Re: Removal request: madwifi, madwifi-tools

2008-09-29 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Saturday 27 September 2008 15:30, Julien BLACHE wrote: If they could finally allow Sam Leffler to release his version of the HAL, that'd be even better. I think it's the only HAL supporting the AR5008 family. FWIW, Felix's hal is based on Sams and therefore supports the same

Re: Removal request: madwifi, madwifi-tools

2008-09-27 Thread Kel Modderman
On Saturday 27 September 2008 08:13:15 Julien BLACHE wrote: Kel Modderman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, * we must trust a binary HAL that was only announced to the public on the 16th of September 2008 by Scott Raynel, who announced it because Felix couldn't really be bothered.

Re: Removal request: madwifi, madwifi-tools

2008-09-27 Thread Julien BLACHE
Kel Modderman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Yeah, and a lot of stuff is happening off the public lists too, which brought me here to declare Madwifi unfit for a long term release, as I believe the driver is on the brink of being abandoned upstream. It's been more or less that way for at least

Re: Removal request: madwifi, madwifi-tools

2008-09-26 Thread Julien BLACHE
Kel Modderman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, * we must trust a binary HAL that was only announced to the public on the 16th of September 2008 by Scott Raynel, who announced it because Felix couldn't really be bothered. For your information, Atheros have just released their HAL under the

Re: Removal request: madwifi, madwifi-tools

2008-09-18 Thread Kel Modderman
On Wednesday 17 September 2008 22:21:38 Holger Levsen wrote: Hi, On Wednesday 17 September 2008 02:08, Kel Modderman wrote: Why BCC him and not CC? Because I think it would be impolite, esp. because usually people dont remove cc:s when they are not useful anymore. I gave him the link

Re: Removal request: madwifi, madwifi-tools

2008-09-18 Thread Santiago Garcia Mantinan
Hi! Sorry to jump on the discussion so late, I only realised about the discusion today when Kel pointed me to it after I had filled more info on bug #492251 because of the bad state current package is on. I see two issues here: - Maintainability of the packages we ship with (even this is not

Re: Removal request: madwifi, madwifi-tools

2008-09-18 Thread Kel Modderman
Hi Felix, On Thursday 18 September 2008 02:27:04 Felix Fietkau wrote: Kel Modderman kel at otaku42.de writes: the following facts are true (correct me if wrong): * we must revert to a snapshot of madwifi.org trunk at svn revsion 3314, madwifi.org trunk is at revision 3856, the package

Re: Removal request: madwifi, madwifi-tools

2008-09-17 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Wednesday 17 September 2008 02:08, Kel Modderman wrote: Why BCC him and not CC? Because I think it would be impolite, esp. because usually people dont remove cc:s when they are not useful anymore. I gave him the link to the web archive, so he can easily followup. This is annoying as

Re: Removal request: madwifi, madwifi-tools

2008-09-17 Thread Kel Modderman
Hi Holger, On Wednesday 17 September 2008 22:21:38 Holger Levsen wrote: This is annoying as he does not see my responses. I also do not think he holds any relevance to this discussion, I am sure he could not give two hoots what decisions Debian is making, he is a very busy person.

Re: Removal request: madwifi, madwifi-tools

2008-09-17 Thread Felix Fietkau
Kel Modderman kel at otaku42.de writes: the following facts are true (correct me if wrong): * we must revert to a snapshot of madwifi.org trunk at svn revsion 3314, madwifi.org trunk is at revision 3856, the package in Lenny is based on a branch of revision 3772. This means discarding a

Re: Removal request: madwifi, madwifi-tools

2008-09-17 Thread Glenn Saberton
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I tend to agree with Kel here. Even as a eee user, if the current package that is in the archive is known to be broken, and he, as the main maintainer of the package wants to downgrade it, or remove it, I don't see why not. Keeping it in the archive

Re: Removal request: madwifi, madwifi-tools

2008-09-16 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, I wondered on IRC today if I should suggest to update the madwifi package to the a new upstream version... Luk then asked me to send something to the list, so here is something. On August 29th 2008 a new hal was released (a hal is the binary blob which controls low level functions on

Re: Removal request: madwifi, madwifi-tools

2008-09-16 Thread Kel Modderman
Hi Holger, On Wednesday 17 September 2008 08:23:56 Holger Levsen wrote: snip If the release team would allow this route, we'd need to discuss who will do the work (Felix, it would be great if you could release a tarball ;-), but that only makes sense, if you don't vote for the removal

Re: Removal request: madwifi, madwifi-tools

2008-09-16 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Kel, (mostly) just commenting on two aspects here, bcc:ing Felix again, so he can comment on the technical details. On Wednesday 17 September 2008 00:45, Kel Modderman wrote: If forced between maintaining an awful snapshot of dead end crap for the lifetime of Lenny just because I am not

Re: Removal request: madwifi, madwifi-tools

2008-09-16 Thread Kel Modderman
Hi Holger, Why BCC him and not CC? This is annoying as he does not see my responses. I also do not think he holds any relevance to this discussion, I am sure he could not give two hoots what decisions Debian is making, he is a very busy person. On Wednesday 17 September 2008 09:54:32 Holger