Re: Bug#682719: Your gcl 2.6.7-107 upload
On Mon, 2012-10-08 at 19:22 +0200, Philipp Kern wrote: Camm, am Mon, Oct 08, 2012 at 12:02:52PM -0400 hast du folgendes geschrieben: Greetings! This was in line of addressing #682719. I was under the impression that the emacsen would cover the absence of emacs24. emacs24's forced in from unstable if no emacsen is installed yet. The bug you cited does talk about *build dependencies* and about putting it as a less-preferred build alternative (which is entirely bogus by itself, i.e. the bug report's resolution suggesting is *wrong*, because the buildd infrastructure will not consider such alternatives). In gcl you changed the binary package's *dependency* specification. Regarding the emacs23 | emacs24 dependency I thought emacs24 would enter testing. Obviously it did not make it in time. And the patch I submitted was for acl2, not gcl. Nevertheless, why build-depend on a non-existing package emacsen with emacs23 | emacsen? Additionally, it looks like emacs24 is not the default for unstable, why not? It should be for testing yes, but unstable? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-release-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1349726581.4330.23.camel@x60
Re: Bug#682719: Your gcl 2.6.7-107 upload
[recipient list trimmed, although it should probably be even smaller] On Mon, 2012-10-08 at 22:03 +0200, Svante Signell wrote: Nevertheless, why build-depend on a non-existing package emacsen with emacs23 | emacsen? It does exist, in exactly the same way that e.g. mail-transport-agent does. Additionally, it looks like emacs24 is not the default for unstable, why not? It should be for testing yes, but unstable? That's up to the emacs maintainer, you might want to ask them rather than us. From memory his plan was to keep 23 as the default in wheezy even if 24 had entered wheezy as it would be too late to transition all of the dependent packages; I assume the default wasn't changed in unstable so that packages didn't get blocked from migrating due to adding dependencies on emacs24. Regards, Adam -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-release-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1349727020.11774.32.ca...@jacala.jungle.funky-badger.org
Re: Bug#682719: Your gcl 2.6.7-107 upload
On Mon, Oct 08, 2012 at 10:03:01PM +0200, Svante Signell wrote: Regarding the emacs23 | emacs24 dependency I thought emacs24 would enter testing. Obviously it did not make it in time. And the patch I submitted was for acl2, not gcl. Nevertheless, why build-depend on a non-existing package emacsen with emacs23 | emacsen? Why build depend on emacs24 given that emacsen satisfies it if you install it locally? Our build infrastructure would not pick emacs24 with your proposal anyway because build depends after the first one are discarded. Your local build would also not pick it up because emacs23 is still in unstable. Additionally, it looks like emacs24 is not the default for unstable, why not? It should be for testing yes, but unstable? To avoid shoveling more stuff towards t-p-u without testing. Kind regards Philipp Kern signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Bug#682719: Your gcl 2.6.7-107 upload
On Mon, 2012-10-08 at 21:10 +0100, Adam D. Barratt wrote: [recipient list trimmed, although it should probably be even smaller] On Mon, 2012-10-08 at 22:03 +0200, Svante Signell wrote: Nevertheless, why build-depend on a non-existing package emacsen with emacs23 | emacsen? It does exist, in exactly the same way that e.g. mail-transport-agent apt-cache show emacsen N: Can't select versions from package 'emacsen' as it is purely virtual N: No packages found apt-cache showsrc emacsen W: Unable to locate package emacsen N: No packages found Same with mail-transport-agent, I am probably missing something. Where is it? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-release-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1349729976.4330.25.camel@x60
Re: Bug#682719: Your gcl 2.6.7-107 upload
On Mon, 2012-10-08 at 22:59 +0200, Svante Signell wrote: On Mon, 2012-10-08 at 21:10 +0100, Adam D. Barratt wrote: On Mon, 2012-10-08 at 22:03 +0200, Svante Signell wrote: Nevertheless, why build-depend on a non-existing package emacsen with emacs23 | emacsen? It does exist, in exactly the same way that e.g. mail-transport-agent apt-cache show emacsen N: Can't select versions from package 'emacsen' as it is purely virtual [...] Same with mail-transport-agent, I am probably missing something. Yes, you are. The wording of the error message should give you a clue. Regards, Adam -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-release-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1349730053.11774.34.ca...@jacala.jungle.funky-badger.org
Re: Bug#682719: Your gcl 2.6.7-107 upload
On Mon, 2012-10-08 at 22:00 +0100, Adam D. Barratt wrote: On Mon, 2012-10-08 at 22:59 +0200, Svante Signell wrote: On Mon, 2012-10-08 at 21:10 +0100, Adam D. Barratt wrote: On Mon, 2012-10-08 at 22:03 +0200, Svante Signell wrote: Nevertheless, why build-depend on a non-existing package emacsen with emacs23 | emacsen? It does exist, in exactly the same way that e.g. mail-transport-agent apt-cache show emacsen N: Can't select versions from package 'emacsen' as it is purely virtual [...] Same with mail-transport-agent, I am probably missing something. Yes, you are. The wording of the error message should give you a clue OK, I confess I'm stupid. can't select versions from package does mean nothing to me, unfortunately. Looks like I'm not debianised enough yet :( Even after using debian for some 10+ years! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-release-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1349731588.4330.36.camel@x60
Re: Bug#682719: Your gcl 2.6.7-107 upload
On Mon, 2012-10-08 at 23:26 +0200, Svante Signell wrote: On Mon, 2012-10-08 at 22:00 +0100, Adam D. Barratt wrote: On Mon, 2012-10-08 at 22:59 +0200, Svante Signell wrote: On Mon, 2012-10-08 at 21:10 +0100, Adam D. Barratt wrote: On Mon, 2012-10-08 at 22:03 +0200, Svante Signell wrote: Nevertheless, why build-depend on a non-existing package emacsen with emacs23 | emacsen? It does exist, in exactly the same way that e.g. mail-transport-agent apt-cache show emacsen N: Can't select versions from package 'emacsen' as it is purely virtual [...] Same with mail-transport-agent, I am probably missing something. Yes, you are. The wording of the error message should give you a clue OK, I confess I'm stupid. can't select versions from package does mean nothing to me, unfortunately. Looks like I'm not debianised enough yet :( Even after using debian for some 10+ years! Apparently my hint wasn't obvious enough - I was pushing you towards the word virtual. See http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-relationships.html#s-virtual and http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-customized-programs.html#s-mail-transport-agents , for example. Regards, Adam -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-release-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1349732055.11774.37.ca...@jacala.jungle.funky-badger.org
