Bug#774141: kdevelop-python should be renamed kdevelop-python3
Package: kdevelop-python Version: 1.7.0-1 https://packages.debian.org/sid/kdevelop-python gives the description of this package as Python 3 plugin for KDevelop. Normally IIUC python3 related packages are marked as python3 and not just as python. I submit that it would be advisable to rename the package as kdevelop-python3 and instead package the Python 2 plugin as kdevelop-python. (Should I report a separate bug asking for Py 2 plugin?) Downstream Kubuntu has already independently packaged the Python 2 plugin as kdev-python since last two releases (http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=kdev-pythonsearchon=names), and is also now inheriting the kdevelop-python package from Debian (http://packages.ubuntu.com/source/vivid/kdevelop-python) which leads to an infelicitous naming situation there i.e. kdev-python for Py 2 vs kdevelop-python for Py 3. While I am going to report a separate bug downstream to align with Debian on the naming issue, I believe Debian should also rename the kdevelop-python package to kdevelop-python3 to make way for kdevelop-python for a Py 2 package. Thanks. -- Shriramana Sharma ஶ்ரீரமணஶர்மா श्रीरमणशर्मा -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-qt-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CAH-HCWV-Sr1iyKhHAECMjU34cK58=0ztsyzo969ehlkdhgq...@mail.gmail.com
Bug#747716: closed by Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer perezme...@gmail.com (Not a bug)
I haven't disregarded anything you/Scott said. I specifically mentioned in that thread that developers say such-and-such. Didn't you notice that? I suppose I have the freedom to disagree with your opinion and try to elicit community opinion. That is what I did. And note that I am not unnecessarily continuing to make noise by saying developers are not listening to users etc etc. I voiced my opinion as a user, didn't get overmuch support for it from other users, and gave in to the developers' opinion then. I suppose that's a good democratic process. Please don't be sarcastic when someone is just trying to improve the Debian packaging or documentation by submitting/voicing their opinion or trying to mobilize community opinion. Lisandro was nice enough to say Even if we might disagree is good to have feedback from our users. I suppose you can be polite like that too. Thank you for your good work on Debian. -- Shriramana Sharma ஶ்ரீரமணஶர்மா श्रीरमणशर्मा -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-qt-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/cah-hcwwttog0ihpjbe5rr1ppfctzomh32v+pseun01fug9m...@mail.gmail.com
Bug#747716: closed by Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer perezme...@gmail.com (Not a bug)
Hello and thanks for your kind words while closing the bug. As you may have noticed I tried to elicit community opinion on debian-user, but there weren't many responses -- just two, one for and one against. So I guess it's going to be as it is. But at least please update the packaging documentation on Depends and Recommends to clarify that when a package contains multiple programs [that word nowadays seems quite archaic! :-)], the dependency of only one of those programs will be considered a Recommends and not a Depends. Thank you. -- Shriramana Sharma ஶ்ரீரமணஶர்மா श्रीरमणशर्मा -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-qt-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/cah-hcww6ttrg59muj3dwmprtdmj4jttvbpd5uj2ni5dfb3x...@mail.gmail.com
Bug#747716: Fwd: KDbg should be upgraded to latest version to work with latest GDB
Package: qttools-opensource-src Version: 5.2.1-8build1 I am using Kubuntu Trusty 64 bit. Since the relevant package is not modified downstream for Ubuntu, I am reporting this bug against Debian. https://packages.debian.org/sid/qttools5-dev-tools shows that libqt5sql5-sqlite is only a Recommends. However, without installing the latter, I am not able to run Qt 5 Assistant at all: $ assistant -qt=5 QSqlDatabase: QSQLITE driver not loaded QSqlDatabase: available drivers: Error reading collection file '/home/samjnaa/.local/share/QtProject/Assistant/qthelpcollection_5.2.1.qhc': Cannot load sqlite database driver!. Installing the libqt5sql5-sqlite package allows Qt 5 Assistant to load. Apparently this is a hard dependency which is mistakenly labeled as a Recommends. Please fix this. Thank you. -- Shriramana Sharma ஶ்ரீரமணஶர்மா श्रीरमणशर्मा -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-qt-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CAH-HCWXLcHfD8ptOQgF9MFH7Adkh�_xhluum4tzxe6gma...@mail.gmail.com
Bug#747716: Fwd: KDbg should be upgraded to latest version to work with latest GDB
Hello. You say it is not a hard depends, but https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/dreq.en.html#control says to use Depends if your program absolutely will not run (or will cause severe breakage) unless a particular package is present. Given that assistant is one of the programs installed by this package, and it does not run without the libqt*sqlite package, IMO it stands to reason that the latter is indeed a Depends. The page above does not seem to say anything special re many programs installed by a single package. In any case, if I install a package, I expect to be able to run the programs installed by it. Hence the dependency of one of the programs of the package should be a dependency of the package. If it is felt important to avoid installing that dependency unless absolutely necessary, then the program should be put in a separate package IMO. BTW apologies for botching up the title/version number. Also, I had provided the source package name based on Launchpad experience -- I can now see it in Debian should be the binary package with the source package given as part of the version. -- Shriramana Sharma ஶ்ரீரமணஶர்மா श्रीरमणशर्मा -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-qt-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/cah-hcwupe_ca1tu4itgqmhc4yjbx_7_dtn_04avpeprjpjw...@mail.gmail.com
Bug#747716: qttools5-dev-tools: libqt5sql5-sqlite should be a hard dependency
On 5/11/14, Scott Kitterman deb...@kitterman.com wrote: On Sunday, May 11, 2014 18:52:31 Shriramana Sharma wrote: Hello. You say it is not a hard depends, but https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/dreq.en.html#control says to use Depends if your program absolutely will not run (or will cause severe breakage) unless a particular package is present. Given that assistant is one of the programs installed by this package, and it does not run without the libqt*sqlite package, IMO it stands to reason that the latter is indeed a Depends. You are misreading that. In this case Recommends is what is typically used. You say typically used -- you are saying this is current existing practice of package maintainers. Fine. But it is not as per the policy as it is stated in the above page. Please point out where in the specification does it say Recommends is used for packages which are a dependency of one/some but not all of the programs installed by a package? The policy as it stands as to what are Depends, Recommends and Suggests is quite sane, but it seems to speak as if one package installs one program only. One would assume that what is said by the wording for one program is true in general, and hence program would be read as programs. In which case, whatever one of the programmed installed by a package cannot be executed without is indeed a dependency. Debian (and Ubuntu) install Recommends by default, so the only reason you wouldn't have Recommends installed too is if your system is in a non-standard configuration. If so, that's the problem, not the package. I do not install recommends by default because I am not on a very high speed connection. Probably others may choose it because they are on a connected billed by bandwidth used. Whatever be the reason for not installing recommends, I expect that when I install a package using apt-get, it should pull in the hard dependencies, and the hard dependencies are those which are required to execute whatever is installed by the package. As I said earlier, the dependency of one program installed by the package should be a dependency of the package. If not, it is simply counter-intuitive. -- Shriramana Sharma ஶ்ரீரமணஶர்மா श्रीरमणशर्मा -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-qt-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CAH-HCWUq7KqoHYky-uE=wwu0kjrsrspk640oqg9vprfn-c5...@mail.gmail.com
