Re: python-cryptography vs. stainless steel ports

2024-03-14 Thread Helge Deller

On 3/14/24 06:53, Thorsten Glaser wrote:

Dixi quod…


Is there a chance your team could fork the old python-cryptography
source package (3.4.8-2) and do something like:


Apparently, pyopenssl needs to also be forked as it wraps the above
and, between 21.0.0-1 and 22.1.0-1, it began requiring the rust
version of python-cryptography ☹


And gstreamer1.0 seems to depend on rust as well, which blocks
glade and as such some gnome apps:
https://buildd.debian.org/status/package.php?p=gstreamer1.0=sid

Helge



Re: How to get d-i udeb packages for hppa-only back into unstable?

2014-05-02 Thread Helge Deller
On 05/02/2014 09:10 PM, Thorsten Glaser wrote:
 Helge Deller dixit:
 Can such a package be uploaded to debian master ftp if I go through
 the standard ITP process?
 
 No.

Ok, I assumed that.
 
 If not, is there a way to make this happen on debian-ports somehow? 
 
 Not in unstable, only in unreleased. We have the same problem
 on m68k with e.g. bootloader packages.

Yes, it's the bootloader packages on hppa too.

 This needs to be addressed on d-i side; we need better support
 for the dpo 'unreleased' suite there.

Sounds not very simple or clean.
How did you solved that on m68k then?

The only simple way I see is then to set up an own repository (cloned from 
debian-ports), add the packages there and then instruct the installer to load 
the installation packages from there. This is at least how I got it to work 
sucessfully once.

Alternatively one could play around with preseeding?

Helge


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Re: How to get a new palo source package into unstable?

2014-01-12 Thread Helge Deller
Hi Adrian,

On 01/12/2014 05:32 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
 On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 10:37:52PM +0100, Helge Deller wrote:
 as you might have noticed, we did huge progress on the HPPA (PA-RISC) port:
 http://buildd.debian-ports.org/stats/
 
 Indeed. Congratulations on that! I'm glad to see the HPPA port coming
 back to life. I'd love to test it myself, but the only PA-RISC machine
 that I currently know of which is in my vicinity is located inside a
 laboratory at my physics department and it's still running HP-UX.
 Might be that it gets scrapped soon and replaced with something more
 fancy so that I can get hold of it, who knows ;).

Good thing is, that those machines got pretty cheap now.
A Dualcore-C8000 workstation is available on ebay for  100 EUR.

 In order to be able to boot parisc machines, the hppa port needs the palo 
 debian package.
 PALO is the PA-RISC boot loader and a boot-loader-image generator, 
 similar to 
 lilo on i386 or silo on sparc.
 
 Or aboot on the Alpha machines.
 
 I've continued to maintain and further develop palo.
 The new palo git repository is now at:
 git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/deller/palo.git
 and the source should compile and run on all plattforms.
 A simple checkout and dpkg-buildpackage should work.
 
 Thank you very much for doing this (and the hard work of bringing the
 buildds back to life). Even though I currently don't own a PA-RISC
 machine, I'm very glad that someone took care of it, such that owners
 of these machines can still use it with a current Debian release.
 
 Since I'm not a debian-developer, I don't know how to get this package into 
 debian unstable again.
 What is the usual process to get a new/old package back into debian 
 unstable? 
 Maybe someone of you who has a debian developer rights is willing to upload 
 the 
 source package?
 
 I'm a Debian Developer with full upload permissions to the archive and
 would absolutely love to help you get the boot loader (and any other
 possibly necessary packages) back into Debian.

Thanks!
AFAIK the bootloader is the only package which is parisc specific.

 The best is to have the package(s) uploaded to Debian Mentors [1] so I
 can grab them from there and review them, send you suggestions on
 improving them and finally upload them.

I uploaded it, and CC'ed you on the request.
http://mentors.debian.net/package/palo
The info at top of the website is the latest package with most warnings fixed.
It would be nice if you could help me (off-list) further on that.

 Plus, it would be nice to have access to a PA-RISC machine myself so I
 can perform a test build and inspect the finished package. Would that
 be possible?

Sure, I'll send you login details off-list.
If other people here on the list want access, please let me know.
 
 PS: I have noticed that the HPPA builds never include the build log,
 for example radeontop [2]. Would it be possible to have these
 enabled as well, so we can easily find out what went wrong when a
 build failed?

We had problems with sending mails from the buildds when I started the buildds 
mid december.
Currently we have 5 buildds running:
http://unstable.buildd.net/index-hppa.html
Since around 2-3 weeks, all buildds except mx3210 do send build logs.

I can reschedule a rebuild of radeontop for you, or you can just build it
yourself on the machine for which I send you a login. Just let me know.

Thanks!
Helge


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How to get a new palo source package into unstable?

2014-01-11 Thread Helge Deller
Hello everyone,

as you might have noticed, we did huge progress on the HPPA (PA-RISC) port:
http://buildd.debian-ports.org/stats/

In order to be able to boot parisc machines, the hppa port needs the palo 
debian package.
PALO is the PA-RISC boot loader and a boot-loader-image generator, similar 
to 
lilo on i386 or silo on sparc.

palo has been part of the debian repository when parisc was still a 
fully-supported 
debian architecture, but was dropped when debian 6.0 was released.

I've continued to maintain and further develop palo.
The new palo git repository is now at:
git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/deller/palo.git
and the source should compile and run on all plattforms.
A simple checkout and dpkg-buildpackage should work.

Since I'm not a debian-developer, I don't know how to get this package into 
debian unstable again.
What is the usual process to get a new/old package back into debian unstable? 
Maybe someone of you who has a debian developer rights is willing to upload the 
source package?

Any help would be great!

Thanks,
Helge Deller


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Re: debian-ports.org getting relatively unstable (hppa)

2013-12-15 Thread Helge Deller
On 12/15/2013 06:32 AM, Dave Land wrote:
 Not sure what's up at debian-ports.org, but I've been trying to 
 debootstrap 2 different HPPA machines for the last couple days and 
 have been getting a variety of errors (size mismatches, files not 
 found when they were there 20 minutes before, etc. etc.) Somebody may
 want to look into this before it gets out of hand. Thanks! :)

I maybe should add some more background here, and maybe someone
here on the list might have an idea on how to proceed.

Background is, that Dave and myself have binmnu-uploaded the necessary
packages for hppa so that debootstrap worked. Then we proceeded with the 
necessary
packages for sbuild and schroot, so that I now have a buildd installed
which should be able to start building packages. I haven't turned it
on yet though for the reasons which I explain in a few seconds...  

In the meantime we have of course uploaded a few more packages which
now currently break debootstrap. This is fixable manually, but I instead
of uploading packages manually now, I would prefer to get the buildd
going instead... So, Dave Land, please wait a little bit...

Now to the reasons why I didn't turned on the buildd yet:
We noticed, that when we manually binmnu-upload packages, which are
already in the *same version* on debian-ports, then debian-ports ACCEPT 
those packages, but if we then try to apt-get-update those later on, this leads
to a size mismatch error. I do have the feeling, that this is a 
problem on debian-ports. I noticed for example that reprepro usually
doesn't accept packages of the same version which doesn't seem to be
the case on debian-ports.
So, I'm anxious, that if I start the buildd, it will happily build and upload 
packages
which we already uploaded to debian-ports. If this happens we will get more
size-mismatch errors.

A trivial example:
On machine buildd.debian-ports.org I run:
deller@leda:~$ wb info hello . hppa
* hello/hppa
  | hello:
  |   Package : hello
  |   Version : 2.8-4
  |   State   : Needs-Build
  |   Section : devel
  |   Priority: source
  |   Previous-State  : 
  |   State-Change: 2013-02-18 00:03:36.782007
  |   CalculatedPri   : 52
  |   component   : main
  |   Distribution: sid
  |   Notes   : out-of-date
  |   State-Days  : 300
  |   State-Time  : 25958430

So, the package hello would need a rebuild according to the wanna-build 
database,
and that would wb probably tell my buildd who then would start 
building/uploading it.
But on http://ftp.debian-ports.org/debian/pool-hppa/main/h/hello/ you can
see, that the hello-package is already uploaded at version 2.8-4
So, if my buildd now uploads the newly created hello package, I'm sure
we will run again into the size-mismatch problem.

Now, Aurelien mentioned last week to me, that this size-mismatch error 
might be because of the apt-ftparchive cache might have been corrupted for 
hppa.
I'm not 100% sure about that.

My question here on the list would be, if you (other arch-porters) do have an 
idea
on how I should proceed.
Best solution would probably be, if the wanna-build database rescans what's in
the archive already. Is this possible?
Or, should I just start the buildd and see what's happening? If we then get
the size-mismatch errors there is lot of manual work to fix it (unless 
resetting the
apt-ftparchive on debian-ports would solve this).
Any other ideas?

Helge


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Re: debian-ports.org getting relatively unstable (hppa)

2013-12-15 Thread Helge Deller
Hello Aurelien,

On 12/15/2013 09:03 PM, Aurelien Jarno wrote:
 On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 11:54:43AM +0100, Helge Deller wrote:
 On 12/15/2013 06:32 AM, Dave Land wrote:
 Not sure what's up at debian-ports.org, but I've been trying to 
 debootstrap 2 different HPPA machines for the last couple days and 
 have been getting a variety of errors (size mismatches, files not 
 found when they were there 20 minutes before, etc. etc.) Somebody may
 want to look into this before it gets out of hand. Thanks! :)

 I maybe should add some more background here, and maybe someone
 here on the list might have an idea on how to proceed.

 Background is, that Dave and myself have binmnu-uploaded the necessary
 packages for hppa so that debootstrap worked. Then we proceeded with the 
 necessary
 packages for sbuild and schroot, so that I now have a buildd installed
 which should be able to start building packages. I haven't turned it
 on yet though for the reasons which I explain in a few seconds...  

 In the meantime we have of course uploaded a few more packages which
 now currently break debootstrap. This is fixable manually, but I instead
 of uploading packages manually now, I would prefer to get the buildd
 going instead... So, Dave Land, please wait a little bit...

 Now to the reasons why I didn't turned on the buildd yet:
 We noticed, that when we manually binmnu-upload packages, which are
 already in the *same version* on debian-ports, then debian-ports ACCEPT 
 those packages, but if we then try to apt-get-update those later on, this 
 leads
 to a size mismatch error. I do have the feeling, that this is a 
 problem on debian-ports. I noticed for example that reprepro usually
 doesn't accept packages of the same version which doesn't seem to be
 the case on debian-ports.
 
 This is indeed the case, apt-fptarchive keep the checksums corresponding
 to first package. That said it hasn't really caused any problem so far.
 
 So, I'm anxious, that if I start the buildd, it will happily build and 
 upload packages
 which we already uploaded to debian-ports. If this happens we will get more
 size-mismatch errors.
 
 Well if you leave the build daemons handling the uploads, they will not
 build and upload the same package again, and the problem won't happen.

Ok, so we should enable the buildd as soon as possble.
 
 A trivial example:
 On machine buildd.debian-ports.org I run:
 deller@leda:~$ wb info hello . hppa
 * hello/hppa
   | hello:
   |   Package : hello
   |   Version : 2.8-4
   |   State   : Needs-Build
   |   Section : devel
   |   Priority: source
   |   Previous-State  : 
   |   State-Change: 2013-02-18 00:03:36.782007
   |   CalculatedPri   : 52
   |   component   : main
   |   Distribution: sid
   |   Notes   : out-of-date
   |   State-Days  : 300
   |   State-Time  : 25958430

 So, the package hello would need a rebuild according to the wanna-build 
 database,
 and that would wb probably tell my buildd who then would start 
 building/uploading it.
 But on http://ftp.debian-ports.org/debian/pool-hppa/main/h/hello/ you can
 see, that the hello-package is already uploaded at version 2.8-4
 So, if my buildd now uploads the newly created hello package, I'm sure
 we will run again into the size-mismatch problem.
 
 The wanna-build database is not up to date on hppa. I have disabled it
 to save some very precious cpu cycles given there are no buildds on hppa
 yet.

Can you the please start it now again?
This would help me to see what's missing.
 
 Now, Aurelien mentioned last week to me, that this size-mismatch error 
 might be because of the apt-ftparchive cache might have been corrupted for 
 hppa.
 I'm not 100% sure about that.
 
 Ok I wasn't aware the same package have been uploaded multiple time, so
 the corruption comes clearly from there.
 
 My question here on the list would be, if you (other arch-porters) do have 
 an idea
 on how I should proceed.
 
 I would say stop doing manual upload and start the build daemons.

Will do.
That was even the plan - just upload enough that debootstrap/sbuild/schroot is 
installable which it is now.
 
 Best solution would probably be, if the wanna-build database rescans what's 
 in
 the archive already. Is this possible?
 
 Yes, I can re-enable the hppa wanna-build database if it is actually
 useful.

Yes, please, turn it on now.
I will send you the hppa buildd gpg/ssh details (as mentioned in your other 
mail to me) in a few moments.

 Or, should I just start the buildd and see what's happening? If we then get
 the size-mismatch errors there is lot of manual work to fix it (unless 
 resetting the
 apt-ftparchive on debian-ports would solve this).
 
 We can rebuild the apt-ftparchive database at some point.

Thanks,
Helge


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Re: Bug#730258: please add arch-specific BTS tags

2013-11-23 Thread Helge Deller
On 11/24/2013 12:21 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
 On 11/23/2013 11:51 PM, Helge Deller wrote:
 Please add hppa
 
 Assuming that you are one of the hppa guys, how is the port doing? Any
 chance that the buildds will be up and running again anytime soon?

Yes, think so.
I'm working on that just right now...

Helge


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Re: Roll call for porters of architectures in sid and testing

2013-09-05 Thread Helge Deller
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Hello,

I am not currently a porter but I would like to be one for the
architecture parisc/hppa.

I currently have lots of parisc hardware (5 workstations and 4 servers), 
all currently running debian unstable from our own debian repository
at www.parisc-linux.org.

My involvement for debian-parisc so far:
- - I was one of the initiators of parisc-linux port back in 1999.
- - I have continuous worked on the ports since then.
- - I'm currently one of the two official linux kernel maintainers for
  the parisc port at kernel.org.
- - I've fixed quite some debian bugs reported for parisc in the past,
  including locking functions in gcc, KDE fixes, udev fixes and many more.
- - I do have a strong linux developer background (C/C++, Assembler) and 
  was formerly a developer at a major linux distributor. 
- - I'm maintaining the parisc-linux website and wikis. 

I am not a DD/DM but would like to become one.

At last, I would be happy if parisc could become again a supported
platform in the debian-ports repositories for the lifetime of Jessie.

parisc was dropped with debian squeeze, because there were quite some
stability issues with the Linux kernel at that time. Currently, 
upstream kernel 3.10 (stable) and kernel 3.11 do work reliable on all
major machines.  

 -- Helge Deller


On 09/01/2013 09:33 AM, Niels Thykier wrote:
 Hi,
 
 As we announced in [LAST-BITS], we would like to get a better idea of
 that status of the ports, to make an informed decision about which
 port can be released with jessie. One of the steps is to get an
 overview of which of the porters are (still) active for each
 port. Once the results from the role-call are in, we will request
 other information about the status of the ports. In the meantime, feel
 free to update and collect info about the ports in the Debian wiki[WIKI].
 
 If you are (or intend to become) an active porter for the lifetime of
 jessie, then please send a signed email explaining your involvement in
 the port to the Release Team debian-rele...@lists.debian.org before
 1st of October 2013. Please explain the level of your involvement in
 the port.
 
 Feel free to use the following template as your reply:
 
 
   Hi,
   
   I am an active porter for the following architectures and I intend
   to continue this for the lifetime of the jessie release:
 
   For ARCH, I
   - test (most|all) packages on this architecture
   - fix toolchain issues
   - triage arch-specific bugs
   - fix arch-related bugs
   - maintain buildds
   - ...
   
   I am a DD|I am a DM|I am not a DD/DM
   
   YOUR NAME
 
 
 Niels, on behalf of the release team
 
 [LAST-BITS] 
 http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2013/08/msg6.html
 
 [WIKI] https://wiki.debian.org/ArchiveQualification/Jessie
 
 
 

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