Re: Bug#830978: Browserified javascript and DFSG 2

2016-07-16 Thread Neil Williams
On Sat, 16 Jul 2016 06:49:56 -0400 Sam Hartman wrote: > > "Neil" == Neil Williams writes: > >> > * The point of having the source code (with an appropriate > >> licence > etc.) is so that all our contributors, downstreams, > >> and

Re: Bug#830978: Browserified javascript and DFSG 2

2016-07-16 Thread Ian Jackson
Sam Hartman writes ("Re: Bug#830978: Browserified javascript and DFSG 2"): > [stuff] There is much that you've said that I don't necessarily disagree with, but: > Part of having good governance is to have those discussions on devel. The problem isn't having the discussi

Re: Bug#830978: Browserified javascript and DFSG 2

2016-07-16 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Neil" == Neil Williams writes: >> > * The point of having the source code (with an appropriate >> licence > etc.) is so that all our contributors, downstreams, and >> users are > able to modify the code and to share their >> modifications with each >

Re: Bug#830978: Browserified javascript and DFSG 2

2016-07-16 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Ian" == Ian Jackson writes: Ian> I would like to comment briefly on the general idea about the Ian> TC offering advice and making statements of opinion. Ian> If someone in authority in the project, such as a maintainer of Ian> the

Re: Bug#830978: Browserified javascript and DFSG 2

2016-07-15 Thread Neil Williams
On Fri, 15 Jul 2016 23:45:01 +0530 Pirate Praveen wrote: > On 2016, ജൂലൈ 15 10:46:51 PM IST, Ian Jackson > wrote: > >Sam Hartman writes ("Bug#830978: Browserified javascript and DFSG > >2"): > >> Speaking as an individual TC member,

Re: Bug#830978: Browserified javascript and DFSG 2

2016-07-15 Thread Philip Hands
Pirate Praveen writes: ... >> * For Debian, therefore, the source code for a file or program is the >> form which can be conveniently modified and shared; specifically, >> the form in which upstream will accept patches. > > This was never the intention of dfsg, it

Re: Bug#830978: Browserified javascript and DFSG 2

2016-07-15 Thread Pirate Praveen
On 2016, ജൂലൈ 15 10:46:51 PM IST, Ian Jackson wrote: >Sam Hartman writes ("Bug#830978: Browserified javascript and DFSG 2"): >> Speaking as an individual TC member, here's my personal reading of >the >> TC discussion. >> >> It's not clear that the TC is the

Re: Bug#830978: Browserified javascript and DFSG 2

2016-07-15 Thread Ian Jackson
Ian Jackson writes ("Re: Bug#830978: Browserified javascript and DFSG 2"): > I would like to comment briefly I'm sorry that I so evidently failed ! Ian.

Re: Bug#830978: Browserified javascript and DFSG 2

2016-07-15 Thread Ian Jackson
Sam Hartman writes ("Bug#830978: Browserified javascript and DFSG 2"): > Speaking as an individual TC member, here's my personal reading of the > TC discussion. > > It's not clear that the TC is the right body for this discussion. We > certainly could offer advice, but it's not clear that the

Re: Bug#830978: Browserified javascript and DFSG 2

2016-07-15 Thread Sam Hartman
Hi. Speaking as an individual TC member, here's my personal reading of the TC discussion. It's not clear that the TC is the right body for this discussion. We certainly could offer advice, but it's not clear that the ftpmasters or release team--the parties most likely to need such advice--

Re: Bug#830978: Browserified javascript and DFSG 2

2016-07-14 Thread Emilio Pozuelo Monfort
Hi, On 13/07/16 17:43, Don Armstrong wrote: > On Wed, 13 Jul 2016, Sam Hartman wrote: >> However, here we're asked to give advice on whether something is >> source code. Is the question of what is the source code for a given >> package technical, and thus within our remit? > > I think that's a