Re: armel/armhf arch qualification for buster: call for DSA, Security, toolchain concernsj

2018-07-23 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Hi Roger!

On 07/23/2018 10:42 AM, Roger Shimizu wrote:
> I talked to a few people about keeping armel in buster, during 1st and
> 2nd day in debcamp.
> Seems the blocker is just the buildd server hardware, and memory size it has.

According to my colleague Alex Graf at SUSE, you can definitely build
ARMv7 on arm64 using chroots. The only problem with chroots is that
"uname -a" shows "armv8" which some userspace applications are stumbling
over.

openSUSE/SLE builds armv7 packages in OBS/IBS using a fully emulated system
using KVM.

As for the hardware, you should watch out for hardware with ARM Cortex Cores.
Alternatively, X-Gene 1. ThunderX, ThunderX2 and Centriq are definitely not
supported.

Adrian

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Re: armel/armhf arch qualification for buster: call for DSA, Security, toolchain concernsj

2018-07-23 Thread Roger Shimizu
Dear armel/armhf shakeholders,

I talked to a few people about keeping armel in buster, during 1st and
2nd day in debcamp.
Seems the blocker is just the buildd server hardware, and memory size it has.

On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 7:04 PM, W. Martin Borgert  wrote:
>
> Quoting Uwe Kleine-König :
>>
>> If the concerns are mostly about the hardware not being rackable, there
>> is a rackable NAS by Netgear:
>>
>> 
>> https://www.netgear.com/business/products/storage/readynas/RN2120.aspx#tab-techspecs
>
> This seems to be out of stock and discontinued, unfortunately.

This is still available in amazon:
- https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00MQK14KC

> Anyway, I'm relatively sure, that I can convince my boss to sponsor/donate
> both armel and armhf hardware for Debian, if that is of any help. Or arm64
> used in "32 bits mode".

I think DSA team prefers armel or armhf real hardware (not just
developing boards).
So it'll be super great if you (or your boss) can kindly sponsor some
armel/armhf hardwares that support to install 4GB memory.

Thanks!

Cheers,
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