dh_python2 critics?

It's similar, but in that case there were two existing implementations, neither 
of which were fully satisfactory, nor were they likely to become so. A fresh 
implementation was necessary to break a technical and social logjam.

I recognize that not everyone shares this view (and I don't see a point in 
re-arguing it), but I think the similarity is only superficial.

Scott K


Re: pypi-install for python3?

2011-05-15 Thread Piotr Ożarowski
[Janne Snabb, 2011-05-13]
 I assume that pypi-install is the most sensible way to install
 Python packages which have not been packaged for Debian.

true

[...] 
 How do I tell pypi-install to install packages for python3? By
 default it installs the packages so that they are available only
 to the old python2.6.

stdeb (pypi-install) doesn't support python3-foo packages yet
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Re: pypi-install for python3?

2011-05-15 Thread Barry Warsaw
On May 15, 2011, at 10:40 PM, Piotr Ożarowski wrote:

[Janne Snabb, 2011-05-13]
 I assume that pypi-install is the most sensible way to install
 Python packages which have not been packaged for Debian.

true

[...] 
 How do I tell pypi-install to install packages for python3? By
 default it installs the packages so that they are available only
 to the old python2.6.

stdeb (pypi-install) doesn't support python3-foo packages yet

Tbere's also pkgme.

http://pkgme.net/

-Barry


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Re: pypi-install for python3?

2011-05-15 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Sunday, May 15, 2011 06:24:47 PM Barry Warsaw wrote:
 On May 15, 2011, at 10:40 PM, Piotr Ożarowski wrote:
 [Janne Snabb, 2011-05-13]
 
  I assume that pypi-install is the most sensible way to install
  Python packages which have not been packaged for Debian.
 
 true
 
 [...]
 
  How do I tell pypi-install to install packages for python3? By
  default it installs the packages so that they are available only
  to the old python2.6.
 
 stdeb (pypi-install) doesn't support python3-foo packages yet
 
 Tbere's also pkgme.
 
 http://pkgme.net/

Which is rather less complete for Python packaging than stdeb and I'd prefer 
we don't recommend.

Scott K


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