Re: automatic testing of dist-upgrades (was: Re: Ideas for additional large scale tests)

2007-03-19 Thread François Déchelle
Hello, Sorry for the delay... Filippo Giunchedi a écrit : Hi, TULIP uses qemu to run automatic upgrades on 'virtual' installations; this way, you can test the dist-upgrade of several environments. The cons is that it is quite slow. There is more information about TULIP on: http://www.edos

Re: Ideas for additional large scale tests

2007-03-14 Thread Filippo Giunchedi
On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 10:53:34AM +0100, Loïc Minier wrote: > > > > > > I've been rebuilding the GNOME stack with a couple of interesting QA > > > tests: > > > - -Os in CFLAGS > > > - -Wl,-O1 in LDFLAGS > > > - -Wl,-z,defs in LDFLAGS > > > - -j2 in MAKEFLAGS > > > - use differents director

Re: automatic testing of dist-upgrades (was: Re: Ideas for additional large scale tests)

2007-03-06 Thread Filippo Giunchedi
Hi, On Tue, Mar 06, 2007 at 05:23:13PM +0100, François Déchelle wrote: > Hello, > > I'm in the edos project, and there are I think 2 set of tools which can > be usefull: > - dependencies management tools, probably anla, but I don't know the > dependencies management tools enough in depth to giv

Re: automatic testing of dist-upgrades (was: Re: Ideas for additional large scale tests)

2007-03-06 Thread François Déchelle
Filippo Giunchedi a écrit : [opening a new thread, since it was the original idea] On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 02:59:59PM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: I'm more worried about how you choose the environment you want to dist-upgrade. Various criteria that come to my mind (braindump): - base system

Re: Ideas for additional large scale tests

2007-03-04 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Paul Wise <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070303 06:50]: > On Wed, 2007-02-28 at 10:41 +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > > > Well, what I'm looking for is: > > > > [A] People with good ideas of tests that would improve Debian's > > quality, or Free Software's quality in general > > One idea: double pack

Re: Ideas for additional large scale tests

2007-03-02 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, 2007-02-28 at 10:41 +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > Well, what I'm looking for is: > > [A] People with good ideas of tests that would improve Debian's > quality, or Free Software's quality in general One idea: double package rebuilds, second rebuild in the same non-cleaned chroot. The

Re: Ideas for additional large scale tests

2007-03-01 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 02:59:59PM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > I'm more worried about how you choose the environment you want to > dist-upgrade. Various criteria that come to my mind (braindump): > - base system only (pro: easy to set up, cons: tests a too small set of > package) > - \fora

automatic testing of dist-upgrades (was: Re: Ideas for additional large scale tests)

2007-03-01 Thread Filippo Giunchedi
[opening a new thread, since it was the original idea] On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 02:59:59PM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > I'm more worried about how you choose the environment you want to > dist-upgrade. Various criteria that come to my mind (braindump): > - base system only (pro: easy to set u

Re: Ideas for additional large scale tests

2007-03-01 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 02:27:54PM +0100, Filippo Giunchedi wrote: > how about testing automatic dist-upgrades like stable->testing? I love this idea: as a maintainer is quite a burden to take care of this, a massive testing effort would help a lot of DDs out there! > of course this is not trivia

Re: Ideas for additional large scale tests

2007-03-01 Thread Filippo Giunchedi
On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 10:41:25AM +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > Well, what I'm looking for is: > > [A] People with good ideas of tests that would improve Debian's > quality, or Free Software's quality in general > > [B] People willing to help with providing code for the tests, and > pro

Re: Ideas for additional large scale tests

2007-02-28 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Wed, 2007-02-28 at 10:41 +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > Well, what I'm looking for is: > > [A] People with good ideas of tests that would improve Debian's > quality, or Free Software's quality in general > > [B] People willing to help with providing code for the tests, and > providing

Re: Ideas for additional large scale tests

2007-02-28 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 27/02/07 at 10:53 +0100, Loïc Minier wrote: > Hi there, > > (We had a small exchange via private email with Lucas and he suggested > we continue the discussion on debian-qa@, hence full text included > below.) > > On Mon, Feb 26, 2007, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > > On 24/02/07 at 16:34

Re: Ideas for additional large scale tests

2007-02-27 Thread Loïc Minier
On Tue, Feb 27, 2007, Bastian Venthur wrote: > Just one thought: Why not test "-Wl,--as-needed" too? It should greatly > reduce the number of dependencies for most packages without the tedious > and error-prone task to re-libtoolize the package for every new release. --as-needed would also be a t

Re: Ideas for additional large scale tests

2007-02-27 Thread Bastian Venthur
Just one thought: Why not test "-Wl,--as-needed" too? It should greatly reduce the number of dependencies for most packages without the tedious and error-prone task to re-libtoolize the package for every new release. I'd also like to know how many percent of our packages which could be re-libtooli

Re: Ideas for additional large scale tests

2007-02-27 Thread Loïc Minier
Hi there, (We had a small exchange via private email with Lucas and he suggested we continue the discussion on debian-qa@, hence full text included below.) On Mon, Feb 26, 2007, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > On 24/02/07 at 16:34 +0100, Loïc Minier wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I've been r