Re: python debug packages

2016-05-17 Thread Matthias Klose

On 14.05.2016 23:26, Iustin Pop wrote:

On 2016-04-22 19:36:12, Matthias Klose wrote:

On 22.04.2016 16:58, Jean-Michel Vourgère wrote:

Hi

Now that debug symbols are automatically generated in -dbgsym packages,
how do you handle the debug
/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/.x86_64-linux-gnu_d.so files?

They used to go in a generic -dbg package.


[…]


- Do not migrate to new style -dbgsym packages and keep everything in
rrtool-dbg, like it is now.


that would be my preferred solution.


Reading
https://wiki.debian.org/Python/LibraryStyleGuide#Building_python_-dbg_packages,
there is some hints to this, but it's not clear that only automatic
debug packages work for Python packages. Would it make sense to update
the wiki page and say "don't migrate to dbgsym packages as Python needs
debug extensions and not only debug symbols"?


sounds fine.



Re: python debug packages

2016-05-14 Thread Iustin Pop
On 2016-04-22 19:36:12, Matthias Klose wrote:
> On 22.04.2016 16:58, Jean-Michel Vourgère wrote:
> > Hi
> > 
> > Now that debug symbols are automatically generated in -dbgsym packages,
> > how do you handle the debug
> > /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/.x86_64-linux-gnu_d.so files?
> > 
> > They used to go in a generic -dbg package.

[…]

> > - Do not migrate to new style -dbgsym packages and keep everything in
> > rrtool-dbg, like it is now.
> 
> that would be my preferred solution.

Reading
https://wiki.debian.org/Python/LibraryStyleGuide#Building_python_-dbg_packages,
there is some hints to this, but it's not clear that only automatic
debug packages work for Python packages. Would it make sense to update
the wiki page and say "don't migrate to dbgsym packages as Python needs
debug extensions and not only debug symbols"?

thanks,
iustin



Re: python debug packages

2016-04-22 Thread Matthias Klose

On 22.04.2016 16:58, Jean-Michel Vourgère wrote:

Hi

Now that debug symbols are automatically generated in -dbgsym packages,
how do you handle the debug
/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/.x86_64-linux-gnu_d.so files?

They used to go in a generic -dbg package.

I'm thinking about rrdtool, and it already has a lot of packages:
https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/rrdtool

I'm considering creating a specific python-rrdtool-dbg package.

Other options I can think of are:
- Put the debug .so file into the main python-rrdtool package


no, that would add dependencies on the python-dbg packages by default.


- Do not migrate to new style -dbgsym packages and keep everything in
rrtool-dbg, like it is now.


that would be my preferred solution.


- Stop bothering about this debug .so file, and trash it.


please don't.



python debug packages

2016-04-22 Thread Jean-Michel Vourgère
Hi

Now that debug symbols are automatically generated in -dbgsym packages,
how do you handle the debug
/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/.x86_64-linux-gnu_d.so files?

They used to go in a generic -dbg package.

I'm thinking about rrdtool, and it already has a lot of packages:
https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/rrdtool

I'm considering creating a specific python-rrdtool-dbg package.

Other options I can think of are:
- Put the debug .so file into the main python-rrdtool package
- Do not migrate to new style -dbgsym packages and keep everything in
rrtool-dbg, like it is now.
- Stop bothering about this debug .so file, and trash it.

Any suggestion anyone?



Re: Package relationships for python debug packages

2010-10-19 Thread Christian Kastner
On Tue, 19 Oct 2010 13:23:35 +1100, Ben Finney
ben+deb...@benfinney.id.au
wrote:
 Howdy all,
 
 What relationship should be declared between a binary ‘python-foo-dbg’
 package and the ‘python-dbg’ package?
 
 I can't remember the rationale, but the consensus was not what I
 expected. Should the binary package ‘Depends: python-dbg’, or should it
 instead ‘Recommends: python-dbg’? What's the rationale?

In http://wiki.debian.org/Python/DbgBuilds, we argued for ‘Recommends:
python-dbg’ if the package can be used without the debug interpreter (eg:
it contains the stripped debugging symbols for use with gdb); otherwise,
‘Depends: python-dbg’.


Christian


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Re: Package relationships for python debug packages

2010-10-19 Thread Ben Finney
Christian Kastner deb...@kvr.at writes:

 In http://wiki.debian.org/Python/DbgBuilds, we argued for ‘Recommends:
 python-dbg’ if the package can be used without the debug interpreter
 (eg: it contains the stripped debugging symbols for use with gdb);
 otherwise, ‘Depends: python-dbg’.

That covers it. Thank you.

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Package relationships for python debug packages

2010-10-18 Thread Ben Finney
Howdy all,

What relationship should be declared between a binary ‘python-foo-dbg’
package and the ‘python-dbg’ package?

My search-fu must be weak today. I remember a discussion somewhere
regarding Python extensions in C and the resulting ‘python-foo-dbg’
package.

I can't remember the rationale, but the consensus was not what I
expected. Should the binary package ‘Depends: python-dbg’, or should it
instead ‘Recommends: python-dbg’? What's the rationale?

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