Re: Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-12 Thread Marcus Lundblad
Yes, I agress it is a good idea to have the versioning of the next release desided alread at release time for release notes. I was just a bit used to get to wonder about that a bit until release, making guesses, betting etc. :) //Marcus -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-12 Thread Matthias Klose
Alexander Reichle-Schmehl schrieb: pThe integration of OpenJDK, a free version of Sun's Java technology, into Debian GNU/Linux 5.0 made it possible to ship Java based applications in Debians main repository./p It is worth mentioning OpenJDK in Debian, but the conclusion is plain wrong and

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-11 Thread Marcus Lundblad
Hi I found this in the release notes: 4.10. Deprecated packages With the next release of Debian GNU/Linux 6.0 (codenamed squeeze)    a bigger number of server packages will be deprecated, thus updating to newer versions of those now will save you from trouble when updating to

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-11 Thread W. Martin Borgert
On 2009-02-11 16:43, Marcus Lundblad wrote: Should squeeze be referred to as 6.0 already? Wouldn't that be decided later? That has been announced by Adeodato Simó on 2009-01-28. It's a good idea to decide both release (number) and code name one release ahead for stuff like release notes, right?

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-10 Thread Daniel Baumann
Daniel Baumann wrote: jup. therefore, please include the following paragraph below the pDebian GNU/Linux can be installed [...] paragraph: [...] haven't seen a commit of that to your draft, has this been lost/forgotton or are there any problems with the paragraph? -- Address:Daniel

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-10 Thread Alexander Reichle-Schmehl
Hi! Daniel Baumann schrieb: Daniel Baumann wrote: jup. therefore, please include the following paragraph below the pDebian GNU/Linux can be installed [...] paragraph: [...] haven't seen a commit of that to your draft, has this been lost/forgotton or are there any problems with the

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-10 Thread Daniel Baumann
Alexander Reichle-Schmehl wrote: I've been busy at work and will update the draft in the evening including your change (as well as the other changes in the thread). good to know, thanks. -- Address:Daniel Baumann, Burgunderstrasse 3, CH-4562 Biberist Email:

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-10 Thread Alexander Reichle-Schmehl
Hi! Adeodato Simó schrieb: Hey, Alexander, thanks for your work here! Some minor comments follow: Thanks for the feedback; I applied your changes / added FIXME so I won't forget them. Hypervisor 3.2.1, OpenJDK 6b11 and more than 23,000 other ready to use software packages./p I don't

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-10 Thread Alexander Reichle-Schmehl
Hi! W. Martin Borgert schrieb: Maybe I overlooked it, but I suggest to mention: - Debian Live - Emdebian - Blu-ray - Netbooks/EEE PC One sentence each, written by a native speaker (i.e. not me! ha!) All these got mentioned (by now). Not sure about: - SELinux - OpenVZ Don't know

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-10 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Dienstag, 10. Februar 2009, W. Martin Borgert wrote: We could propably change aptitude into apt-get by a simple search and replace in the release notes. I think it would be better to explicitly mention this change. Granted, many people never switched to aptitude, but for those who did

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-10 Thread Alexander Reichle-Schmehl
Hi! W. Martin Borgert schrieb: It's difficult to change all occurrences at the same time. Why not start with the release announcement and explicitly say 1x000 *source* packages? Let's change it in other documents/pages when we're at them. Counting binary packages feels a little bit like

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-10 Thread W. Martin Borgert
On 2009-02-10 11:32, Holger Levsen wrote: On Dienstag, 10. Februar 2009, W. Martin Borgert wrote: We could propably change aptitude into apt-get by a simple search and replace in the release notes. I think it would be better to explicitly mention this change. Granted, many people never

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-10 Thread W. Martin Borgert
On 2009-02-10 20:54, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl wrote: What about: ... and more than 23,000 other packages ready to use software packages (build from over 12,000 source packages). Perfect! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-release-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe.

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-10 Thread Cyril Brulebois
W. Martin Borgert deba...@debian.org (10/02/2009): On 2009-02-10 20:54, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl wrote: What about: ... and more than 23,000 other packages ready to use software packages (build from over 12,000 source packages). built? Mraw, KiBi. signature.asc Description: Digital

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-10 Thread Alexander Reichle-Schmehl
[ dropping some lists from CC since the involved people are either subscribed somewhere else or BCCed ] Alexander Reichle-Schmehl schrieb: The most current version may be found in a private subversion repository (to avoid conflicts when using the wiki). You can get the most recent version

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-10 Thread Luk Claes
Alexander Reichle-Schmehl wrote: === h2Dedication/h2 pDebian GNU/Linux 5.0 qLenny/q to Thiemo Seufer, a Debian Developer who died on December 26th, 2008 in a tragic car accident. There seems to be a part of the sentence missing... Cheers Luk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-10 Thread Alexander Reichle-Schmehl
Luk Claes schrieb: pDebian GNU/Linux 5.0 qLenny/q to Thiemo Seufer, a Debian Developer who died on December 26th, 2008 in a tragic car accident. There seems to be a part of the sentence missing... Thanks, fixed. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-09 Thread Alexander Reichle-Schmehl
[ Sorry for the cross post; just trying to make sure everyone is aware of the current state ] Hi! Attached you'll find the current draft of the announcement for the lenny release. Based upon the announcement for the last release it's far from ready :( Especially the second and third

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-09 Thread W. Martin Borgert
Zitat von Alexander Reichle-Schmehl alexan...@schmehl.info: [ Sorry for the cross post; just trying to make sure everyone is aware of the current state ] Maybe I overlooked it, but I suggest to mention: - Debian Live - Emdebian - Blu-ray - SELinux - OpenVZ - Netbooks/EEE PC One sentence

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-09 Thread Riku Voipio
On Mon, Feb 09, 2009 at 11:15:23AM +0100, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl wrote: pDebian GNU/Linux runs on computers ranging from palmtops and handheld systems to supercomputers, and on nearly everything in between. A total of eleven architectures are supported including: Sun SPARC (sparc), HP

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-09 Thread David Paleino
On Mon, 9 Feb 2009 13:46:55 +0200, Riku Voipio wrote: On Mon, Feb 09, 2009 at 11:15:23AM +0100, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl wrote: pDebian GNU/Linux runs on computers ranging from palmtops and handheld systems to supercomputers, and on nearly everything in between. A total of eleven

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-09 Thread Adeodato Simó
Hey, Alexander, thanks for your work here! Some minor comments follow: supports a total of eleven processor architectures As per Riku's comment about armel being missing, this should be 12. A total of eleven architectures are supported including: Same here. Support for Macromedias Flash

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-09 Thread Martin Bagge / brother
On Mon, 9 Feb 2009, David Paleino wrote: processors. The old ARM port (arm) is now depreceated./p ^^^ s/depreceated/deprecated/ But... has it really been deprecated? Didn't know that :P According to the release notes it will be in Lenny but

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-09 Thread debian
McGovern ne...@debian.org Subject: Re: Draft for lenny release announcement On Mon, Feb 09, 2009 at 11:15:23AM +0100, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl wrote: Debian GNU/Linux runs on computers ranging from palmtops and handheld systems to supercomputers, and on nearly everything in between. A total

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-09 Thread Daniel Baumann
W. Martin Borgert wrote: Maybe I overlooked it, but I suggest to mention: - Debian Live jup. therefore, please include the following paragraph below the pDebian GNU/Linux can be installed [...] paragraph: pIn addition to the regular installation media, Debian GNU/Linux can now also be

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-09 Thread David Paleino
On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 14:41:12 +0100, Daniel Baumann wrote: W. Martin Borgert wrote: Maybe I overlooked it, but I suggest to mention: - Debian Live jup. therefore, please include the following paragraph below the pDebian GNU/Linux can be installed [...] paragraph: pIn addition to the

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-09 Thread Graham Cobb
On Monday 09 February 2009 13:19:06 Adeodato Simó wrote: Support for Macromedias Flash format is available via the swfdec plugin. Should Gnash be mentioned here? Is it ready for such a high profile mention? (Maintainers Bcc'ed.) I believe this would have to be (replace (R) with the

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-09 Thread Marcus Lundblad
pThe Debian Project is pleased to announce the official release of Debian GNU/Linux version 5.0, codenamed qetch/q, after 22 months of Hmm, shouldn't that be: codenamed qlenny/q :-) and pAlso beginning with Debian GNU/Linux 4.0, the package management system has been improved regarding

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-09 Thread Moritz Muehlenhoff
On 2009-02-09, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl alexan...@schmehl.info wrote: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --040603030801070601030404 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit [ Sorry for the cross post; just trying to make sure

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-09 Thread Ben Finney
Adeodato Simó d...@net.com.org.es writes: pUpgrades [… are automatically handled by the aptitude package management tool for most configurations, and to a certain degree also by the apt-get package management tool. This should be consistent with the Release Notes. I haven't been

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-09 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
Ben Finney wrote: Adeodato Simó d...@net.com.org.es writes: pUpgrades [… are automatically handled by the aptitude package management tool for most configurations, and to a certain degree also by the apt-get package management tool. This should be consistent with the Release Notes. I

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-09 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
Steve Langasek wrote: The preferred tool is aptitude. This is not a matter for you to decide by fiat. The tools recommended in the release notes should be the ones that work most reliably for dist-upgrading from the previous release. Based on various upgrade reports I've seen over the

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-09 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Feb 09, 2009 at 11:07:28PM +0200, Eugene V. Lyubimkin wrote: Ben Finney wrote: Adeodato Simó d...@net.com.org.es writes: pUpgrades [… are automatically handled by the aptitude package management tool for most configurations, and to a certain degree also by the apt-get package

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-09 Thread W. Martin Borgert
Zitat von Steve Langasek vor...@debian.org: This is not a matter for you to decide by fiat. The tools recommended in the release notes should be the ones that work most reliably for dist-upgrading from the previous release. Based on various upgrade reports I've seen over the past year, that

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-09 Thread Julien Cristau
On Mon, 2009-02-09 at 23:17 +0100, W. Martin Borgert wrote: Note, that the release notes still recommend aptitude (which I never used, so I'm neither pro nor contra), because it was agreed on for the etch release notes and the bug #411280 is still open. I would be happy if we (better late than

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-09 Thread W. Martin Borgert
Zitat von Julien Cristau jcris...@debian.org: I don't think recommending its use in the release notes for etch-lenny is a good idea at all. We could propably change aptitude into apt-get by a simple search and replace in the release notes. (Not globally, there are some cases, where this is not