Re: Update on upload of GNOME 2.6 to unstable status

2004-05-20 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, May 18, 2004 at 05:39:20PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: (Hrm, mutt's [L]ist-reply is dropping -gtk-gnome, suck) On Tue, May 18, 2004 at 12:01:12AM +0200, Sebastien Bacher wrote: Le lun, 17/05/2004 ? 18:22 +1000, Anthony Towns a ?crit : alpha, hppa and s390 should be there too.

Re: Update on upload of GNOME 2.6 to unstable status

2004-05-20 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, May 18, 2004 at 05:39:20PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: We have not changed gnome2.4 packages for weeks/months, if you fear for sarge we just need to put a RC bug on atk/glib/gtk/pango from Gnome2.6 in unstable. There's no just about that. Doing that really does screw things up

Re: Update on upload of GNOME 2.6 to unstable status

2004-05-20 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, May 20, 2004 at 12:49:33PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: On Tue, May 18, 2004 at 05:39:20PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: We have not changed gnome2.4 packages for weeks/months, if you fear for sarge we just need to put a RC bug on atk/glib/gtk/pango from Gnome2.6 in unstable.

Re: Update on upload of GNOME 2.6 to unstable status

2004-05-20 Thread Sven Luther
On Thu, May 20, 2004 at 11:48:01AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: On Thu, May 20, 2004 at 12:49:33PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: On Tue, May 18, 2004 at 05:39:20PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: We have not changed gnome2.4 packages for weeks/months, if you fear for sarge we just need to put a

Re: Update on upload of GNOME 2.6 to unstable status

2004-05-20 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, May 20, 2004 at 01:04:37PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: On Thu, May 20, 2004 at 11:48:01AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: That's actually exactly the current state. However, it's more difficult to get user testing of t-p-u uploads before they get into testing, so it's not really something

Re: Update on upload of GNOME 2.6 to unstable status

2004-05-20 Thread Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt
Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Now, there still remains the problem of loads of other non-gnome packages that needs to be rebuilt against gnome 2.6, WTF? They don't need to be rebuilt. Marc -- $_=')(hBCdzVnS})3..0}_$;//::niam/s~=)]3[))_$(rellac(=_$({pam(esrever })e$.)4/3*

Re: Update on upload of GNOME 2.6 to unstable status

2004-05-20 Thread Sven Luther
On Thu, May 20, 2004 at 12:09:54PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: On Thu, May 20, 2004 at 01:04:37PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: On Thu, May 20, 2004 at 11:48:01AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: That's actually exactly the current state. However, it's more difficult to get user testing of t-p-u

Re: Update on upload of GNOME 2.6 to unstable status

2004-05-20 Thread Anthony Towns
On Wed, May 19, 2004 at 10:38:03AM +0200, Sebastien Bacher wrote: Rene Engelhard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And what is with external (non-GNOME) stuff depending on gtk/atk/etc.? It would be held up then regardless of whether they fix important or even RC bugs... Don't worry we are not

Re: Update on upload of GNOME 2.6 to unstable status

2004-05-20 Thread Anthony Towns
On Thu, May 20, 2004 at 01:04:37PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: Ah, last we tried this in february or so, testing-proposed-update was not being autobuilt, and the result was that it was not usable for debian-installer, but then maybe it has changed since then ? There were probably problems

Re: Update on upload of GNOME 2.6 to unstable status

2004-05-20 Thread Anthony Towns
On Thu, May 20, 2004 at 12:47:33PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: That said, making sure everything in experimental is in sync for all arches uploaded there would make things easier. Gah! A pox on all your foreign speaking houses! You don't need to get everything in experimental in sync. Just make

Re: Update on upload of GNOME 2.6 to unstable status

2004-05-20 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Thu, May 20, 2004 at 01:04:37PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: Ah, last we tried this in february or so, testing-proposed-update was not being autobuilt, It is (or, at least, can be made to easily). The wanna-build db is running, and works. One of my buildd machines has it configured (albeit at

Re: Update on upload of GNOME 2.6 to unstable status

2004-05-19 Thread Rene Engelhard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Sebastien Bacher wrote: It seems pretty simple to me. You're saying it's in a state such that it can replace gnome 2.4, which has already gone from unstable to testing. There is, however, no proof of that, and thus there's risk of something

Re: Update on upload of GNOME 2.6 to unstable status

2004-05-19 Thread Sebastien Bacher
Rene Engelhard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And what is with external (non-GNOME) stuff depending on gtk/atk/etc.? It would be held up then regardless of whether they fix important or even RC bugs... Hi, Don't worry we are not going in this way. Cheers, Sebastien Bacher

Re: Update on upload of GNOME 2.6 to unstable status

2004-05-18 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2004-05-16 Sebastien Bacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] BTW any chance to speed up new libcupsys2 acceptation in experimental ? The name has changed and it's in NEW ... having it accepted now would be great since we are waiting on it for the last changes. [...] Looks like somebody

Re: Update on upload of GNOME 2.6 to unstable status

2004-05-18 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2004-05-18 Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, May 15, 2004 at 06:31:25PM +0200, Sebastien Bacher wrote: [...] Does gnutls10 include versioned symbols? [...] gnutls10 (and gnutls7) do include versioned symbols. cu andreas -- See, I told you they'd listen to

Re: Update on upload of GNOME 2.6 to unstable status

2004-05-18 Thread Anthony Towns
(Hrm, mutt's [L]ist-reply is dropping -gtk-gnome, suck) On Tue, May 18, 2004 at 12:01:12AM +0200, Sebastien Bacher wrote: Le lun, 17/05/2004 ? 18:22 +1000, Anthony Towns a ?crit : alpha, hppa and s390 should be there too. Skipping out m68k might be okay, but you should certainly ask and try

Re: Update on upload of GNOME 2.6 to unstable status

2004-05-18 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Tue, May 18, 2004 at 05:39:20PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: If you get to the point where almost everything's done, and the remaining 1% is impossible for various reasons, come back and explain why each particular remaining issue (missing builds, unfixed RC bugs) can't be done (m68k would

Re: Update on upload of GNOME 2.6 to unstable status

2004-05-18 Thread Sebastien Bacher
Wouter Verhelst [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: soonishly; any pointers to a list of packages to be built, ordered by dependency, would be great. Hi, There is a list here (be carefull some packages name may have a type (ie a 2 missing or some stuffs like that):

Re: Update on upload of GNOME 2.6 to unstable status

2004-05-18 Thread Anthony Towns
On Tue, May 18, 2004 at 12:59:34PM +0200, Sebastien Bacher wrote: Gnome is usually really good on the portability plan (no problem with 2.2, 2.4), [...] Sure. This isn't intended as a slight against you guys, or to imply you don't do good work. It has built on 7 architectures without problems

Re: Update on upload of GNOME 2.6 to unstable status

2004-05-17 Thread Anthony Towns
[adding -gtk-gnome back in] On Sun, May 16, 2004 at 11:23:28PM +0200, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote: Assembling GNOME 2.6 in experimental is more work than doing it in unstable. Yes, this is absolutely true. Hopefully it won't remain true forever, but be that as it may: large updates should be

Re: Update on upload of GNOME 2.6 to unstable status

2004-05-17 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sun, May 16, 2004 at 06:38:32PM +0200, Sebastien Bacher wrote: You're still missing alpha, hppa, sparc, mipsel, s390 and m68k... Ok, we can get mipsel and sparc too, is that enough ? alpha, hppa and s390 should be there too. Skipping out m68k might be okay, but you should certainly ask and

Re: Update on upload of GNOME 2.6 to unstable status

2004-05-17 Thread Sebastien Bacher
Le lun, 17/05/2004 à 18:22 +1000, Anthony Towns a écrit : alpha, hppa and s390 should be there too. Skipping out m68k might be okay, but you should certainly ask and try to get the core libraries built there too. Ok, let me summarize, you want a build on all architectures and full tests with

Re: Update on upload of GNOME 2.6 to unstable status

2004-05-17 Thread Joe Drew
On Mon, 2004-05-17 at 18:01, Sebastien Bacher wrote: Ok, let me summarize, you want a build on all architectures and full tests with no bugs. Basically you are asking for the unstable - testing conditions to upload something in unstable ... why ? It seems pretty simple to me. You're saying

Re: Update on upload of GNOME 2.6 to unstable status

2004-05-17 Thread Sebastien Bacher
Le lun, 17/05/2004 à 18:39 -0400, Joe Drew a écrit : It seems pretty simple to me. You're saying it's in a state such that it can replace gnome 2.4, which has already gone from unstable to testing. There is, however, no proof of that, and thus there's risk of something breaking. Please read

Re: Update on upload of GNOME 2.6 to unstable status

2004-05-17 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, May 15, 2004 at 06:31:25PM +0200, Sebastien Bacher wrote: * Gnutls transition: Gnome2.6 packages are linked with gnutls10. Since libgnomeprint use libcupsys2, we need to transition libcupsys2 from gnutls7 to gnutls10 (API change). The proper way to do this is to rename the package to

Re: Update on upload of GNOME 2.6 to unstable status

2004-05-16 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sat, May 15, 2004 at 06:31:25PM +0200, Sebastien Bacher wrote: * Architectures: A full Gnome2.6 is built and available in experimental for these archs: - i386 - ppc - mips - arm - ia64 You're still missing alpha, hppa, sparc, mipsel, s390 and m68k... 2/ - Upload new

Re: Update on upload of GNOME 2.6 to unstable status

2004-05-16 Thread Sebastien Bacher
You're still missing alpha, hppa, sparc, mipsel, s390 and m68k... Ok, we can get mipsel and sparc too, is that enough ? It's not reasonable to ask a full build of gnome2.6 on the 11 archs. Having packages ok on i386 is a full time job, there are uploads almost every day ... doing the work of

Re: Update on upload of GNOME 2.6 to unstable status

2004-05-16 Thread Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt
Wouter Verhelst [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sun, May 16, 2004 at 06:35:40PM +0200, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote: To build the complete GNOME 2.6.{0,1}, you need root access to a chroot, What you don't ask, you don't get. I asked for a mips box and built all packages on it - once. as you

Update on upload of GNOME 2.6 to unstable status

2004-05-15 Thread Sebastien Bacher
Hi, The purpose of this mail is to ask the advice of the release team regarding the transition of Gnome 2.6 to unstable, given the progress the packages have made in the last few weeks. * Architectures: A full Gnome2.6 is built and available in experimental for these archs: - i386 - ppc - mips