Re: Move of update-grub and grub-install to /usr/sbin

2006-08-12 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2006-08-11 Otavio Salvador [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I plan to upload a group of changes to grub and grub-installer to move update-grub and grub-install to /usr/sbin/. For this to happen, my transition plan is described bellow: - A new grub package would be uploaded to unstable having a

Re: getting erlang into testing

2006-08-12 Thread Torsten Werner
Hi Steve, 2006/7/11, Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tue, Jul 11, 2006 at 07:44:47PM +0200, Torsten Werner wrote: may you help getting erlang into testing, please? This requires removal of those binary packages by the ftp team, then. You'll want to file a bug against ftp.debian.org.

Re: Move of update-grub and grub-install to /usr/sbin

2006-08-12 Thread Otavio Salvador
Andreas Metzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: RM team, is ok to me go forward with it? Why can't you just ship a symlink in the old location? Yes I can but I want to warn the user so he'll handle the modification by himself. -- O T A V I OS A L V A D O R

BinNMUs for packages still linking against libgnutls12

2006-08-12 Thread Andreas Metzler
Hej, please schedule the following binNMUs to relink the packages against gnutls13: centericq_4.21.0-11, rebuild against gnutls13, 1, i386 arm alpha amd64 hppa ia64 m68k mips mipsel powerpc s390 sparc bibletime_1.5.3-1, rebuild against gnutls13, 1, alpha arm hppa i386 ia64 m68k mips mipsel

Re: Etch timeline is unrealistic because non-free firmware is NOT being dealt with

2006-08-12 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Daniel Dickinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sun, 06 Aug 2006 23:52:01 +0200 Goswin von Brederlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They have always been a problem and have always violated the license of the rest of the kernel. It is just that nobody noticed or cared before but now the cat is out

Re: Etch timeline is unrealistic because non-free firmware is NOT being dealt with

2006-08-12 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sat, Aug 12, 2006 at 11:03:29PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Compare it to including a hexdump of an image or sound in a header file and including that in the binary. And compare it with having that same image or sound as external file shipped in

Re: [Pkg-xfce-devel] Holding off xfce4 uploads until current packages migrate to testing

2006-08-12 Thread Simon Huggins
On Sun, Aug 06, 2006 at 11:51:08AM +0100, Simon Huggins wrote: On Sun, Aug 06, 2006 at 12:56:40AM +0200, Adeodato Simó wrote: I'm tracking it here: http://ftp-master.debian.org/~adeodato/migration/libxfce4util.html If you don't mind, I'd like to ask you to hold off if possible any

Re: Etch timeline is unrealistic because non-free firmware is NOT being dealt with

2006-08-12 Thread Sven Luther
On Sat, Aug 12, 2006 at 12:46:18AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, Aug 10, 2006 at 06:14:08PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Where people buy their hardware or how free their hardware is has

Re: D-I Beta 3 and /etc/defaults/pcmciautils

2006-08-12 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, Aug 11, 2006 at 05:42:34PM -0700, Sean Shapira wrote: Congratulations on releasing Etch Debian Installer Beta 3! I used the businesscard ISO today on an ancient laptop, and it all went pretty smoothly! One suggestion, though: When the installer uses a pcmcia device to perform an

Re: Move of update-grub and grub-install to /usr/sbin

2006-08-12 Thread Geert Stappers
On Fri, Aug 11, 2006 at 06:10:15PM -0300, Otavio Salvador wrote: Hello, I plan to upload a group of changes to grub and grub-installer to move update-grub and grub-install to /usr/sbin/. For this to happen, my transition plan is described bellow: - A new grub package would be uploaded

Re: Move of update-grub and grub-install to /usr/sbin

2006-08-12 Thread Otavio Salvador
Geert Stappers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: RM team, is ok to me go forward with it? I think the above misses the _why_ The announce only mentions the new, the proposed, location. I'm happy with the removal of the full paths, but not happy with /usr/sbin Please allow to grub install

Re: Move of update-grub and grub-install to /usr/sbin

2006-08-12 Thread Sam Morris
On Sat, 12 Aug 2006 08:07:45 -0300, Otavio Salvador wrote: You don't need grub-install to install grub Not according to http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=345931;msg=60. But I do think that lib/grub, sbin/grub-install and so on should move to /usr, or update-grub should be

Re: Etch timeline is unrealistic because non-free firmware is NOT being dealt with

2006-08-12 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Goswin von Brederlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is it an aggregation with the image linked into the binary? It doesn't matter for Debian's purposes. While the GPL permits shipping a GPL'd program merely aggregated alongside a non-free program, we don't ship the nonfree part no matter what, so

Re: Etch timeline is unrealistic because non-free firmware is NOT being dealt with

2006-08-12 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco d'Itri) writes: On Aug 07, Goswin von Brederlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, because those are not linked together with the GPLed code, but are a mere aggregation of works inside the same media, i.e. the binary file. Those non-free firmware will never run

Re: Etch timeline is unrealistic because non-free firmware is NOT being dealt with

2006-08-12 Thread Sven Luther
On Sat, Aug 12, 2006 at 11:03:29PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco d'Itri) writes: On Aug 07, Goswin von Brederlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, because those are not linked together with the GPLed code, but are a mere aggregation of works inside the