Quoting Steve Langasek (vor...@debian.org):
On the other hand, is it really necessary a new group? Can't adm or
operator
be overloaded with this new functionality? (think Ockham's razor).
No. Both of those groups also have other meanings.
How about the root group?
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On 20/10/2010 07:12, Christian PERRIER wrote:
Quoting Steve Langasek (vor...@debian.org):
On the other hand, is it really necessary a new group? Can't adm or
operator
be overloaded with this new functionality? (think Ockham's razor).
No. Both of those groups
[Michael Biebl]
One suggestion is to use group admin. Ubuntu has been using that
group for exactly the purpose what we are going for and I think it
is a pretty adequate name.
The Ubuntu use of the group 'admin' have caused some problems here at
the university where I work on integrating Ubuntu
On 20/10/2010 11:18, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
So I would suggest to use a name that is more likely to be unique.
unique wrt. what? admin seems unique since not used in Debian yet.
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On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 8:16 AM, Mehdi Dogguy me...@dogguy.org wrote:
On 20/10/2010 11:18, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
So I would suggest to use a name that is more likely to be unique.
unique wrt. what? admin seems unique since not used in Debian yet.
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Le mardi 19 octobre 2010 à 00:38 +0200, Michael Biebl a écrit :
1/ The sudo group in previous Debian releases had a different meaning: Members
of groups sudo could run sudo without needing a password.
Did it exist in previous releases? I don’t recall seeing it in sudoers.
2/ Using the name
Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org writes:
Le mardi 19 octobre 2010 à 00:38 +0200, Michael Biebl a écrit :
1/ The sudo group in previous Debian releases had a different
meaning: Members of groups sudo could run sudo without needing a
password.
Did it exist in previous releases? I don’t
On 19.10.2010 08:15, Josselin Mouette wrote:
Le mardi 19 octobre 2010 à 00:38 +0200, Michael Biebl a écrit :
1/ The sudo group in previous Debian releases had a different meaning:
Members
of groups sudo could run sudo without needing a password.
Did it exist in previous releases? I don’t
hi,
2010/10/19 Michael Biebl bi...@debian.org:
Hi,
Bdale went ahead and added the following to /etc/sudoers:
# Allow members of group sudo to not need a password
# (Note that later entries override this, so you might need to move
# it further down)
%sudo ALL=(ALL) ALL
First of all: YES!
Hi, Josselin:
On Tuesday 19 October 2010 08:15:56 Josselin Mouette wrote:
[...]
Le mardi 19 octobre 2010 à 02:12 +0200, Jesús M. Navarro a écrit :
What about the old-fashioned wheel group[1]?
This would be an even worse disaster than “admin”, for similar reasons.
Users of the “wheel” group
Le mardi 19 octobre 2010 à 09:58 +0100, Philip Hands a écrit :
For PolicyKit, I can now simply ship a file, say
/etc/polkit-1/localauthority.conf.d/51-debian-sudo.conf which contains:
[Configuration]
AdminIdentities=unix-group:sudo
I would object to 'sudo' being a group of people
On Tue, 19 Oct 2010 00:38:41 +0200, Michael Biebl bi...@debian.org wrote:
Bdale went ahead and added the following to /etc/sudoers:
# Allow members of group sudo to not need a password
# (Note that later entries override this, so you might need to move
# it further down)
%sudo ALL=(ALL)
Am Dienstag, den 19.10.2010, 08:15 +0200 schrieb Josselin Mouette:
Le mardi 19 octobre 2010 à 00:38 +0200, Michael Biebl a écrit :
-Snipp-
So, I'm wondering if we shouldn't pick a more neutral name without a
previous
history in Debian.
One suggestion is to use group admin. Ubuntu has
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 09:48:58AM +0200, Jesús M. Navarro wrote:
On Tuesday 19 October 2010 08:15:56 Josselin Mouette wrote:
[...]
Le mardi 19 octobre 2010 à 02:12 +0200, Jesús M. Navarro a écrit :
What about the old-fashioned wheel group[1]?
This would be an even worse disaster than
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 09:48:58AM +0200, Jesús M. Navarro wrote:
[...]
On the other hand, is it really necessary a new group? Can't adm
or operator be overloaded with this new functionality? (think
Ockham's razor).
Maybe similarly overloaded, but I've used the built-in staff group
for this
Hi,
as some of you might know, the debian installer allows to install a system with
a disabled root account, i.e. there is no root password set for root.
In lenny, iirc, this was done via d-i pre-seeding, in squeeze it is as simple as
leaving the root password prompt empty.
The lenny installer
Hi, Michael:
On Tuesday 19 October 2010 00:38:41 Michael Biebl wrote:
Hi,
[...]
The idea is, to have a distinct group. Members of that group have
administrative privileges using sudo and PolicKit.
[...]
While I think the idea of using a distinct group for users with
administrative
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